Goku: Who's stronger than him?!

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-12-2008, 07:09 PM

I have this nerdy opinion that Goku is the strongest character ever. Who thinks there's one who can beat him (Super Saiyan 4)? No invincible or immortal characters. No one like Ganodorf who can only be affected via Master Sword or anyone who can kill in one shot like Light Yagami. OR anyone with similar unbeatable-ish powers or certain special powers. I'll decide if the character can count or not. If too many disagree on my call we can vote. This should be kinda fun.

PSYCHOKID909 · 06-12-2008, 07:20 PM

Gohan, his beating Cell was ment to be the end of DBZ.

Ness from Mother2/Eathbound is also in the running.

- You stupid dog!

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 06-12-2008, 07:35 PM

I don't wanna argue but since Goku is also unbeatable-ish, all the choices people make will be based on thier personal preferences?

Anyway......

1. Batman

2. Iron Man (WELL, I LIKE TO THINK SO!)

3. Punch to the Face [/joke]

Get a new Kirby today! · 06-12-2008, 10:28 PM

OVER 9000 people.

X-3 · 06-12-2008, 10:43 PM

Ganon could beat Goku.

Ganon can be beaten without the Master Sword. Hazzah! I take your puny rules, and I bend them to my liking.

Galefore · 06-13-2008, 01:59 AM

Ganondorf would stomp all over anybody from DBZ, because although he himself is known for yelling before he fires his lazer, he is still ten times more badass.

But if your nerd opinion calls for a stronger character than Goku, I'll go with Himura the Batosai. Speed, power, and aggressiveness in his Batosai form lead him to greatness. In terms of twice as badass with no remorse, it's definitely Hajime Saito.

All aside, the entire Kouga clan from Basilisk is strong enough to whoop Goku, as is Kefka. I'll also slip in that there's a character in Spiderman called Morlun who would likely whip Goku, since Morlun was pretty unstoppable.

PSYCHOKID909 · 06-13-2008, 02:11 AM

How could I forget the king of all evil clowns?!

- You stupid dog!

Luigiman777 · 06-13-2008, 09:47 AM

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 06-13-2008, 09:55 AM

Superman is just made of lame and fail. Batman is where it's at.

...That wasn't entirely related to the topic at hand, though.

DELICIOUS POISON · 06-13-2008, 10:06 AM

Onslaught or X-man, take your pick.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2008, 11:48 AM

But I'm talking GT Goku so he beats any Gohan. Bat Man is cool but is just a normal dude with gadgets, so he fails. Super Man? In the movie he could barely lift that mountain/island whereas when Goku fought Pikon in the otherworld tournament, the power from their fight alone destroyed nearby planet-things. Supes goes down easy. I dunno Xman, Onslaught or anyone Hiroyuki mentioned so to be fair, state their strongest feat for me. Iron Man? Iron iMan has the Bat Man problem.

Ness is not so quick and relies on items. Ganon/dorf, if killable without a Master Sword or other special item, would die easy.

X-3 · 06-13-2008, 12:02 PM

I disagree with the Superman thing. He can sneeze and destroy a universe.

Plus, what Superman are we talking about?

Also, Doomsday.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2008, 12:49 PM

Ha, I doubt it's been shown hisneeze has such power cause, God forbid he has a wicked bowel movement...Which Super Man? The Super one I guess. Doomsday? Ha, he's a ***** too. Supes f*cked him up one time so their powers don't match up to DBZ powers. Goku can teleport moving at the speed of light making him faster and Vegeta with like a 18,000 power level easily destroyed planets (18,000 is nothing by GT standards) so beating SSj4 Goku is gonna be hard, these Marvel guys probably cant touch Chiaotzu!

X-3 · 06-13-2008, 12:54 PM

Super ****ed him up? No, no, no.

First, Doomsday emerged and beat up all of the Justice League with one arm tied behind his back in a matter of minutes. Then, he fought Superman, and both were killed after a long struggle.

Also, Superman's sneeze is WICKED. Apparently.

