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Originally Posted by Lurch1982  If Iraq were to fall into anarchy? What exactly do you call it when the central government has no authority once you get out of the protected zones, the military doesn't show up because they overslept, Iraqi military divisions acting like "death squads" against other ethnic or religious groups, kidnap+executions, open fighting against coalition forces, IEDs/roadside bombs, mortar attacks, etc. It's already in anarchy or something close to it. After 8 years of not giving a **** of what foreign powers think, why exactly should we start now? |
We're currently there to educate the Iraqi military not to do those sorts of things. It's taking a little longer than expected, but we can't just cut and run with Iraq in the state that it's currently in.
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| Here's the difference: Obama's the equivalent of sitting in church and having your preacher say some stuff you don't agree with. Hillary joined some Washington group that really hasn't fallen out of step with US foreign policy in terms of supporting facists. Neither Hillary nor Obama sought endorsements from these groups. McCain sought out the endorsements of hatemongering kooks. That is the difference. If Obama is elected and the Wright scandal never happened, Wright wouldn't have any say or position in his administration. If McCain is elected, all of the kooks he got the endorsements of (in order to force Huckabee out of the race) are going to stand there with their hands out expecting some sort of quid pro quo exchange. IOW: one of their own in powerful positions. |
The timeline you provided in that link links one article saying that he sought out that particular endorsement. In the same interview, he proceeded to deny or claim everything is out of contest. Why do we suddenly believe one thing and not the other?
The article doesn't give a single piece of evidence that he abandoned his position on the exceptions to abortion, a completely moderate and even non-Bush platform (The article even seems to say that he slammed Bush in 2000 for the very same reason).