Heroes of Newerth

Fairlight Excalibur · 05-15-2011, 07:31 PM

Anyone here play it? Is it worth buying? How different is it from DotA? Is it better than DotA? Is the community really as bad as the reviews say?

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 05-15-2011, 07:35 PM

HoN is tedious as hell. I dislike the **** out of it.

1-up Salesman · 05-15-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT

HoN is tedious as hell. I dislike the **** out of it.

Well, hell is pretty tedious. I mean, you get tortured over, and over, and over. I'd like some variety in my gameplay.

Jere · 05-15-2011, 07:41 PM

My ansver goes as following:

I haven't played lot's of Heroes of Neverth Really but i have played lot's of Leage of Legends!

You do the math!

Fairlight Excalibur · 05-15-2011, 07:54 PM

I have never seen League of Legends, though I have heard it described as a very childish version of HoN.

EDIT: How exactly is it tedious? If you mean requiring lots of micro, then yeah, I would expect that just like in DotA.

Jere · 05-16-2011, 01:59 AM

would not say it's childis it's more easygoing and is not as serius as it's earlyer counterpart and HoN.

Then they have a great lore, and a relativley well balanced character rooster (still could use a tweak or two).

Basicly don't say no to it before you try it.

heh · 05-16-2011, 07:29 AM

HON and LOL are both solid games but the community is terrible for both. it is as bad as they say if not worse.

HON is very similar to DOTA. LOL is pretty different outside of basic premise.

(incidentally i prefer LOL because the community is slightly less retarded imo. also HON's matchmaking is notoriously poor at matching new players skill levels with other people's.)

Jere · 05-16-2011, 08:32 AM

Of course the communitys are retarded the games is based on dota after all!

And if it comes to this we can all agree to that it's the same **** with a Different name!

KriticalD · 05-16-2011, 01:36 PM

Honestly to me HON has more of a dota feel to it then LOL does. Plus I dont like the kiddy graphics from LOL. If you guys are tired of the Dota franchise you can go to Gamescampus to check out different titles of free to play games.

Jere · 05-16-2011, 04:09 PM

Kiddy graphics?

Where i come from thems fighting words boy!

You see im what you would call a noobcake, i make misstakes like misclicking and pressing the wrong buttons but i still manage you know why?

Cause Me and him and her over there, we grew up on old Nes Consoles that used some kind of hand interference, let's take Deja Vu for example.

Sure it's not RTS and it's hard as **** to missclick, but it still happend, so from a young age I have learned to compensate for missclicks, it started slow on the Nes then it got faster, we maybe got hold of a amiga or a pc or maybe we had something a little slower, like the Super Snes, you know that the Snes had a mouse do you sir, that was not a luxury we had on the Nes.

That thing along with super mario Paint learned a generation how to undo missclicks well that and MarioVSWario.

Then a couple of years later i got hold on a PC and there i felt that this is they way to go when it comes to clicking and as i had mastered bad clicking experience on other mashines why not try it on this one to cause to me this looks like the future.

And I was damn right!

Nowdays you kids have the wii and Boxes and game stations so you don't know how good you have it, try to play the flyswat game on a Snes and you see what i mean.

So i don't see why you need to address such a tiny thing as a kiddy graphic, it's freaking remberant in comparison of a picture rendered on a Game and Watch.

So don't come here and talk about graphics!

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 05-16-2011, 04:36 PM

HoN tried too hard to be DotA, and ended up with something i didnt honestly find fun.

also lol people caring about graphics

KriticalD · 05-16-2011, 04:45 PM

Haha you Sir are awesome I understand the games were from the 80's and I appreciate them too growing up playing duck hunt at the age of 2 I was able to master it pretty quickly.

Also excuse my ignorance, but what is Deja Vu? Was that a game too?

Its just my preference as to the style of the game is portrayed to me. Its not that I have a problem with the graphics persay, but that with graphics like that comes less complexity to the game. Its like dumbing down gaming for the elderly oops~ I meant simplifing a game as to removing the strategy.

Haha still I would have to say you can't compete with old school kiddy graphics specially what nintendo had been able to do and STILL do generation after generation. Just I have higher standards for PC games.

Jere · 05-16-2011, 05:23 PM

Im sorry I just do that when I suspect there is some kind of bot or something, mostly when they argue back it isn't a bot.

Yeah Deja Vu is a old game for the Nes, i think it was ported from a Mac game but I can't really tell if it was first on Nes or Mac, it is in the same type of game as Shadowgate and Uninvited

So to come to my real point, usually i don't care to much about graphics as i don't think it affects the game to much, if the settings aren't to high and the game lags due to that but that's another story but i can understand that people can be turned off from things due to it looking in a certain way, when it comes right down to it we are to much different to make something that everybody finds appealing.

and a tip, go and say hello into the new members section, we always look for new members and we are a nice bunch of people here!

