[Dai Grepher]

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This timeline from Nintendo shows that Zero Mission's telling takes place after all the other games.

Prince Zack of Ryland: Dai Grepher, how do you explain the two manual's background text being exactly the same?

Dai Grepher: First, they are not the same. The one in Zero Mission is a revised telling of Metroid's backstory. However, that story does not apply to Zero Mission. It was only mentioned to give Zero Mission a basis as a prequel.

Prince Zack of Ryland: Zero Mission is obviously a retcon of Metroid 1. The storyline is changed, it's not just different, it's changed. The amount of change is irrelevant to it being a remake or not. Zero Mission replaces Metroid 1, meaning any ingame evidence in Metroid 1 is irrevevant.

Dai Grepher: A game that replaces another can change everything, true. However, Super Metroid relies on information from Metroid in order to exist. Therefore, if Zero Mission does not feature this same information, then it contradicts Super Metroid. Zero Mission's Tourian does not match that seen in Super Metroid in location or appearance. Therefore it cannot replace Metroid or else Super Metroid will be inconsistent. That is the main reason why it cannot possibly be a remake. The others are that the stories do not match, and Zero Mission states that it is the first adventure of Samus, while Metroid was not. So the games and their stories both prove that I am right.

Prince Zack of Ryland: However, you can (and have) worked it into the storyline, and thats fine with me. However the offical timeline has already been posted by me and that's the one I, and most people go by.

Dai Grepher: I won't disagree that you and most people go by the timeline you posted, but yours is far from official. The official timeline places Zero Mission's telling of past events at the end of the timeline after Metroid Fusion. Nintendo has also stated on a few occasions that Zero Mission is not a remake. The director of Zero Mission, Sakamoto, has also said that Zero Mission is only based on Metroid's gameplay.

CodieKitty: Unless that word has another definition I'm not aware of, you're confusing your words. A retcon is a game (or possibly a movie or a book) whose events have been removed from the series' official storyline (games that are part of the official storyline are called "canon").

Dai Grepher: Retcon means retroactive continuity. It usually refers to prequels, or information that is added to earlier points in a series' timeline. I think he was using the word's other definition of something that replaces facts and changes the series or creates a new version.

Em Jay: Actually that was a trick question. Apart means "split away from; separate." You said yes. So basically you said it wasn't part of the series.

Dai Grepher: No, I said it was a part of the series. I assumed that you made a typographical error. That is why I did not correct you.

[ July 04, 2005, 02:53 AM: Message edited by: Dai Grepher ]