And by "which Superman", I literally mean WHICH SUPERMAN. There's movie Superman, animated Superman, comics Superman...hell, comics Superman has it's own little subcategories of sorts.

1-up salesman · 06-13-2008, 12:59 PM

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If you consider the Justice League a bunch of dorks like Booster Gold, and Fire and Ice.

Goku versus Superman.... FAN-FIC TIME

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2008, 01:15 PM

1. My point, X-3, is that Supes was not helpless vs Doomsday, which means, since Supes is easily beaten via Goku, Doomsday would take little more effort. 2. Which Supes? For his sake, the strongest one! Maybe I better even this topic out a bit & bust Goku down to Kaioken or even normal form so someone has a chance

X-3 · 06-13-2008, 01:24 PM

Since when is Superman easily beaten by Goku?

Heh, this is bringing back memories of a V.S. thread back on NSider. Good times.

Also, Sargeras is pretty damn strong.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2008, 01:50 PM

Nsider? On Nintendo's site? I was a snotty little brat (I was like that till I was 13) when I joined up there but can't remember if I ever really posted. Anyway, when Goku uses a Solar Flash and blinds him, uses Instant Transmission in his face and uses a Kamehameha disintigrating the poor bastard. I watched a lot of ol' Supes' cartoon and watched the movies and never seen someone do what Goku can. Supes fought talking monkeys and Lex Luthor, some regular jerk. Very scary vs Jenemba or Kid Buu, I'm sure...

BTW, who's Sargeras?

X-3 · 06-13-2008, 01:59 PM

Would that even be enough to kill Super?

Sargeras - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2008, 02:13 PM

Well, let's compare their strength. What is the MOST damage Super Man ever inflicted via laser eyes, punches and ice breath? Also, what power was strong enough to badly hurt/kill Supes? Hypothetical Example: Let's say Supes can't break a cement wall or a grenade nearly killed him. Since Goku can break cement easily & Kamehameha can destroy planets, it would say Goku is greater. Course Supes is stronger than THAT but give evidence of his feats and what killed him to compare the 2.

06-12-2008, 07:09 PM	#1
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06-12-2008, 10:43 PM	#5
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06-13-2008, 11:48 AM	#11
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,092 Thanks: 83 Thanked 87 Times in 74 Posts Points: 3,832.24 Bank: 42,934.36 Total Points: 46,766.60 Donate	Stop bending my rules to your whim :p But I'm talking GT Goku so he beats any Gohan. Bat Man is cool but is just a normal dude with gadgets, so he fails. Super Man? In the movie he could barely lift that mountain/island whereas when Goku fought Pikon in the otherworld tournament, the power from their fight alone destroyed nearby planet-things. Supes goes down easy. I dunno Xman, Onslaught or anyone Hiroyuki mentioned so to be fair, state their strongest feat for me. Iron Man? Iron iMan has the Bat Man problem. Ness is not so quick and relies on items. Ganon/dorf, if killable without a Master Sword or other special item, would die easy. Last edited by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!; 06-13-2008 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Forgot to make a smartass remark

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PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,483 Thanks: 91 Thanked 46 Times in 39 Posts Points: 7,272.49 Bank: 7,642.28 Total Points: 14,914.77 Donate	Gohan, his beating Cell was ment to be the end of DBZ. Ness from Mother2/Eathbound is also in the running. - You stupid dog!

06-12-2008, 07:35 PM	#3
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Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Blank Planet Gender: Posts: 6,149 Thanks: 768 Thanked 460 Times in 335 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 4,140.14 Bank: 34,789.24 Total Points: 38,929.38 Donate	Ganondorf would stomp all over anybody from DBZ, because although he himself is known for yelling before he fires his lazer, he is still ten times more badass. But if your nerd opinion calls for a stronger character than Goku, I'll go with Himura the Batosai. Speed, power, and aggressiveness in his Batosai form lead him to greatness. In terms of twice as badass with no remorse, it's definitely Hajime Saito. All aside, the entire Kouga clan from Basilisk is strong enough to whoop Goku, as is Kefka. I'll also slip in that there's a character in Spiderman called Morlun who would likely whip Goku, since Morlun was pretty unstoppable.

