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Old 04-29-2008, 02:50 PM   #87
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Yes, however by saying 'may' in the section about the fallen Christian being more erratic due to lack of moral code, I note that not all Christians rely entirely on 'God' for their moral compass; and still yet others base it on the tenets of their religion and keep them with them all their life.

The irony is that of the person who puts their morals as being entirely created by their religion, and then of those people, those who would then point at me and declare me evil not because of my actions but because of where my morals come from. It is then revealed by the actions of such people if they lose their religion that their distrust of the more mundane moral codes followed by a disillusioning with their 'higher' moral codes leaves them with little to no morals left over, wheras if they had simply respected the moral codes of others and not artificially limited themselves they would probably be able to continue to avoid bad things even outside of their religion.

I apologize for the confusing wording of this sentence, but I wished to explain the unique case I mentioned. I don't usually do so because of how hard it is (even for me) to understand such a confusing case when stated explicitly like that, but just to show that I'm not going "Lol christians" there you go.

In truth, I believe all moral systems are created equal, as long as they are actually moral (obviously, any moral system which says killing people is good and such is excluded) and that I respect them all the same; my qualm is with those who belittle other moral systems without taking a good look at how they apply their own to themself in the first place.

I apologize if it seems to be mocking, for having travelled through the puebloan lands, I know well how much that sort of thing can harm people. Although editorial comment has its place, this topic isn't one of them, so feel free to note if I get a bit snarky at times--that's just due to the fact it's often my normal tone. @_@
Oh no no, I notice that my post may have come off as a little snappy but that wasn't meant to be the case. It was more of a "yeah, let's talk about it, but don't mock me for my beliefs because I don't mock you for yours"

You are correct though, you don't necessarily need religion to have morals, at hte same time, you can be religious as you want but be morally unsound. As I've stated many times before, I don't consider myself "Christian" more like a child of God. When you start getting into religion you start getting into some churches who have corrupt leaders that lead people to attempt to worship the pastor and not the purpose. When I pray at night I'm sure my prayer is very different from most, while I fear God, I embrace him as sort of a giant parent. I talk to him about my feelings and sometimes I cry expressing myself, but in the end I know that he's heard what I wanted him to hear.

In the end people who attempt to down folks that don't believe the same as them, or just don't agree with them are hypocrites. You're not getting your job done if you're alienating people even more because of different beliefs. I don't drag my friends to church, but if they're looking for one, I tell them about mine and they're welcome to come with me. When people ask me why I believe, I tell them that my faith has been gathered and reinforced through various points in my short lifetime.
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