Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup

Pixelated Penguin · 06-17-2010, 07:03 PM

I used to hate roguelikes - and I still hate NetHack - but I have fallen in love with this game.
IMO, this is the best roguelike out of any I've ever played, (NH, ADOM, Angband, Spleunky, ZapM), by FAR. It's quite well-balanced (you basically can't scum at all) but also so brutally difficult that it makes NetHack look easy. Everything about this game shines - the religion system, that different races play very differently, the magic system, and all the awesome items you can find.
If you like roguelikes and haven't played this, you need to. RIGHT NOW.

For those of you who have played it: Have you ever beaten it?
I once got 2/3 runes (Swamp and Snake Pit) as a Naga Wizard, and then died somewhere in the Vaults to a nasty combination of a Daeva and a yaktaur captain.
That death was completely avoidable, too, but I got greedy and didn't 'waste' a potion of heal wounds. That causes a lot of my deaths, actually.

**Valigarmander** · 06-17-2010, 07:11 PM

I've been replaying ADOM lately. Maybe I'll give this one a go.

Prince Toad · 06-18-2010, 10:01 AM

I do love ADOM, though I can't play it anymore since my laptop doesn't have a numpad. I was also addicted to Desktop Dungeons for a while (please, DO NOT play that-- it's pretty crappy and heavily addictive, in no way worth it). Does this one require a numpad? If not I'll check it out.

**Valigarmander** · 06-18-2010, 03:45 PM

^ ADOM has worked well with me without a numpad. As far as movement I just use the arrow keys, and if I have to move diagonally or something I'll use the regular number key (7 is northwest, 1 is southwest, 5 is idle, etc.)

DrJordo · 06-18-2010, 04:36 PM

I used to play this, though I never got very far. I think my best was floor 10 with a troll. It's the most fun I've ever had with a rougelike (and that's saying something, since I usually don't like them).

Prince Toad · 06-18-2010, 04:57 PM

^^Buh. I could do that. I'm just afraid I'll get confused and die all the time. I do love me some ADOM though... if I get really bored I'll download it.

Pixelated Penguin · 06-18-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince Toad

I do love ADOM, though I can't play it anymore since my laptop doesn't have a numpad. I was also addicted to Desktop Dungeons for a while (please, DO NOT play that-- it's pretty crappy and heavily addictive, in no way worth it). Does this one require a numpad? If not I'll check it out.

Nope -- vikeys (hjklyubn) is the default control scheme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrJordo

I used to play this, though I never got very far. I think my best was floor 10 with a troll. It's the most fun I've ever had with a rougelike (and that's saying something, since I usually don't like them).

Oh, yeah - I occasionally play Troll Beserkers, but they're just so... straightforward. Not as fun for me as a spellcaster. And I usually don't like roguelikes either... go figure.

Prince Toad · 06-19-2010, 04:07 AM

Oh, that's good. Alright, I'll probably give it a shot.

edit: Yeah, I've downloaded it and been playing. It's pretty good, easier to figure out than ADOM since it has graphics and mouse commands. Also I love the auto-explore. Not sure I actually like it better than ADOM but at least I can play it fairly comfortably without a numpad. (I did give up on learning the stupid Rogue controls though, I just use the arrow keys, plus the mouse if I have to move diagonally.)

For some ****ing reason though, I can't find a way to view the file of your dead character. Also, since hitting any key twice takes you past the death screen, probably my best character just died and I have no ****ing reason why. ****ing infuriating. That alone makes ADOM a lot better.

06-17-2010, 07:03 PM	#1
Pixelated Penguin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Gender: Posts: 199 Thanks: 26 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup I used to hate roguelikes - and I still hate NetHack - but I have fallen in love with this game. IMO, this is the best roguelike out of any I've ever played, (NH, ADOM, Angband, Spleunky, ZapM), by FAR. It's quite well-balanced (you basically can't scum at all) but also so brutally difficult that it makes NetHack look easy. Everything about this game shines - the religion system, that different races play very differently, the magic system, and all the awesome items you can find. If you like roguelikes and haven't played this, you need to. RIGHT NOW. For those of you who have played it: Have you ever beaten it? I once got 2/3 runes (Swamp and Snake Pit) as a Naga Wizard, and then died somewhere in the Vaults to a nasty combination of a Daeva and a yaktaur captain. That death was completely avoidable, too, but I got greedy and didn't 'waste' a potion of heal wounds. That causes a lot of my deaths, actually.

06-19-2010, 04:07 AM	#8
Prince Toad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,720 Thanks: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 56 Posts	Oh, that's good. Alright, I'll probably give it a shot. edit: Yeah, I've downloaded it and been playing. It's pretty good, easier to figure out than ADOM since it has graphics and mouse commands. Also I love the auto-explore. Not sure I actually like it better than ADOM but at least I can play it fairly comfortably without a numpad. (I did give up on learning the stupid Rogue controls though, I just use the arrow keys, plus the mouse if I have to move diagonally.) For some **ing reason though, I can't find a way to view the file of your dead character. Also, since hitting any key twice takes you past the death screen, probably my best character just died and I have no ing reason why. *ing infuriating. That alone makes ADOM a lot better. Last edited by Prince Toad; 06-30-2010 at 04:05 PM.*

06-17-2010, 07:11 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,754 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I've been replaying ADOM lately. Maybe I'll give this one a go.

06-18-2010, 10:01 AM	#3
Prince Toad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,720 Thanks: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 56 Posts	I do love ADOM, though I can't play it anymore since my laptop doesn't have a numpad. I was also addicted to Desktop Dungeons for a while (please, DO NOT play that-- it's pretty crappy and heavily addictive, in no way worth it). Does this one require a numpad? If not I'll check it out.

06-18-2010, 03:45 PM	#4
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,754 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ ADOM has worked well with me without a numpad. As far as movement I just use the arrow keys, and if I have to move diagonally or something I'll use the regular number key (7 is northwest, 1 is southwest, 5 is idle, etc.)

06-18-2010, 04:36 PM	#5
DrJordo Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: _____ Gender: Posts: 985 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I used to play this, though I never got very far. I think my best was floor 10 with a troll. It's the most fun I've ever had with a rougelike (and that's saying something, since I usually don't like them).

06-18-2010, 04:57 PM	#6
Prince Toad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,720 Thanks: 50 Thanked 65 Times in 56 Posts	^^Buh. I could do that. I'm just afraid I'll get confused and die all the time. I do love me some ADOM though... if I get really bored I'll download it.