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Old 11-17-2009, 12:37 PM   #50
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For the record, I'm not upset about two Mushroom People being playable in the game. I'm just trying to set you people straight about who's Toad and who isn't.

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Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds View Post
No, they weren't (there, arguably, wasn't Toad back then). Point being, they used the same sprite, yet were all considered different persons. There weren't any different coloured Toads, or Mushroom People, back then. There wasn't a specific way to say, "THAT'S the REAL Toad!" as he would've been indistinguishable from the other known Mushroom People. See what I mean?
You're right, there was no "Toad" in Super Mario Bros. The character called Toad didn't appear until SMB 2, which is what I already said.

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And after all that, the colours are on their hat and shirt. The "real" Toad might change what colour hat he wears sometimes. I mean, in the opening scene of NSMBW, there are two red Toads at the party (they fire the new items out of the cannon). Is one of those the "real" Toad, and one a filthy fraud? Were all his clothes in the wash, so he borrowed some of the "real" Toad's clothes for the party? XD
In Super Mario RPG, there are a ton of Mushroom People with red spots and blue vests, but only one of them is identified specifically as Toad. This shows that there can be many Mushroom People who look identical, even though only one of them is Toad. (Check out Super Mario 64 and Luigi's Mansion for more examples of red-spotted, blue-vested Mushroom People who aren't Toad.)

Additionally, I've always thought of the spotted mushroom caps as being biological. I've never seen any official material from Nintendo themselves that represents the mushroom caps as articles of clothing.

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SMB2 was Super Mario Bros. 2, and you can play as Mario, Luigi, Toad or Princess Toadstool. I wouldn't imagine they were "bros" to Mario, despite the name of the game.
SMB 2 was a direct sequel to SMB, which was a sequel to Mario Bros. (the word "Super" stands in for a sequel number in this case, just as it would many times during the Super NES era with Super Metroid, Super Bomberman, etc.), which was called Mario Bros. because Mario had a brother in that game (as opposed to a palette swap that appeared out of thin air when he picked up the Four Sword).

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And that jab about the "Bros." in the title isn't especially defensible. It neglects to reference Luigi directly, and I could just as easily mention Super Smash Bros. You're going to tell me that Samus is related to Kirby, now?
Super Smash Bros. is a parody of/reference to the title Super Mario Bros., which was a sequel to Mario Bros, which was called Mario Bros. because Mario had a brother in the game (as opposed to a palette swap that appeared out of thin air when he picked up the Four Sword).

Last edited by Metal Mario; 11-17-2009 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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