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***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-11-2008, 03:17 PM

The Simpsons, in it's prime, was one of the most intelligent, humorous shows on television. To echo the sentiments of several posters already (who, not coincidentally, are all older) it has definitely declined in the past several years.

I enjoy Futurama. Family Guy is only occasionally funny now - Seth McFarlane just got a little too bitter, and started making stupid, spiteful jokes just to be an ass.

X-3 · 07-11-2008, 03:33 PM

I share everyone's opinion about The Simpsons and Family Guy. Meanwhile, Futurama is perhaps one of my favorite shows of all time.

Minister of Silly Walks · 07-11-2008, 03:33 PM

I still like The Simpsons. It's not as good as it once was, but I still enjoy watching it. I also love Futurama, I find it hilarious.

Family Guy, on the other hand, bugs the crap out of me. I used to like it, but the humor of the show just got so very old after a while.

Metal Man · 07-11-2008, 03:55 PM

The definitive jumping the shark moment for me was when they retconned the past to happen in the 90's.

On the Simpsons, that is.

It was one of the best, but there was no way it could stay good forever. That'd be impossible.

Erdawn Il Deus · 07-11-2008, 07:52 PM

'Last Exit to Springfield' should be taught in film studies for how perfect it is. Season 4. Everything from season 2 - 8, in my opinion, is gold, although you can notice the progressive changes to the series. Changes which, ultimately, would stagnate everything. The simpsons turned from the - most - realistic - depiction of family life in a sitcom (putting crap like the Waltons and Family Matters to shame, and only met by say, Roseanne) despite being a cartoon. The early episodes were almost serious if not for the wit. There was a comparason made in a review of the SImpsons' position nowadays between the days when you would see an episode end with Homer and Marge riding off in the sunset on a bicycle to Homer taking Marge out with a blowgun dart to the neck.

When was the last time you can remember that cartoon being touching?

Gal - how can you not like it!? I'm curious. You're like some kind of strange phenomenon to me, because insofar as I know, you're not too young to fully appreciate all the subtleties in the series.

Bomby · 07-11-2008, 07:56 PM

The Simpsons went downhill after they stopped trying to appeal to blue collar audiences and switched the focus from character-based stories to zany antics to appeal to a wider audience. It's called switching from narrowcasting to broadcasting.

Erdawn Il Deus · 07-11-2008, 08:06 PM

Or good to suck

Never again will we hear "Hey we're just like the Waltons. We're both praying for an end to the Depression."

Chunky Kong12345 · 07-11-2008, 08:31 PM

smite the unbelievers

Vapor · 07-11-2008, 08:46 PM

Last time I saw an episode of Family Guy, I found it funny...like....6% of the time.

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-11-2008, 10:27 PM

I don't know why but for some reason I want to blame Parker and Stone for both Southpark and simpsons going downhill at breakneck speed. Bah must be all the caiffien I drink.

- You stupid dog!

Jigsaw · 07-12-2008, 03:12 AM

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Gal - how can you not like it!? I'm curious. You're like some kind of strange phenomenon to me, because insofar as I know, you're not too young to fully appreciate all the subtleties in the series.

Eh, I must be missing something. Every time I've watched it, it contained nothing but jejune humour and annoying gags. Perhaps I truly should attempt to witness the old, old episodes of the Simpsons, but my opinion of it is forged simply on the material I've seen.

Minister of Silly Walks · 07-12-2008, 10:50 AM

Gale, you should check out some of the older episodes, like Erdawn said, Seasons 2-8. Seriously. I understand that you already have an opinion, but I think you should at least try to see what we're saying.

Erdawn Il Deus · 07-12-2008, 11:32 AM

Yeah man. And I mean go for seasons 2-3 specifically to get what we're talking about. And 4. Start with the early, early ones.

Jigsaw · 07-12-2008, 02:50 PM

Sure thing. I'll give 'em a try.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-12-2008, 04:15 PM

I liked The Simpsons when I was a kid, now it's just ridiculous. Futurama blew The Simpsons outta the water, IMO. The last episode of The Simpson I watched was...hm, the one where Homer cuts off his finger, puts it in pickle juice, gets drunk and...I forgot what happend after that. I just don't like the show anymore.

Futurama was a stroke of genius, I seen all the episodes but I need to see that new Bender movie.

