Nicktoons sucks for their disdain for Anime. - Page 4 - VGF

MC Luigi · 11-13-2006, 03:16 PM

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^^ You like BoBoBo? *throws up* And no we don't, if we don't like anime, deal with it. Also, American shows will always pwn anime. The huge amount of money Nick makes is WAAYYYY more than ANYTHING Japan can ever HOPE to make.

comeonman1111 · 11-13-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Muteki Rarus

Incoming rant!:
I hate Nick period. Once upon a time, they were pretty decent, but now, in the post Spongebob *shudders* they are destroying everything western cartoons were supposed to be! Now, they control a HUGE portion of the cartoon industry, and young children are being deprived of good old shows like GI Joe, and other hero shows, Japanese and American alike! It are bad!

...Had to get that off my chest.

wait wait wait....so your saying that we should never create new cartoons again? Wouldn't that make every cartoon have it to where they'd eventually run out of ideas? And i don't think that nickelodeon is hurting the cartoon industry as much as anime is. Kids like you are starting to become prejudiced against a show when it doesn't show spiky haired guys with wierd hair colors and bad speech.

and for all of you who cried when they made fun of speed racer, get over it. That show sucked. They spent almost five minutes each episode in a freeze frame talking in repitition. That deserves to get made fun of! And do you know why the creators of the show did that? To save money because too much animation in cartoons back then was expensive, so they decided to be cheap.

comeonman1111 · 11-13-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zack

Definetly not true, Anime has alot of different genres. I can think of alot of different animes that don't adhear to that sterotype: Ghost in the Shell, Fooly Cooly, Hikaru no Go, Mobile Suit Gundam, ect. If you believe that it's obvious you don't have alot of experience with anime. It's true that alot of those are shown in America, but many more are quite different.

Ah hah....and that brings me to my other point too....you brought up their stupid obsession over huge robots in primary colors.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 11-13-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

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^^ You like BoBoBo? *throws up* And no we don't, if we don't like anime, deal with it. Also, American shows will always pwn anime. The huge amount of money Nick makes is WAAYYYY more than ANYTHING Japan can ever HOPE to make.

Uh... you realize you just compared the income of a cartoon company to the income of a large industrialized nation (3rd richest in the world) and claimed that the income of THE COMPANY was larger, right?
GDP = $4 trillion

Galefore · 11-13-2006, 05:08 PM

^^*sigh* As long as you yet keep to your stereotype of animes all being the same, which is proven to not be true, then you will be ignored for your biased and untrue comments, and your heed not be taken. And by the way: Robot anime are cool, although some are low quality. Gundam is a very intriqueing franchise, by the way, and I know very many people who would openly murder you for calling it stupid.

And what the hell is wrong with liking BoBoBo, SuperLuigi128? Even Andre frickin' likes it, and he's one of the more serious members. You just happen to be two-faced, by the way, as you were singing Anime's praises for a while there, and then, BOOM, you discover that Avatar is American, and attack Anime for not having Avatar. Geez, I see no reason to take you seriously either.

Valigarmander ASS · 11-13-2006, 07:13 PM

SL128 is a louse.

comeonman1111 · 11-14-2006, 03:34 PM

To all the people who claim new american cartoons are being anime wannabes, here's something you ought to know. Anime looks like anime because it uses computers animation. The new american cartoons you see now are the result of improved animations and such in America. Just because it looks like anime doesn't mean it's intended to be anime. So all you people who hate american cartoons and flame them for being "like anime", SHUT UP!

Mikhail Gorbachev · 11-14-2006, 04:31 PM

If you're saying anime is... computer generated... which I hope you aren't... please shut up until you know what you're talking about.
Anyway.
Computers didn't help to push American cartoons further into the sytle of Japanese anime. All computers did was further the degeneration of cartoons into 3D CGI garbage wiith the same plot over and over, always about anthropomorphic animals going on wacky and fun adventures for the whole family. What didn't degenerate into this degenerated into dry, vapid comdies in a school setting (often also incorporating anthropomorphic animals as then companion of the main character, your average preteen WASP.) made in Flash, all with the same damn animation style. Seeing some of the new shows on Cartoon Network, I haven't even been able to tell the difference between some shows.
I certainly wouldn't call that an improvement.
An improvement from the good cartoons (don't kill me, anime fans.) such as (I know I will be immediately bombarded with accusations of tastelessness) Ed, Edd, n Eddy. EEE was god damn brilliant. EEE exceeded the barrier of tradition and sameness plaguing the cartoon industry. Stylized, creative... hilarious. It exemplified everything that made American cartoons great. It was the last major cartoon in the world to be hand-drawn.
And?
With a lack for support of hand-drawn animation, and the absence of any major hand-drawn animation studio in the world, it was forced to use the same damn thing every other cartoon used. It's declined. It's definitely declined. Not only because of the new animation style, but because of the switch from eternal summer (which was one of EEE's hallmarks) to a school setting. Of course, it could be argued that plot ideas were running out, but isn't it better for a series to explode rather than fade away? But I'm rambling now.
Computers didn't improve American animation.
They destroyed it.