Fairlight Excalibur · 05-17-2011, 02:12 AM

I have seen LoL first hand and yes, the graphics are subpar and childish, but considering I still play Total Annihilation on my PC and NES emulators, that means little to me.

Anyway, I decided to give HoN a try and registered an account. Hit me up if any of you wanna play. Screen name Fairlight_Ex.

KriticalD · 05-17-2011, 03:57 PM

Ok so outside of HON and LOL does anyone play MMORPGS? I have been looking around for some good free to play mmos...cause I am cheap like that. Suggestions?

Yeah I have friends that play HON tell me they have to go and turns out they are just on LOL instead and then switch back. Such dota whores.

Sim Kid · 05-21-2011, 12:46 PM

I'll give you a hint:

Heroes of Newerth is a DotA inspired game.

So the reviews about them having one of the worst scummunity on the internet is absolutely 100% true.

However there is some hope after all - maybe when Valve makes DotA 2, it'll suck out the #1 argument in favour of Eugenics and leave this game and League of Legends with a better community.

There are some good people on HoN, but the problem is that Murphy's Law states they're few and far in between, or if they are, they only play with each other and form iron-bound groups.

Still I played it and had some enjoyment. I like League of Legends more, but the reasons so are for personal preference - and even League of Legends isn't free from Dot*******s. It's not recommended you play ranked games at 30.

http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/ca...0520-ae447.png

EDIT: Uncensored swear words in the comic.

heh · 05-21-2011, 08:06 PM

LOL doesn't have "kiddy graphics" it has cartoony graphics. Huge difference. HON has GRIMDARK HELLGRAPHICS which is even more childish imo.

also HON does not have rammus, the best hero.

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 05-22-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by heh

also HON does not have rammus, the best hero.

ok

Sim Kid · 05-22-2011, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heh

LOL doesn't have "kiddy graphics" it has cartoony graphics. Huge difference. HON has GRIMDARK HELLGRAPHICS which is even more childish imo.

also HON does not have rammus, the best hero.

I love how anything stylized and colourful is derided as "Kiddy" or "Cartoony". I can go off on a tangent about that but it's really off topic.

heh · 05-23-2011, 12:46 AM

LOL is absolutely cartoony

see: rammus, fire girl, tristana, miss fortune

05-16-2011, 05:23 PM	#13
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Im sorry I just do that when I suspect there is some kind of bot or something, mostly when they argue back it isn't a bot. Yeah Deja Vu is a old game for the Nes, i think it was ported from a Mac game but I can't really tell if it was first on Nes or Mac, it is in the same type of game as Shadowgate and Uninvited So to come to my real point, usually i don't care to much about graphics as i don't think it affects the game to much, if the settings aren't to high and the game lags due to that but that's another story but i can understand that people can be turned off from things due to it looking in a certain way, when it comes right down to it we are to much different to make something that everybody finds appealing. and a tip, go and say hello into the new members section, we always look for new members and we are a nice bunch of people here! Last edited by Jere; 05-16-2011 at 05:41 PM.

05-15-2011, 07:31 PM	#1
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Heroes of Newerth Anyone here play it? Is it worth buying? How different is it from DotA? Is it better than DotA? Is the community really as bad as the reviews say?

05-15-2011, 07:35 PM	#2
LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT Videos Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 4,613 Thanks: 2,502 Thanked 767 Times in 422 Posts	HoN is tedious as hell. I dislike the **** out of it.

05-15-2011, 07:41 PM	#4
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	My ansver goes as following: I haven't played lot's of Heroes of Neverth Really but i have played lot's of Leage of Legends! You do the math!

05-15-2011, 07:54 PM	#5
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I have never seen League of Legends, though I have heard it described as a very childish version of HoN. EDIT: How exactly is it tedious? If you mean requiring lots of micro, then yeah, I would expect that just like in DotA.

05-16-2011, 01:59 AM	#6
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	would not say it's childis it's more easygoing and is not as serius as it's earlyer counterpart and HoN. Then they have a great lore, and a relativley well balanced character rooster (still could use a tweak or two). Basicly don't say no to it before you try it.

05-16-2011, 07:29 AM	#7
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	HON and LOL are both solid games but the community is terrible for both. it is as bad as they say if not worse. HON is very similar to DOTA. LOL is pretty different outside of basic premise. (incidentally i prefer LOL because the community is slightly less retarded imo. also HON's matchmaking is notoriously poor at matching new players skill levels with other people's.)

