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Old 11-19-2003, 09:44 PM   #1
 
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*Such as "*********," designed by Fred Gallagher(?).

Do you consider it "real" Anime/Manga, albeit it may not appear to be the genuine article? What is the genuine article, anyway? Should Anime merely be classified as "cartoon created in Japan?"

Discuss, I guess.
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Old 11-19-2003, 09:47 PM   #2
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Anime is just cartoon that's produced in Japan. For that reason, I see it in the same light as any other cartoon--to be judged on an individual basis. This also provides easy distinctions should someone ask specifically about anime.
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:54 PM   #3
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Anime/Manga is a style, so I don't think it has to be specifically Japanese. There's something deeper about it than being just a cartoon, though. ********* is definitely a manga. However, that stupid girl spy thing on TeleToon is a very, VERY bad imitation of Anime. ~____________~() EVIL.
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:53 AM   #4
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Anime tends to be more pretentious than non-Japanese cartoon. That is true. However, American cartoons tend to have insightful social satire, which ends up being "deeper" than the empty words of most anime.

There is no consistent style in anime, even those produced in Japan. There is little correspondence between the likes of Astro Boy and Trigun, and something like Fist of the North Star is fundamentally different from something like Spirited Away.

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Old 11-20-2003, 03:20 AM   #5
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There are different genres in anime, of course, which would then seperate all these series which are radically different from each other. You can have totally dark and serious ones, or lighthearted romance.... but at any point, there's a way of presenting the whole thing... I'm not sure how to explain it. There tend to be some silent, quiet and serious moments, even in funny, dopey anime... parts without much dialogue, just quiet music in the background (FLCL, Lain, Escaflowne, Bebop, there are all moments O_o) they're not afraid to do that. You'll always find exceptions to this, of course.
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:57 AM   #6
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There are quiet, enlightening moments on shows such as South Park and the Simpsons. Exceptions are not unique to anime.
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Old 11-20-2003, 06:48 PM   #7
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Teen Titan is not really qan anime, but it was done by an American and has like anime facial expressions and stuff.
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:11 PM   #8
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I SAID there were exceptions, T-K. *pounds your head* [img]tongue.gif[/img] It just seems to happen more in anime, is all.
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:15 PM   #9
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A fleeting moment such as those existing in a TV show is more the rule than the exception.
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:50 PM   #10
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You so noisy. [img]tongue.gif[/img] *ziplocks your mouth*
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Old 11-20-2003, 09:10 PM   #11
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I can't help but interrupt when I see such thoughtless comments.
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Old 11-20-2003, 10:09 PM   #12
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The only "American" cartoon I've seen in the last two years that really has good satire was South Park, and I personally liked it more when it didn't revolve around politics the whole time.

I bet that there's a good amount of satire in anime/manga but we don't get it because, well, we're American.

Did you know that a lot of American cartoons are made in Korea?
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Old 11-20-2003, 11:38 PM   #13
 
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Well, I understand the difference between actual anime and anime-inspired animation, but I just lump them all together anyhow. It doesn't really matter to me where a show comes from.
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Old 11-21-2003, 02:05 AM   #14
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Transformers is American, isn't it? The original series seems like anime to me...
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Old 11-21-2003, 11:34 AM   #15
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The original series is American, but I'm pretty sure that Armada is Japanese.
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:06 PM   #16
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^-- Yup!
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Old 11-22-2003, 02:21 PM   #17
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If it looks like it and can be passed off as it, it is.
Wasn't the Dirty Pair originally English?

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Old 11-22-2003, 05:04 PM   #18
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I'm pretty sure Dirty Pair is Japanese, actually. That one show....G-Force, I think? With the five people in bird suits? It was American, and I actually liked it.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:51 PM   #19
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Anime is classified by what you see it as. Here in America, we (or at least I) see Japanese cartons as "anime". However, in Japan, many see American cartoons as "anime", while they call their own cartoons, well, "cartoons". Basically, any anime/cartoon or manga/comic with a distinct style similar to the Japanese anime can be classified as "anime" here. This includes American-made anime such as Teen Titans.

Assuming the style originated in Japan, all Japanese anime style shall henceforth be called "true" anime from here on, while non-Japanese style will simply be called "anime".

There are exceptions. "Totally Spies", while it is drawn and CG'd in an anime drawing style, you can tell the show is in no way "true". So, true anime style is not only how it is drawn. As with any worldwide popularity, seeing a style is not always a very accurate way of distinguishing it from other versions of the same thing. The feel to a true anime is different from an American anime: Usually there's a much deeper plot in true anime, while "anime" seems to rely too much on the staple materializing hammers and sweatdrops, which are an important yet superficial part of Japanese anime. In Teen Titans, several episodes go deep into storylines, like when Cyborg is almost turned into a tyical 'bot. In Totally Spies, everything is about whether to use the red lipstick or the blue one.

It's not to say that American-made, or even American-produced, anime sucks. Some American manga drawers, like Fred Gallagher (*********), draw very interesting manga. So in a way, there are exceptions to exceptions.

All in all, many American made mangas/animes are okay. Many, but not all.

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Old 11-23-2003, 02:55 PM   #20
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Moreover, you're right ^_~
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