Official 2004 Presidential Election Topic - VGF

Nick · 04-03-2004, 04:54 PM

Kerry v. Bush

Discuss.

imported_ · 04-03-2004, 05:33 PM

BUSH...MUST...WIN!!!

Blue Yoshi · 04-03-2004, 06:14 PM

I'm pretty sure Kerry will win. Hell, a monkey could win if it was democratic and opposed the war on Iraq.

[ April 04, 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Blue Yoshi ]

Jonathan Resop · 04-03-2004, 06:20 PM

Neither. Nader or someone else.-jay

spicy · 04-03-2004, 06:31 PM

[Please keep this constructive.-jay]

[ April 03, 2004, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: Perrin Aybara ]

Link47 · 04-03-2004, 06:42 PM

If I would be old enough to vote (I'll be 1 year short), I would be voting for Bush, and I'll tell you why. I like his stance on fighting terrorism, I support the war in Iraq, and I agree with him on alot of moral issues. I do disagree with him, however, on Medicare and immigration.

Now let me tell you why I don't like Kerry. He was against the war in Iraq for one thing, despite the fact that he voted FOR it. What I also don't like is his and the other democrats views that terrorism is a law enforcement issue, which I diagree with; i think it's a military issue. I also don't like that he's catholic. And what really turns me off from him (aside from the fact that he is a democrat), is that he flip flops too much. He voted for NAFTA, but now is against it. He voted for Iraq, but now is against it. Make up your mind.

A Genius · 04-03-2004, 08:07 PM

Both Kerry and Bush are idiots. If I had to pick one of them, I'd pick Kerry, just to get rid of Bush, but then I bet Kerry would suck also. So I would probably either vote for Nader, or (this is the most favorable option) move to Canada.

-A Genius (I'm sure that the worst thing the Prime Minister would do to the English Language is mispronounce the word, "about." Bush on the other hand...)

Super Shy Guy · 04-03-2004, 08:37 PM

I like Nader, but, sadly, he'll never be President.

I guess it's Kerry, I just don't like Bush at all. I'm not much of a fan of Kerry, but he's way better than Bush.

I don't like the democrats or the republicans, quite frankly. They each have things about the way they do things that piss me off.

[ April 03, 2004, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Captain Carter ]

imported_ · 04-03-2004, 10:19 PM

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And what really turns me off from him (aside from the fact that he is a democrat), is that he flip flops too much. He voted for NAFTA, but now is against it. He voted for Iraq, but now is against it. Make up your mind.

Kerry, like most Democrats, flip-flops his principles with whatever is fashionable at the time. People can say what they like about Bush, but at least you know where he stands on the issues. He sticks by his principles and doesn't back down from what he believes just to save a few popularity points.

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I'm sure that the worst thing the Prime Minister would do to the English Language is mispronounce the word, "about." Bush on the other hand...

Oh, COME ON! This joke is older than Atlantis. The poor guy mispronounces one or two words back in 1999 and he pays for it for the rest of his life. It's not as if the rest of America can speak english properly, especially with all the Mexicans coming in and turning Spanish into our first language.

[ April 03, 2004, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: Metal Mario ]

Kil'jaeden · 04-04-2004, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by King Link47:

I also don't like that he's catholic.

Why would it matter what sect/religion they are?

Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) · 04-04-2004, 09:23 AM

I hate Bush, and I'm not to sure about Kerry, but I'd rather have him win, cause I despise Bush, and dont think he did a good job.

As For Kerry, he has had good plans...on paper. Bush actually did carry out his plan, but it sorta backfired.

That's my spit, but aey, I'm 3 years short as of August.

Meh, though I can't vote am a Democrat, my parents are too, most, well everyone in my family is a democrat, and only one person in our whole neighborhood is REP. (just thought I'd say that)

[ April 04, 2004, 09:25 AM: Message edited by: Rubberband Man 2007 STN MTN ]

Legion · 04-04-2004, 10:49 AM

^^Oh for Pete's sake, don't bring the religious issue up again, please. We have enough problems normally without the election topic turning into a religious debate.

No President in Americas history besides Kennedy hasn't been a WASP. Personally, I'd like to see a black person get voted into office. Then maybe we could have the entire KKK sent to the chair.

I'm not too good with politics, as you can see.

Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) · 04-04-2004, 12:47 PM

If I became pres. I would have my friend Jose become VP, that way, if they kill me, he'd open up the border

(We actually had a conversation on this the other day, and he actually said that)

Anyway, I know if I became pres. that make LOTS of people unhappy.
I have a least-likely chance anyway
1. I dont know too much bout politics
2. I'm black

Link47 · 04-04-2004, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Castform Deity: Chaos incarnate:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by King Link47:

I also don't like that he's catholic.

Why would it matter what sect/religion they are? </font>[/quote]Cause catholics are usually loyal to the Pope and do what he says. Plus I'm just not a big fan of the catholic church because of my ancestry (long story).

Jonathan Resop · 04-04-2004, 01:38 PM

I'm Catholic.

What's that, Pope John Paul II?

You want me to smite and destroy L47?

Do this in the name of the Lord?

Well, ok, if you say so.

-jay

Nick · 04-04-2004, 02:16 PM

You're kidding, right? Bush still has massive amounts of verbal chernobyls in his speeches. IT IS NUCLEAR, NOT NUKYOOLAR.

Saying that Catholics are subserviant to the Pope has about as much grounds as someone saying WASPs will kill all the minorities and bring us back to a Puritan state.

Legion · 04-04-2004, 02:29 PM

I can think of very few scenarios where loyalty to the Pope would seriously affect a President's actions, other than declaring war on the Vatican. I suppose WASC doesn't have the same ring to it though. I'm more of a WASA.

Personally, Bush's speech impediment doesn't really bother me. It's just his annoyingly over-dramatic speeches. Axis of Evil, anyone?

Yoshinator · 04-04-2004, 03:37 PM

Jackson and Lincoln weren't wasps. They were white and protestant, but they weren't aristocrats.

Super Shy Guy · 04-04-2004, 03:45 PM

Kennedy was a Catholic, and he was, imo, a very good president. And I don't like the Catholic church either. Too bad he got shot in the face.

Anyone who thinks that a Catholic President would do whatever the pope says is a fool.

[ April 04, 2004, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Captain Carter ]

Legion · 04-04-2004, 04:47 PM

^^What? The AS part of WASP doesn't mean 'aristorcrat'. It stands for 'Anglo-Saxon'. And I'm pretty sure every American president to date has been Anglo-Saxon.

04-03-2004, 04:54 PM	#1
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04-03-2004, 05:33 PM	#2
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04-03-2004, 06:14 PM	#3
Blue Yoshi Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: DOES NOT COMPUTE Posts: 962 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 507.25 Bank: 10,818.52 Total Points: 11,325.77 Donate	I'm pretty sure Kerry will win. Hell, a monkey could win if it was democratic and opposed the war on Iraq. [ April 04, 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Blue Yoshi ]

04-03-2004, 06:20 PM	#4
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 33,129.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,629.00 Donate	Neither. Nader or someone else.-jay

04-03-2004, 06:31 PM	#5
spicy Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: You\'re in my prayers. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Posts: 1,880 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 798.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,298.00 Donate	[Please keep this constructive.-jay] [ April 03, 2004, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: Perrin Aybara ]

04-03-2004, 06:42 PM	#6
Link47 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: USA Posts: 8,377 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 20,994.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 21,494.00 Donate	If I would be old enough to vote (I'll be 1 year short), I would be voting for Bush, and I'll tell you why. I like his stance on fighting terrorism, I support the war in Iraq, and I agree with him on alot of moral issues. I do disagree with him, however, on Medicare and immigration. Now let me tell you why I don't like Kerry. He was against the war in Iraq for one thing, despite the fact that he voted FOR it. What I also don't like is his and the other democrats views that terrorism is a law enforcement issue, which I diagree with; i think it's a military issue. I also don't like that he's catholic. And what really turns me off from him (aside from the fact that he is a democrat), is that he flip flops too much. He voted for NAFTA, but now is against it. He voted for Iraq, but now is against it. Make up your mind.

04-03-2004, 08:07 PM	#7
A Genius Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Place Posts: 2,657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 2,027.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 2,527.00 Donate	Both Kerry and Bush are idiots. If I had to pick one of them, I'd pick Kerry, just to get rid of Bush, but then I bet Kerry would suck also. So I would probably either vote for Nader, or (this is the most favorable option) move to Canada. -A Genius (I'm sure that the worst thing the Prime Minister would do to the English Language is mispronounce the word, "about." Bush on the other hand...)

