[Cosmonautical]

Originally Posted by Cravdraa

Aahhh, but AI was the one that brought up canon. Repeatedly.
Despite the fact that I tried to get off that subject because it doesn't matter, and honestly isn't all that related.
But since he insisted, I played his little game and now that it didn't go his way there suddenly is no canon. I understand. How very convenient for him.

You're reading it wrong, k thx. I said that there is no over-arcing series-wide canon. I said that in-game, in the instance of OoT where the Triforce is created, it is not presented as an unarguable fact. It is therefore canonical that you are told the story, not that the story is presented as fact. As there is no dependable series-wide canon, LttP canon cannot be used to argue OoT canon. As it is, CL's ability to accept conflicts in canon are not related to the root argument, as well, and I am accurate in stating that it's not in your interest to pursue a validity-of-medium-as-canon argument. Belittling the comic does not negate its existence. If your "EVERY SINGLE SOURCE" weren't canonically related, if CL hadn't attempted to use canon to disprove the validity of the comic's existence, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

No, my point is and always has been that Majora's mask is not simply an object of power that corrupts, it's a an evil spirit that controls. That's the third time I've had to repeat myself. These are fundamentally different concepts, "from a writer's perspective" because of what it means for the victim. Sure, in this case they both become villains. But in the case of corruption through power, the victim is less empathetic because they are essentually doing it to themselves. In many cases, with this sort of plot device, the object of power is just speeding up what would have happened. (given, Ganondorf wasn't that nice a guy to begin with.)
In the case of Majora's Mask, the victim is slowly, subtilely overtaken, as the mask eventually takes complete control over them. In a way, the victim is completely innocent in this senario. It's the Mask acting through them, controlling them, inflicting what harm it wishes to through them, possibly even despite of their best efforts to contrary. This can even make them them a tragic character, once their plight is known to the audience.

So what you're saying is that the character reverts to pre-mask possession state, and that ultimately makes the transformation from a mask-stealing ******* into a world-destroying ******* completely different from a triforce-stealing ******* who carries through with his final attack rather than commanding a minion or force to attack you. The nature of the perversion is different because Ganondorf sought it directly and used it intentionally to attempt to ruin the world, whereas the Skull Kid happened on it and used it intentionally, possibly with an external voice directing him, to attempt to ruin the world. As Ganondorf is imprisoned and ruined after his battle, and the Skull Kid is eschewed by his power which leaves him impotent, how can we ascertain that the Skull Kid's true nature is impotence? As Ganondorf's true nature is a void of power and influence minus the triforce, this is different? The Skull Kid uses his abilities prior to obtaining the mask to cause intentional ill-will, and ill-will is something he is incapable of not having possessed the mask?

Those are very different concepts.
Neither are all that original. I never said they were.
My point was simply that the concept of Majora's Mask is quite different from what had been used in the Zelda series before.

No, they are very similar concepts. Very different concepts are a man driving down a highway to get to a dentist's appointment having a flat tire, and a lamp that doubles as a blender. Your differences are superficial.

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

I read through all the posts again, and I'm really not seeing much of the similarity between the Triforce of Power and Majora's Mask, AI. It feels like you're comparing two plot devices because they're both plot devices which, while like in output, are completely different in their function and nature in the game. And for that matter, the Skull Kid wasn't a power-hungry warlord after an ancient artifact, he was a lonely bumpkin who happened upon a demonic mask which saw him as a vessel it could use to carry out its evil plans.

Crav and CL seem to have expressed most of my thoughts already, though.

You are comparing two plot devices that are like in function, output and nature, and finding that their execution varies to a small extent and concluding they are not identical clones, which does not correlate to this argument.

For that matter, Link wasn't a hapless child summoned by a faerie to tree in TP, he was an adult shepherd who took up a quest to rescue his village's children. He ultimately still serves a near-identical purpose and place in a transparent plot.