Hate groups spread message through music

Kain Highwind · 11-24-2004, 04:53 PM

Hate groups spread message through music (Source:MSNBC)

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SOUTH ST. PAUL, Minn. - In Madison, W.Va., 100 students from the high school and the middle school — children as young as 10 — were given copies of a CD recently.

"These people just came out of nowhere and handed out these CDs," says student Tiffany Nichols.

Tammy Spurlock says her two daughters played the CD thinking it was new rock music. What they discovered was that it was propaganda for white supremacists — a CD of hard-core hate songs advocating death to Jews, blacks and other minorities and inviting listeners to visit the Web site of the producer, Panzerfaust Records, for more racist songs, jokes and even to buy "Hitler Youth" knives.

"On a personal level it actually outraged me," says Madison Schools Safety Director Steven Bradley. "I was upset because I don't think it's at all appropriate to be in a school system or to even be around school children."

The music has also shown up recently around schools in southern California and central Florida.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) says it has become a key recruiting tool of white supremacists.

"The message that this company is sending is that we can target our children and make them haters," says Daniel Alter of the ADL. "Its Web site says, 'We don't just entertain racist kids, we create them.'"

The ADL says that hate music — an industry with millions of dollars in annual sales — is a major source of income and growth for several hate groups, including Panzerfaust Records.

The man behind Panzerfaust operates out of his home in a quiet neighborhood in South St. Paul, Minnesota.

"There's 50 million white kids that need to hear what we need to say," says Panzerfaust producer Byron Calvert.

Calvert says Panzerfaust has distributed 20,000 CDs in 40 states. His goal is 200,000. He claims his hate music is protected by the First Amendment.

School officials still don’t accept it.

"Our message is stay out of the school system," says Steven Bradley.

"I was scared that they were organized enough to just come and do this," say Tiffany Nichols.

The Anti-Defamation League has alerted communities nationwide to watch out for this new release of hate aimed at America's schoolyards.

© 2004 MSNBC Interactive

Super Shy Guy · 11-24-2004, 05:55 PM

He is protected by the First Amendment, but I think the school systems can still bar him and his cronies from the premises.

Pretty ****ed up, I'll say.

c_jks · 11-24-2004, 06:46 PM

That's pretty ballsy to think that they can go on school campuses and do this.

**Prince Toad** · 11-24-2004, 07:59 PM

What *******s.

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-25-2004, 12:04 PM

Yeah, that's right, give those to kids on school property, where the kids can then get their heads busted in for it by the school administration since kids lose their rights at school, making them hate the guys who gave them the CDs for getting them in trouble. Smooth marketing right there.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Kain Highwind · 11-25-2004, 12:36 PM

^ What befuddles me more is how can the guys pass these things out without even a teacher spotting the men?

Erdawn Il Deus · 11-25-2004, 01:50 PM

I tell you, if I was given one of those the CD shards would end up in the guy`s left nostril.

Sim Kid · 11-25-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Vote Rock for NC president:
^ What befuddles me more is how can the guys pass these things out without even a teacher spotting the men?

Good point. What also befuddles me is why the younger children didn't tell any adults about the men.

ZIPPYDIPPY19 · 11-25-2004, 04:58 PM

Stop using the term 'befuddle'.

And personally, I think Erdawn's got the right idea, prejudice is something I do not tolerate.

**Wyborn** · 11-25-2004, 07:26 PM

Well...all that really matter is that they gave his hometown and his first and last name.

I only hope someone will break his legs, with this invaluable information.

Sim Kid · 11-26-2004, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Zippy:
Stop using the term 'befuddle'.

You are really asking for it...

Everybody Nose · 11-27-2004, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by R Wyborn Flagg - an omen:

I only hope someone will break his legs, with this invaluable information.

Will do.

**Prince Toad** · 11-27-2004, 08:07 PM

^^Dumbass.

ZIPPYDIPPY19 · 11-28-2004, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Thowachairatmi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Zippy:
Stop using the term 'befuddle'.

You are really asking for it... </font>[/quote]Well I'm positively befuddled as to how

[ November 28, 2004, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: Zippy ]

A Genius · 12-11-2004, 04:25 PM

^I'm positively befuddled as to how you are befuddled to befuddled his befuddling message.

Anyway, yeah. I was brought up repeatedly being told that whites and blacks and everyone else were equal, and I've never been able to understand people who disagree. I guess that kinda makes me an idiot by my standards. Still, he is technically supported by the first ammendment.

-A Genius (I was just seeing how many times I could work the word "Befuddled" into one sentence.)

Damon King · 12-12-2004, 01:14 AM

If I kill his hick ass, can I be protected by some admendment too?

DELICIOUS POISON · 12-12-2004, 10:29 AM

As though no one has ever heard of a skinhead before. Newsworthy? My ass.

11-24-2004, 05:55 PM	#2
Super Shy Guy Banned Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the seven seas Posts: 8,969 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 9,104.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,604.00 Donate	He is protected by the First Amendment, but I think the school systems can still bar him and his cronies from the premises. Pretty ****ed up, I'll say.

11-24-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
c_jks Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sacramento, CA, USA Posts: 5,631 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 2,954.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,454.00 Donate	That's pretty ballsy to think that they can go on school campuses and do this.

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Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,419 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,860.37 Bank: 22,759.57 Total Points: 67,619.94 Donate	What *******s.

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Kain Highwind Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pending. Gender: Posts: 5,789 Thanks: 127 Thanked 117 Times in 82 Posts Points: 4,286.81 Bank: 47,139.19 Total Points: 51,426.00 Donate	^ What befuddles me more is how can the guys pass these things out without even a teacher spotting the men?

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ZIPPYDIPPY19 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,663 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 3,390.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,890.00 Donate	Stop using the term 'befuddle'. And personally, I think Erdawn's got the right idea, prejudice is something I do not tolerate.

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Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,326 Thanks: 86 Thanked 439 Times in 269 Posts Points: 17,605.94 Bank: 82,155.51 Total Points: 99,761.45 Donate	Well...all that really matter is that they gave his hometown and his first and last name. I only hope someone will break his legs, with this invaluable information.

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Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,419 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,860.37 Bank: 22,759.57 Total Points: 67,619.94 Donate	^^Dumbass.

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A Genius Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Place Posts: 2,657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 2,809.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,309.00 Donate	^I'm positively befuddled as to how you are befuddled to befuddled his befuddling message. Anyway, yeah. I was brought up repeatedly being told that whites and blacks and everyone else were equal, and I've never been able to understand people who disagree. I guess that kinda makes me an idiot by my standards. Still, he is technically supported by the first ammendment. -A Genius (I was just seeing how many times I could work the word "Befuddled" into one sentence.)

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Damon King Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: US Posts: 862 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Points: 8,189.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,189.89 Donate	If I kill his hick ass, can I be protected by some admendment too?

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DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,299 Thanks: 523 Thanked 1,436 Times in 721 Posts Points: 8,775.88 Bank: 2,615,176.24 Total Points: 2,623,952.12 Donate	As though no one has ever heard of a skinhead before. Newsworthy? My ass.