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-12-2008, 04:27 PM

Bender's big Score is great, as for the new movie, the Beast with a Billion backs I want to see it but don't know if it's any good.

- You stupid dog!

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-12-2008, 04:40 PM

What's that other movie you mentioned, PK? Another Futurama movie?

Metal Man · 07-12-2008, 05:26 PM

Futurama can't touch the original Simpsons episodes, sorry.

And as for blowing the new ones out of the water, practically anything can do that. The Simpsons merely became too accustomed to being #1 to actually defend itself with good episodes anymore.

A similar effect killed Sonic, just much, much faster.

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-12-2008, 05:51 PM

"The Beast with a billion backs" The second of three direct to DVD Futurama movies that when split up into half hour episodes form the newest season of said show.

I though it was Sega Pulling a Capcom with the Sonic games that caused that?

- You stupid dog!

Metal Man · 07-12-2008, 09:10 PM

Not enough Sonic games for it to really be a capcom; instead of dividing it up into many separate series they just sorta made one bad series.

07-11-2008, 03:17 PM	#41
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,392 Thanks: 548 Thanked 911 Times in 619 Posts Points: 35,806.50 Bank: 649,444.26 Total Points: 685,250.76 Donate	The Simpsons, in it's prime, was one of the most intelligent, humorous shows on television. To echo the sentiments of several posters already (who, not coincidentally, are all older) it has definitely declined in the past several years. I enjoy Futurama. Family Guy is only occasionally funny now - Seth McFarlane just got a little too bitter, and started making stupid, spiteful jokes just to be an ass.

07-11-2008, 03:33 PM	#42
X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 9,654 Thanks: 342 Thanked 395 Times in 287 Posts Blog Entries: 5 Points: 23,797.64 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 23,797.64 Donate	I share everyone's opinion about The Simpsons and Family Guy. Meanwhile, Futurama is perhaps one of my favorite shows of all time.

07-11-2008, 03:33 PM	#43
Minister of Silly Walks Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,822 Thanks: 635 Thanked 726 Times in 408 Posts Points: 78,450.32 Bank: 161,394.34 Total Points: 239,844.66 Donate	I still like The Simpsons. It's not as good as it once was, but I still enjoy watching it. I also love Futurama, I find it hilarious. Family Guy, on the other hand, bugs the crap out of me. I used to like it, but the humor of the show just got so very old after a while.

07-11-2008, 03:55 PM	#44
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,932 Thanks: 77 Thanked 226 Times in 157 Posts Points: 15,004.81 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 15,004.81 Donate	The definitive jumping the shark moment for me was when they retconned the past to happen in the 90's. On the Simpsons, that is. It was one of the best, but there was no way it could stay good forever. That'd be impossible.

07-11-2008, 07:52 PM	#45
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,990 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 23,782.11 Bank: 788.45 Total Points: 24,570.56 Donate	'Last Exit to Springfield' should be taught in film studies for how perfect it is. Season 4. Everything from season 2 - 8, in my opinion, is gold, although you can notice the progressive changes to the series. Changes which, ultimately, would stagnate everything. The simpsons turned from the - most - realistic - depiction of family life in a sitcom (putting crap like the Waltons and Family Matters to shame, and only met by say, Roseanne) despite being a cartoon. The early episodes were almost serious if not for the wit. There was a comparason made in a review of the SImpsons' position nowadays between the days when you would see an episode end with Homer and Marge riding off in the sunset on a bicycle to Homer taking Marge out with a blowgun dart to the neck. When was the last time you can remember that cartoon being touching? Gal - how can you not like it!? I'm curious. You're like some kind of strange phenomenon to me, because insofar as I know, you're not too young to fully appreciate all the subtleties in the series.

07-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#46
Bomby Condescending Film Jerk Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,389 Thanks: 231 Thanked 680 Times in 431 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 5,894.35 Bank: 3,818,064.96 Total Points: 3,823,959.32 Donate	The Simpsons went downhill after they stopped trying to appeal to blue collar audiences and switched the focus from character-based stories to zany antics to appeal to a wider audience. It's called switching from narrowcasting to broadcasting.

07-11-2008, 08:06 PM	#47
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,990 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 23,782.11 Bank: 788.45 Total Points: 24,570.56 Donate	Or good to suck Never again will we hear "Hey we're just like the Waltons. We're both praying for an end to the Depression."