05-16-2011, 08:32 AM	#8
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Of course the communitys are retarded the games is based on dota after all! And if it comes to this we can all agree to that it's the same **** with a Different name!

05-16-2011, 01:36 PM	#9
KriticalD Newbie Join Date: May 2011 Gender: Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Honestly to me HON has more of a dota feel to it then LOL does. Plus I dont like the kiddy graphics from LOL. If you guys are tired of the Dota franchise you can go to Gamescampus to check out different titles of free to play games.

05-16-2011, 04:09 PM	#10
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Kiddy graphics? Where i come from thems fighting words boy! You see im what you would call a noobcake, i make misstakes like misclicking and pressing the wrong buttons but i still manage you know why? Cause Me and him and her over there, we grew up on old Nes Consoles that used some kind of hand interference, let's take Deja Vu for example. Sure it's not RTS and it's hard as **** to missclick, but it still happend, so from a young age I have learned to compensate for missclicks, it started slow on the Nes then it got faster, we maybe got hold of a amiga or a pc or maybe we had something a little slower, like the Super Snes, you know that the Snes had a mouse do you sir, that was not a luxury we had on the Nes. That thing along with super mario Paint learned a generation how to undo missclicks well that and MarioVSWario. Then a couple of years later i got hold on a PC and there i felt that this is they way to go when it comes to clicking and as i had mastered bad clicking experience on other mashines why not try it on this one to cause to me this looks like the future. And I was damn right! Nowdays you kids have the wii and Boxes and game stations so you don't know how good you have it, try to play the flyswat game on a Snes and you see what i mean. So i don't see why you need to address such a tiny thing as a kiddy graphic, it's freaking remberant in comparison of a picture rendered on a Game and Watch. So don't come here and talk about graphics!

05-16-2011, 04:36 PM	#11
LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT Videos Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 4,613 Thanks: 2,502 Thanked 767 Times in 422 Posts	HoN tried too hard to be DotA, and ended up with something i didnt honestly find fun. also lol people caring about graphics

05-16-2011, 04:45 PM	#12
KriticalD Newbie Join Date: May 2011 Gender: Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Haha you Sir are awesome I understand the games were from the 80's and I appreciate them too growing up playing duck hunt at the age of 2 I was able to master it pretty quickly. Also excuse my ignorance, but what is Deja Vu? Was that a game too? Its just my preference as to the style of the game is portrayed to me. Its not that I have a problem with the graphics persay, but that with graphics like that comes less complexity to the game. Its like dumbing down gaming for the elderly oops~ I meant simplifing a game as to removing the strategy. Haha still I would have to say you can't compete with old school kiddy graphics specially what nintendo had been able to do and STILL do generation after generation. Just I have higher standards for PC games.

05-17-2011, 02:12 AM	#14
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I have seen LoL first hand and yes, the graphics are subpar and childish, but considering I still play Total Annihilation on my PC and NES emulators, that means little to me. Anyway, I decided to give HoN a try and registered an account. Hit me up if any of you wanna play. Screen name Fairlight_Ex.

05-17-2011, 03:57 PM	#15
KriticalD Newbie Join Date: May 2011 Gender: Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok so outside of HON and LOL does anyone play MMORPGS? I have been looking around for some good free to play mmos...cause I am cheap like that. Suggestions? Yeah I have friends that play HON tell me they have to go and turns out they are just on LOL instead and then switch back. Such dota whores.

05-21-2011, 12:46 PM	#16
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	I'll give you a hint: Heroes of Newerth is a DotA inspired game. So the reviews about them having one of the worst scummunity on the internet is absolutely 100% true. However there is some hope after all - maybe when Valve makes DotA 2, it'll suck out the #1 argument in favour of Eugenics and leave this game and League of Legends with a better community. There are some good people on HoN, but the problem is that Murphy's Law states they're few and far in between, or if they are, they only play with each other and form iron-bound groups. Still I played it and had some enjoyment. I like League of Legends more, but the reasons so are for personal preference - and even League of Legends isn't free from Dot*******s. It's not recommended you play ranked games at 30. http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/ca...0520-ae447.png EDIT: Uncensored swear words in the comic.

05-21-2011, 08:06 PM	#17
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	LOL doesn't have "kiddy graphics" it has cartoony graphics. Huge difference. HON has GRIMDARK HELLGRAPHICS which is even more childish imo. also HON does not have rammus, the best hero.

05-23-2011, 12:46 AM	#20
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	LOL is absolutely cartoony see: rammus, fire girl, tristana, miss fortune