Anime or American Cartoons? - VGF

BrandonTragedy · 07-21-2006, 06:06 PM

Anime is way better!

Katyrna · 07-21-2006, 07:46 PM

Anime, please.

Jace Mario · 07-21-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathscythe

Anime is way better!

agreed.

[sage] · 07-21-2006, 10:35 PM

With the exceptions of Simpsons, Futurama, Family guy and south park, anime wins by a long shot.

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-22-2006, 09:31 AM

Tintin pwns them both. European comics and cartoons pwn all. -CSM

GRENTLEMEN · 07-22-2006, 04:22 PM

Mostly any children's cartoons done in the American fashion are just lackluster, these days. A lot of the anime programs I see brought over for kids are pretty cheap looking, all the same. Best animation I've ever seen is in Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence. When you see something like that up on the big screen.. it's just amazing.

Legendary Super Saiyan · 07-23-2006, 05:58 AM

ANIME hands down

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what the devil is a garfield?

Galefore · 07-23-2006, 12:55 PM

America tries its hardest to gear Anime, a clearly adult or older-teen genre, towards kids, and its Hell on us who wanted to see a decent Dub of One-Piece or a decent dub of.... Well, just about everything! America transforms Shonen Jump and other Manga/Anime into a children's cartoon-like mockery of its original form and subject matter, and it seems with the idiocy of Nickolodeon out there, we will see a considerable amount of falsified "Amirime" and crappy cheapshots at the favored Genre(Anime) in the crappiest of American Television. Anime, definately, is the better choice.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-03-2006, 01:07 PM

Anime doesn't have good animation. It's more like a slideshow than a cartoon. And until I see a funny Anime in the vein of The Simpsons or Family Guy I will steer clear of it. -CSM

Galefore · 08-03-2006, 01:29 PM

^Slideshow? Fool.

You are wrong, but to save a rant, we leave it at that. Read A.I.'s post.

BrandonTragedy · 08-03-2006, 01:36 PM

Hey core have you seen Samurai Deeper Kya

Galefore · 08-03-2006, 01:39 PM

^Actually, I just downloaded the songs lyrics and am going to try to watch it on a friends DishDVR. My damned Wam and EAction cut off...

I might look up the subs or find it on Youtube.

ANIME IS YOUR MOTHER. WOOOT.

BrandonTragedy · 08-03-2006, 01:47 PM

Quote:

^Actually, I just downloaded the songs lyrics and am going to try to watch it on a friends DishDVR. My damned Wam and EAction cut off...

I might look up the subs or find it on Youtube.

ANIME IS YOUR MOTHER. WOOOT.

I have some episodes on my dvr, it's on WAM. from what Ive seen of it, it is bloody awesome.

FXGlobal · 08-14-2006, 01:00 PM

ANIME!!!! But the only problem.... I cant watch any (except for Nick Anime). This DishFamily package takes away CN. That just sucks. I like anime, but, as A.I. said, some of the anime is changed to be more for kids. And my internet sucks so I dont watch YouTube very much....

Irby · 08-14-2006, 01:46 PM

Anime is ....!

**Wyborn** · 08-14-2006, 02:15 PM

The Transformers.
Samurai Jack.
The Simpsons.
Futurama.
South Park.
Megas XLR.
The Tick.
Batman the Animated Series.
Justice League Unlimited.
The old Dexter's Laboratory episodes.
Clone Wars.
Pretty much anything by Tartakovsky.
Disney circa Tarzan on back.
Anything by Pixar.
The Centurions. (shut up. The Centurions kicked ass)

Too much anime is mass-produced shlock. When it's great it's mind-blowing, like with Fooly Cooly or the original Ghost in the Shell movie or Cowboy Bebop, but in general the better half of American cartoons trumps the better half of anime.

Swordmaster Link · 08-14-2006, 03:34 PM

Come to think of it, I don't watch much of either lately, but I'd say American.

