Downloading Unlicensed Anime

What's everyone's opinion of this? Basically, unlicensed anime is stuff that has aired (or is airing) in Japan and has not yet been licensed by a company that will distribute or air it here in North America (or Europe, etc).

Fans record the episodes as they show on TV and subtitle it, letting other fans who can't see it for free. The subtitling and the fan distribution stops when the anime is licensed for US release.

There's a LOT of good stuff that doesn't show up here, hasn't shown up here, and probably won't be for a long time. For example, Naruto, Getbackers, Scrapped Princess....

Of course, the problem is that people usually keep the episodes even after it has been licensed in the US. You're not supposed to, of course.

What's everyone's opinion on this? Do you take part in it?

Am I even allowed to link people to fansubbing sites? O_O()

[Dark Chaos...again.]

Why shouldn't we be allowed to?

How else will I get my One Piece fix?

I usually download episodes of stuff after they're in the US. The only exception so far is DBGT.

[ November 15, 2003, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: KirbyKing ]

One Piece has been licensed already, though! O_o *twitch*

......Okay, I see you guys are fine with it. XD;; Hoooy.

I'll put up a few links, and then take them down if anyone objects, then.

Remember! GO FOR NARUTO AND GETBACKERS!

www.animesuki.com <--- It's basically like a database hub thingy for all the possible subbed and unlicensed anime that is out there.

Bittorrent is necessary to download episodes.

http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ <-- Bittorrent

[Dark Chaos...again.]

*Checks licensed anime list*

How long has Funimation had One Piece?

Since.... this summer or spring, I think.

Bittorrent is way faster than d/ling them of iMesh at least... >_>

Sure. I downloaded all of Flame of Recca fansubbed a while back. Great series, I really hope the anime makes it to the US. The manga has, but it seems like it's being translated at a snail's pace.

hey, apparently Viz licensed the anime too. I think FoR would fit in great on Adult Swim..

It's a violation of copyright laws, a clever little trick that pirates invented to excuse their illegal conducts.

[ November 15, 2003, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: Cirvante ]

Well, that is the issue here. @.@ No one has really complained about it before, I think.

[Lurch1982]

Eh, one of my friends would buy fansubs of DBZ and DBGT from this Asian market in New Orleans East. This was back in like 1994-98. (94 was the DBZs, rest of it was GT)

[Lurch1982]

regardless though, its annoying what some companies do to licenses (coughHARMONYGOLDcoughMACROSScough). Thanks to Harmony Gold smothering US distribution of a few of the Macross series and Movies, I cannot get them in the states BECAUSE they only want to distribute it as the hack-and-splice-three-animes-together Robotech. Sure, Robotech still kicks ass, but I'd really like to see some non-****ty quality Macross.

[Kargath]

Originally posted by Cirvante:
It's a violation of copyright laws, a clever little trick that pirates invented to excuse their illegal conducts.

Yup - piracy sucks. Pirates leech off the common consumer, driving prices up and making ADV and the like even LESS likely to relase the DVDs in western territories. Distro companies will always pick up series in demand - why would they want to miss out on selling to a market as big as the US? Just 'cause you don't get the fully subbed, dubbed and featured version a week after the Jap release doesn't mean you should become a leech yourself.

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The only alternative asides from not watching fansubs and not watching them until they come here (O_O()) is to buy actual pirated stuff. ~_~() Which.... is worse than fansubbing. Now that is definitely bad, in my opinion. They're ripping both the company off and buyers off as well.

And eat up bandwidth, which cripples users on your network using the internet for legitimate reasons, forcing ISPs to increase their monthly service fees to accommodate your illegal activities. Your self-serving reasoning can be applied to download of fansubs of licensed but not released anime as well.

There's importation of animes. No one said that Japanese companies wouldn't sell their videos abroad.

[ November 16, 2003, 05:43 PM: Message edited by: Cirvante ]

^-- That's true. But most of them don't subtitle their work. @_@() Which means you watch RAWs. And even though I've tried that before... it's, ah, incredibly hard?

In other words, expedience at the expense of others.

Having an internect connection gives you the right to use it as often as you'd like. :/ Perhaps not in all the ways you'd like, but that's a seperate issue. It's a matter of being considerate then. One can download during the late hours at night (or early hours of morning, depending on how you see it) when very few people use the internet as to not slow down the connection. ^^

People who don't download anime may be doing other things that take up just as much bandwith. @_@() Hoofa.

By the same argument, having a CD burner, a VCR recorder, and a video capture card all entitles one to use them as often as possible. In other words, the distribution of pirated material through CDs while earning a profit selling them is as justified as downloading them through p2p networks--that is, illegal. To go one another extreme, having a gun entitles one to use it as much as one wants, but if all who felt it useful engaged in activities analogous to what you are doing in the video industry, the tax required to civil order impedes all possibilities of social mobility except downward.

Self: Having an internect connection gives you the right to use it as often as you'd like. :/ Perhaps not in all the ways you'd like

By my arguement, it would be legal for you to go out and use a gun as much as you want to use it (go to the shooting ranges, sure. Perhaps not in al the WAYS (like shooting people, or deer on an off season, etc) you'd like to.

It'd be better if you argued using gambling as your example, which would then fault my earlier statement. [img]tongue.gif[/img] But that's just a totally different issue.