04-03-2004, 08:37 PM	#8
Super Shy Guy Banned Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the seven seas Posts: 8,969 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,518.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,018.00 Donate	I like Nader, but, sadly, he'll never be President. I guess it's Kerry, I just don't like Bush at all. I'm not much of a fan of Kerry, but he's way better than Bush. I don't like the democrats or the republicans, quite frankly. They each have things about the way they do things that piss me off. [ April 03, 2004, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Captain Carter ]

04-04-2004, 09:23 AM	#11
Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) Polk/McLaughlin '08: The Greatness You Already Knew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 12,901 Thanks: 909 Thanked 646 Times in 378 Posts Points: 44,979.71 Bank: 436,098.14 Total Points: 481,077.85 Donate	I hate Bush, and I'm not to sure about Kerry, but I'd rather have him win, cause I despise Bush, and dont think he did a good job. As For Kerry, he has had good plans...on paper. Bush actually did carry out his plan, but it sorta backfired. That's my spit, but aey, I'm 3 years short as of August. Meh, though I can't vote am a Democrat, my parents are too, most, well everyone in my family is a democrat, and only one person in our whole neighborhood is REP. (just thought I'd say that) [ April 04, 2004, 09:25 AM: Message edited by: Rubberband Man 2007 STN MTN ]

04-04-2004, 10:49 AM	#12
Legion Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Greater Mancester, UK Gender: Posts: 1,860 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Points: 7,622.29 Bank: 6,647.77 Total Points: 14,270.06 Donate	^^Oh for Pete's sake, don't bring the religious issue up again, please. We have enough problems normally without the election topic turning into a religious debate. No President in Americas history besides Kennedy hasn't been a WASP. Personally, I'd like to see a black person get voted into office. Then maybe we could have the entire KKK sent to the chair. I'm not too good with politics, as you can see.

04-04-2004, 12:47 PM	#13
Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) Polk/McLaughlin '08: The Greatness You Already Knew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 12,901 Thanks: 909 Thanked 646 Times in 378 Posts Points: 44,979.71 Bank: 436,098.14 Total Points: 481,077.85 Donate	If I became pres. I would have my friend Jose become VP, that way, if they kill me, he'd open up the border (We actually had a conversation on this the other day, and he actually said that) Anyway, I know if I became pres. that make LOTS of people unhappy. I have a least-likely chance anyway 1. I dont know too much bout politics 2. I'm black

04-04-2004, 01:38 PM	#15
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 33,129.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,629.00 Donate	I'm Catholic. What's that, Pope John Paul II? You want me to smite and destroy L47? Do this in the name of the Lord? Well, ok, if you say so. -jay

04-04-2004, 02:16 PM	#16
Nick Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 10,094.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 10,594.00 Donate	You're kidding, right? Bush still has massive amounts of verbal chernobyls in his speeches. IT IS NUCLEAR, NOT NUKYOOLAR. Saying that Catholics are subserviant to the Pope has about as much grounds as someone saying WASPs will kill all the minorities and bring us back to a Puritan state.

04-04-2004, 02:29 PM	#17
Legion Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Greater Mancester, UK Gender: Posts: 1,860 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Points: 7,622.29 Bank: 6,647.77 Total Points: 14,270.06 Donate	I can think of very few scenarios where loyalty to the Pope would seriously affect a President's actions, other than declaring war on the Vatican. I suppose WASC doesn't have the same ring to it though. I'm more of a WASA. Personally, Bush's speech impediment doesn't really bother me. It's just his annoyingly over-dramatic speeches. Axis of Evil, anyone?

04-04-2004, 03:37 PM	#18
Yoshinator Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 6,778 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 3,142.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,642.00 Donate	Jackson and Lincoln weren't wasps. They were white and protestant, but they weren't aristocrats.

04-04-2004, 03:45 PM	#19
Super Shy Guy Banned Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the seven seas Posts: 8,969 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,518.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,018.00 Donate	Kennedy was a Catholic, and he was, imo, a very good president. And I don't like the Catholic church either. Too bad he got shot in the face. Anyone who thinks that a Catholic President would do whatever the pope says is a fool. [ April 04, 2004, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Captain Carter ]

04-04-2004, 04:47 PM	#20
Legion Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Greater Mancester, UK Gender: Posts: 1,860 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Points: 7,622.29 Bank: 6,647.77 Total Points: 14,270.06 Donate	^^What? The AS part of WASP doesn't mean 'aristorcrat'. It stands for 'Anglo-Saxon'. And I'm pretty sure every American president to date has been Anglo-Saxon.