Loony Tune of the week: A Tale of Two Kitties!

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-04-2007, 10:47 AM

Two crazy cats try to eat the bird in Tweety's big debut.

-CSM

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 10-04-2007, 04:15 PM

Ah, Yes. Tweety's Debut (Although at the time his name was "Orson" named after Orson Wells.) It was indeed the first cartoon that had the "Cat goes after the bird" style, and it was one of two (Maybe) that had two cats go after tweety at the same time, second time was where the cats would be competetivly going after the bird.

This was the first cartoon that used the "Pitty" gag. And is laden with World War 2 gags (The Air Raid Warden, Victory Garden).

This cartoon also showed to me that the "finger" existed in the 40s. (I Laughed when I first heard it years later)

And, if this wasn't already obvious, it is the first of 3 Cartoons where "Orson" would be Nude, and have a sadistic nature.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-05-2007, 02:58 AM

^The cartoons where Tweety could be considered "Orson" were all directed by Bob Clampett. When Clampett left, Fritz Freeling gave Tweety his yellow feathers and toned him down to make him much less aggressive. Also, it was Freeling who paired Tweety with Sylvester, not Clampett. To be honest, I find Clampett's Tweety to be both cuter and funnier. -CSM

Microphone_Kirby · 10-06-2007, 12:11 PM

I loved Tweety's (was he really named Orson at the time?) "agressive" nature in this cartoon.
I miss the bloodthirsty Tweety (Orson?) compaired to the "toned-down" version (as CSM accurately put it).

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 10-07-2007, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^The cartoons where Tweety could be considered "Orson" were all directed by Bob Clampett. When Clampett left, Fritz Freeling gave Tweety his yellow feathers and toned him down to make him much less aggressive. Also, it was Freeling who paired Tweety with Sylvester, not Clampett. To be honest, I find Clampett's Tweety to be both cuter and funnier. -CSM

Sure, Now we believe Clampett's Tweety was better.

But when Tweety (Modern Tweety of course) and Sylvester get you an Oscar, are you gonna change back?

Plus I do believe (Unless Toon Heads was lying to me) that Censors actually demanded that Tweety wore at least one article of clothing, or at least color him differently. I guess Freling didn't want Tweety to be like Bugs and Daffy, so he changed the bird's personality.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-07-2007, 04:40 PM

^Tweety isn't like Bugs or Daffy at all.

Bugs isn't violent, he outwits his opponents verbally, and they may be indirectly harmed by his actions.

Daffy is more of an antihero who is more misunderstood (although this was the Chuck Jones Daffy; Avery and McKimson had much more Bugs-ish Daffies).

Tweety is an adorable and inherently violent and defensive character. There's a difference between all three. -CSM

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 10-07-2007, 08:04 PM

^ Ok, Ok, you win. I ain't a Cartoon Geek. I just watched the Cartoons for years and years, and am generating a Conversation here, ok?

Anyway, I guess I don't know why they made Tweety less Sadistic...

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-07-2007, 09:46 PM

^Probably because of the censors and because Friz Freleng wasn't exactly the violent one (Chuck Jones was). -CSM

10-04-2007, 04:15 PM	#2
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10-05-2007, 02:58 AM	#3
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10-06-2007, 12:11 PM	#4
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Gender: Posts: 5,568 Thanks: 330 Thanked 175 Times in 144 Posts Points: 393.66 Bank: 49,352.59 Total Points: 49,746.25 Donate	I loved Tweety's (was he really named Orson at the time?) "agressive" nature in this cartoon. I miss the bloodthirsty Tweety (Orson?) compaired to the "toned-down" version (as CSM accurately put it).

10-07-2007, 04:40 PM	#6
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10-07-2007, 08:04 PM	#7
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,370 Thanks: 275 Thanked 598 Times in 441 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 8,859.22 Bank: 84,072.49 Total Points: 92,931.71 Donate	^ Ok, Ok, you win. I ain't a Cartoon Geek. I just watched the Cartoons for years and years, and am generating a Conversation here, ok? Anyway, I guess I don't know why they made Tweety less Sadistic...

10-07-2007, 09:46 PM	#8
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