Galefore · 08-14-2006, 03:46 PM

To contradict the list posted by Wyborn:

Rurouni Kenshin
Full Metal Alchemist
FLCL
Gundam in General
Miyazaki Films
Samurai Champloo
Ghost in the Shell
Samurai Deeper Kyo
Naruto
Basilisk: The Kouga Ninja Scrolls
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Hellsing
Bleach
.Hack in general (It was cool, even though some would argue.)
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Inuyasha's Early Episodes (The first twenty or so avoided repetition rather well)
Samurai 7

Anime is truly great in several cases. This is a list of a few semi- to fully high quality anime that even the Semi-high worthwhile watchability. Either way, Anime stands as the better.

(Edit: Excuuuuuuse my spelling mistake, Deathsythe.)

BrandonTragedy · 08-14-2006, 04:39 PM

It's Samurai Deeper Kyo, not Samurai Depper Kyo.

**Wyborn** · 08-14-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Galefore

To contradict the list posted by Wyborn:

Rurouni Kenshin
Full Metal Alchemist

Manga was better. In both cases.

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FLCL

I listed Fooly Cooly as exemplary awesome anime, so of course I conede.

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Gundam in General

No. Gundam 0083, Gundam 0080, and 08th MS Team were fantastic, top of the line mecha anime. Pretty much any other series - the original, Gundam Wing, G Gundam - are either stale or utter trash.

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Miyazaki Films

I hated Princess Mononoke.

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Samurai Champloo
Ghost in the Shell

Granted.

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Samurai Deeper Kyo
Naruto
Basilisk: The Kouga Ninja Scrolls
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Hellsing
Bleach

Not a bad list...

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.Hack in general (It was cool, even though some would argue.)

No.

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Neon Genesis Evangelion
Inuyasha's Early Episodes (The first twenty or so avoided repetition rather well)

Yes to NGE, no to InuYasha. InuYasha is DBZ for girls, only without the guilty pleasure factor of main characters being violently murdered all the time.

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Samurai 7

No comment, never seen.

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Anime is truly great in several cases. This is a list of a few semi- to fully high quality anime that even the Semi-high worthwhile watchability. Either way, Anime stands as the better.

So be it, I'll pull out a more complete list of bad-ass American cartoons, my previous list being at the top.

The Transformers.
Samurai Jack.
The Simpsons.
Futurama.
South Park.
Megas XLR.
The Tick.
Batman the Animated Series.
Justice League Unlimited.
The old Dexter's Laboratory episodes.
Clone Wars.
Pretty much anything by Tartakovsky.
Disney circa Tarzan on back.
Anything by Pixar.
The Centurions.
Batman Beyond.
The Popeye cartoon.
Merry Melodies.
Looney Tunes.
Tom and Jerry.
The old Mickey Mouse shorts.
Winnie the Pooh (there was never a finer kids' show).
The Flintstones.
Johnny Quest.
The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest.
Space Ghost.
Bird Man.
Korgoth of Barbaria.
The Venture Bros.
Mission Hill.
The Oblongs.
The Angry Beavers.
X-Men.
X-Men: Evolution.
SpongeBob Squarepants.
The Rugrats (first five years or so were freaking hilarious).
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Ren and Stimpy.
The Powerpuff Girls.
Johnny Bravo.
Duck Dodgers.
The Boondocks.
Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego?
SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron.
Rocko's Modern Life.
The Pirates of Dark Water.
Pinky and the Brain.
Gargoyles.
Hey Arnold!
Home Movies.
King of the Hill.
Invader Zim.
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.
Superman The Animated Series.
Freakazoid.
Dave the Barbarian.
The Iron Giant. (I should shoot myself for forgetting this)

See that right there? Notice anything about that list? Each of thos cartoons, even if they're meant to fill a specific niche (like Home Movies or Winnie the Pooh), kicks ass. American animation has the richest history in the world, and has more heavy-hitting series and movies this very second than Japan will have twenty years from now.