06-13-2008, 02:11 AM	#7
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06-13-2008, 12:02 PM	#12
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06-13-2008, 12:49 PM	#13
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,092 Thanks: 83 Thanked 87 Times in 74 Posts Points: 3,832.24 Bank: 42,934.36 Total Points: 46,766.60 Donate	Ha, I doubt it's been shown hisneeze has such power cause, God forbid he has a wicked bowel movement...Which Super Man? The Super one I guess. Doomsday? Ha, he's a ***** too. Supes f*cked him up one time so their powers don't match up to DBZ powers. Goku can teleport moving at the speed of light making him faster and Vegeta with like a 18,000 power level easily destroyed planets (18,000 is nothing by GT standards) so beating SSj4 Goku is gonna be hard, these Marvel guys probably cant touch Chiaotzu!

06-13-2008, 12:54 PM	#14
X-3 Runic Lightning Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Inside the dark soul of mankind. Gender: Posts: 10,090 Thanks: 367 Thanked 445 Times in 325 Posts Blog Entries: 5 Points: 20,402.93 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 20,402.93 Donate	Super ****ed him up? No, no, no. First, Doomsday emerged and beat up all of the Justice League with one arm tied behind his back in a matter of minutes. Then, he fought Superman, and both were killed after a long struggle. Also, Superman's sneeze is WICKED. Apparently. And by "which Superman", I literally mean WHICH SUPERMAN. There's movie Superman, animated Superman, comics Superman...hell, comics Superman has it's own little subcategories of sorts.

06-13-2008, 01:15 PM	#16
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,092 Thanks: 83 Thanked 87 Times in 74 Posts Points: 3,832.24 Bank: 42,934.36 Total Points: 46,766.60 Donate	1. My point, X-3, is that Supes was not helpless vs Doomsday, which means, since Supes is easily beaten via Goku, Doomsday would take little more effort. 2. Which Supes? For his sake, the strongest one! Maybe I better even this topic out a bit & bust Goku down to Kaioken or even normal form so someone has a chance

06-13-2008, 01:24 PM	#17
X-3 Runic Lightning Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Inside the dark soul of mankind. Gender: Posts: 10,090 Thanks: 367 Thanked 445 Times in 325 Posts Blog Entries: 5 Points: 20,402.93 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 20,402.93 Donate	Since when is Superman easily beaten by Goku? Heh, this is bringing back memories of a V.S. thread back on NSider. Good times. Also, Sargeras is pretty damn strong. Last edited by X-3; 06-13-2008 at 01:31 PM.

06-13-2008, 01:50 PM	#18
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,092 Thanks: 83 Thanked 87 Times in 74 Posts Points: 3,832.24 Bank: 42,934.36 Total Points: 46,766.60 Donate	Nsider? On Nintendo's site? I was a snotty little brat (I was like that till I was 13) when I joined up there but can't remember if I ever really posted. Anyway, when Goku uses a Solar Flash and blinds him, uses Instant Transmission in his face and uses a Kamehameha disintigrating the poor bastard. I watched a lot of ol' Supes' cartoon and watched the movies and never seen someone do what Goku can. Supes fought talking monkeys and Lex Luthor, some regular jerk. Very scary vs Jenemba or Kid Buu, I'm sure... BTW, who's Sargeras? Last edited by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!; 06-13-2008 at 01:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

06-13-2008, 01:59 PM	#19
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06-13-2008, 02:13 PM	#20
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,092 Thanks: 83 Thanked 87 Times in 74 Posts Points: 3,832.24 Bank: 42,934.36 Total Points: 46,766.60 Donate	How do we know it's enough? Easy... Well, let's compare their strength. What is the MOST damage Super Man ever inflicted via laser eyes, punches and ice breath? Also, what power was strong enough to badly hurt/kill Supes? Hypothetical Example: Let's say Supes can't break a cement wall or a grenade nearly killed him. Since Goku can break cement easily & Kamehameha can destroy planets, it would say Goku is greater. Course Supes is stronger than THAT but give evidence of his feats and what killed him to compare the 2.