Galefore · 11-14-2006, 04:55 PM

^You rawk. I believe our point is proven.

Valigarmander ASS · 11-14-2006, 07:27 PM

^^ You said everything I wanted to say but was too stupid to do so. And I agree, EEE does not suck, like everything else on CN. Dear god, My Gym Partner's a Monkey makes me want to vomit. But yeah, what I just said. I thank thee.

Inferno Dragon · 11-16-2006, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by comeonman1111

Ah hah....and that brings me to my other point too....you brought up their stupid obsession over huge robots in primary colors.

the super robot era and mecha era brought us some of the greatest anime of all time. Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, Voltron, Macross (you'd know it as Robotech), Mobile Suit Gundam, Gigantor, Big O, the list goes on.

the point is some of the greatest shows we've had over here, an example being Voltron, are in fact anime. of course, if you weren't a child of the 80's like I was then you probably don't know what I'm talking about.

Kaiser · 11-16-2006, 09:14 AM

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^^ You said everything I wanted to say but was too stupid to do so. And I agree, EEE does not suck, like everything else on CN. Dear god, My Gym Partner's a Monkey makes me want to vomit. But yeah, what I just said. I thank thee.

I have to admit that My Gym Partner's a Monkey is the kind of show that would make you retch. Squirrel Boy is questionable, and whether or not Class of 3000 becomes successful is anybody's guess.

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comeonman1111 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Posts: 144 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Points: 1,432.47 Bank: 0.94 Total Points: 1,433.41 Donate	To all the people who claim new american cartoons are being anime wannabes, here's something you ought to know. Anime looks like anime because it uses computers animation. The new american cartoons you see now are the result of improved animations and such in America. Just because it looks like anime doesn't mean it's intended to be anime. So all you people who hate american cartoons and flame them for being "like anime", SHUT UP!

11-14-2006, 04:31 PM	#68
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,464 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 44 Posts Points: 93.15 Bank: 22,128.50 Total Points: 22,221.65 Donate	If you're saying anime is... computer generated... which I hope you aren't... please shut up until you know what you're talking about. Anyway. Computers didn't help to push American cartoons further into the sytle of Japanese anime. All computers did was further the degeneration of cartoons into 3D CGI garbage wiith the same plot over and over, always about anthropomorphic animals going on wacky and fun adventures for the whole family. What didn't degenerate into this degenerated into dry, vapid comdies in a school setting (often also incorporating anthropomorphic animals as then companion of the main character, your average preteen WASP.) made in Flash, all with the same damn animation style. Seeing some of the new shows on Cartoon Network, I haven't even been able to tell the difference between some shows. I certainly wouldn't call that an improvement. An improvement from the good cartoons (don't kill me, anime fans.) such as (I know I will be immediately bombarded with accusations of tastelessness) Ed, Edd, n Eddy. EEE was god damn brilliant. EEE exceeded the barrier of tradition and sameness plaguing the cartoon industry. Stylized, creative... hilarious. It exemplified everything that made American cartoons great. It was the last major cartoon in the world to be hand-drawn. And? With a lack for support of hand-drawn animation, and the absence of any major hand-drawn animation studio in the world, it was forced to use the same damn thing every other cartoon used. It's declined. It's definitely declined. Not only because of the new animation style, but because of the switch from eternal summer (which was one of EEE's hallmarks) to a school setting. Of course, it could be argued that plot ideas were running out, but isn't it better for a series to explode rather than fade away? But I'm rambling now. Computers didn't improve American animation. They destroyed it.

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Valigarmander ASS RADDA RADDA RADDA! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Radda, radda. Gender: Posts: 12,546 Thanks: 715 Thanked 1,109 Times in 584 Posts Points: 253.49 Bank: 120,220.15 Total Points: 120,473.64 Donate	^^ You said everything I wanted to say but was too stupid to do so. And I agree, EEE does not suck, like everything else on CN. Dear god, My Gym Partner's a Monkey makes me want to vomit. But yeah, what I just said. I thank thee.