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07-21-2006, 06:06 PM	#1
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Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dry land. Gender: Posts: 5,540 Thanks: 602 Thanked 334 Times in 267 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 4,346.66 Bank: 34,721.88 Total Points: 39,068.54 Donate	To contradict the list posted by Wyborn: Rurouni Kenshin Full Metal Alchemist FLCL Gundam in General Miyazaki Films Samurai Champloo Ghost in the Shell Samurai Deeper Kyo Naruto Basilisk: The Kouga Ninja Scrolls Cowboy Bebop Trigun Hellsing Bleach .Hack in general (It was cool, even though some would argue.) Neon Genesis Evangelion Inuyasha's Early Episodes (The first twenty or so avoided repetition rather well) Samurai 7 Anime is truly great in several cases. This is a list of a few semi- to fully high quality anime that even the Semi-high worthwhile watchability. Either way, Anime stands as the better. (Edit: Excuuuuuuse my spelling mistake, Deathsythe.) Last edited by Galefore; 08-14-2006 at 04:47 PM.

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[sage] Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 18,022 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 30,423.64 Bank: 541.22 Total Points: 30,964.86 Donate	With the exceptions of Simpsons, Futurama, Family guy and south park, anime wins by a long shot.

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07-23-2006, 05:58 AM	#7
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Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dry land. Gender: Posts: 5,540 Thanks: 602 Thanked 334 Times in 267 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 4,346.66 Bank: 34,721.88 Total Points: 39,068.54 Donate	America tries its hardest to gear Anime, a clearly adult or older-teen genre, towards kids, and its Hell on us who wanted to see a decent Dub of One-Piece or a decent dub of.... Well, just about everything! America transforms Shonen Jump and other Manga/Anime into a children's cartoon-like mockery of its original form and subject matter, and it seems with the idiocy of Nickolodeon out there, we will see a considerable amount of falsified "Amirime" and crappy cheapshots at the favored Genre(Anime) in the crappiest of American Television. Anime, definately, is the better choice.

08-03-2006, 01:07 PM	#9
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 7,980 Thanks: 538 Thanked 373 Times in 256 Posts Points: 126,609.11 Bank: 26,695.24 Total Points: 153,304.34 Donate	Anime doesn't have good animation. It's more like a slideshow than a cartoon. And until I see a funny Anime in the vein of The Simpsons or Family Guy I will steer clear of it. -CSM

08-03-2006, 01:29 PM	#10
Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dry land. Gender: Posts: 5,540 Thanks: 602 Thanked 334 Times in 267 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 4,346.66 Bank: 34,721.88 Total Points: 39,068.54 Donate	^Slideshow? Fool. You are wrong, but to save a rant, we leave it at that. Read A.I.'s post.

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08-03-2006, 01:39 PM	#12
Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dry land. Gender: Posts: 5,540 Thanks: 602 Thanked 334 Times in 267 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 4,346.66 Bank: 34,721.88 Total Points: 39,068.54 Donate	^Actually, I just downloaded the songs lyrics and am going to try to watch it on a friends DishDVR. My damned Wam and EAction cut off... I might look up the subs or find it on Youtube. ANIME IS YOUR MOTHER. WOOOT.

08-14-2006, 01:00 PM	#14
FXGlobal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: In that one place. Yeah... Gender: Posts: 1,375 Thanks: 49 Thanked 32 Times in 29 Posts Points: 6,324.62 Bank: 92,776.41 Total Points: 99,101.03 Donate	ANIME!!!! But the only problem.... I cant watch any (except for Nick Anime). This DishFamily package takes away CN. That just sucks. I like anime, but, as A.I. said, some of the anime is changed to be more for kids. And my internet sucks so I dont watch YouTube very much....

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08-14-2006, 02:15 PM	#16
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 86 Thanked 437 Times in 269 Posts Points: 14,891.55 Bank: 71,521.32 Total Points: 86,412.87 Donate	The Transformers. Samurai Jack. The Simpsons. Futurama. South Park. Megas XLR. The Tick. Batman the Animated Series. Justice League Unlimited. The old Dexter's Laboratory episodes. Clone Wars. Pretty much anything by Tartakovsky. Disney circa Tarzan on back. Anything by Pixar. The Centurions. (shut up. The Centurions kicked ass) Too much anime is mass-produced shlock. When it's great it's mind-blowing, like with Fooly Cooly or the original Ghost in the Shell movie or Cowboy Bebop, but in general the better half of American cartoons trumps the better half of anime.

08-14-2006, 03:34 PM	#17
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08-14-2006, 04:39 PM	#19
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