[Speed is just Speed]

Originally Posted by Caput Equi XVI

1. Tournament players who say people need to learn how to play are stupid.

2. People who dis tournament players for the things they know are also stupid.

Sword guys who cheat? What does that even mean?

You don't have to know about "sneaky game holes." If you know tournament players, play some time matches on stages like Big Blue, with items on. If they don't want to because it's not fun, that's their fault and they're dumb.



Tiers are based off of winners of tournaments. Fox is the top of the tier for a good reason--he matches up with so many people and can easily rape on any stage. Fox is the reason many of the Melee stages aren't used in tournaments--he would win every time on a place like Onett or Yoshi's Island. So yeah, tiers exist. The best Fox player ever could easily beat the best Bowser player ever.

Capt, Tiers weren't created by Fox players. I play as Doctor Mario and I still think tiers exist. People play who they enjoy playing as--if that's Fox, more power to them. There are some well-known tourney players who play as mid-to-low tiers: Gimpyfish plays Bowser, King plays Jigglypuff, the list goes on.


This is how I read that: "I fought my friend's Marth one time and I won, so tiers don't exist."

If you meant something else, let me know.

Now I want you guys to pay close attention to this:

If you do advanced techniques, you're not necessarily a good player.
If you're a good player, the advanced techniques are extremely useful.

See what I'm saying? I can L-cancel, wavedash, Shuffle, but there are people out there that are way better than I am. Don't piss all over the idea of tournament players just because they play the game differently.

Enjoy the game. Don't talk **** about other people who enjoy it in their way.

Also, I have nothing against any of you guys, but every time someone makes an unfair generalization, especially when they're saying something stupid about something I enjoy, I get a little bothered.

Also, Brawl is my favorite.

You are now my least favorite person.