07-11-2008, 08:31 PM	#48
Chunky Kong12345 WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!? Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,146 Thanks: 64 Thanked 339 Times in 242 Posts Points: 4,906.68 Bank: 185,271.29 Total Points: 190,177.97 Donate	smite the unbelievers

07-11-2008, 08:46 PM	#49
Vapor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Betwen the Iron Gates of Fate Gender: Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 127 Thanked 197 Times in 137 Posts Points: 10,031.02 Bank: 48,770.56 Total Points: 58,801.58 Donate	Last time I saw an episode of Family Guy, I found it funny...like....6% of the time.

07-11-2008, 10:27 PM	#50
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,414 Thanks: 79 Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts Points: 5,605.20 Bank: 4,943.33 Total Points: 10,548.53 Donate	I don't know why but for some reason I want to blame Parker and Stone for both Southpark and simpsons going downhill at breakneck speed. Bah must be all the caiffien I drink. - You stupid dog!

07-12-2008, 10:50 AM	#52
Minister of Silly Walks Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,822 Thanks: 635 Thanked 726 Times in 408 Posts Points: 78,450.32 Bank: 161,394.34 Total Points: 239,844.66 Donate	Gale, you should check out some of the older episodes, like Erdawn said, Seasons 2-8. Seriously. I understand that you already have an opinion, but I think you should at least try to see what we're saying.

07-12-2008, 11:32 AM	#53
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,990 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 23,782.11 Bank: 788.45 Total Points: 24,570.56 Donate	Yeah man. And I mean go for seasons 2-3 specifically to get what we're talking about. And 4. Start with the early, early ones.

07-12-2008, 02:50 PM	#54
Jigsaw Hello, VGF. I want to play a game... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ha ha ha ha ha... Gender: Posts: 6,050 Thanks: 742 Thanked 442 Times in 321 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 2,557.05 Bank: 25,844.13 Total Points: 28,401.18 Donate	Sure thing. I'll give 'em a try.

07-12-2008, 04:15 PM	#55
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 8,814 Thanks: 46 Thanked 60 Times in 52 Posts Points: 30,686.56 Bank: 1,640.52 Total Points: 32,327.08 Donate	I liked The Simpsons when I was a kid, now it's just ridiculous. Futurama blew The Simpsons outta the water, IMO. The last episode of The Simpson I watched was...hm, the one where Homer cuts off his finger, puts it in pickle juice, gets drunk and...I forgot what happend after that. I just don't like the show anymore. Futurama was a stroke of genius, I seen all the episodes but I need to see that new Bender movie.

07-12-2008, 04:27 PM	#56
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,414 Thanks: 79 Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts Points: 5,605.20 Bank: 4,943.33 Total Points: 10,548.53 Donate	Bender's big Score is great, as for the new movie, the Beast with a Billion backs I want to see it but don't know if it's any good. - You stupid dog!

07-12-2008, 04:40 PM	#57
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 8,814 Thanks: 46 Thanked 60 Times in 52 Posts Points: 30,686.56 Bank: 1,640.52 Total Points: 32,327.08 Donate	What's that other movie you mentioned, PK? Another Futurama movie?

07-12-2008, 05:26 PM	#58
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,932 Thanks: 77 Thanked 226 Times in 157 Posts Points: 15,004.81 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 15,004.81 Donate	Futurama can't touch the original Simpsons episodes, sorry. And as for blowing the new ones out of the water, practically anything can do that. The Simpsons merely became too accustomed to being #1 to actually defend itself with good episodes anymore. A similar effect killed Sonic, just much, much faster.

07-12-2008, 05:51 PM	#59
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,414 Thanks: 79 Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts Points: 5,605.20 Bank: 4,943.33 Total Points: 10,548.53 Donate	"The Beast with a billion backs" The second of three direct to DVD Futurama movies that when split up into half hour episodes form the newest season of said show. I though it was Sega Pulling a Capcom with the Sonic games that caused that? - You stupid dog!

07-12-2008, 09:10 PM	#60
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,932 Thanks: 77 Thanked 226 Times in 157 Posts Points: 15,004.81 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 15,004.81 Donate	Not enough Sonic games for it to really be a capcom; instead of dividing it up into many separate series they just sorta made one bad series.