Montana legislature considers bill to ban drinking and driving - VGF

Philip55 · 03-24-2005, 09:05 AM

It is already against the law to be drunk while driving, but it is currently legal to drink alcohol while driving -- as long as the driver doesn't get legally intoxicated. The proposed laws would ban having an open container of alcohol in a moving vehicle.

http://lp.org/lpnews/0504/montana-drinking.html

More proof that no man's liberty is safe while the legislature is in session.

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-24-2005, 12:09 PM

Well, having open containers of any liquid in a moving vehicle is pretty stupid, but yeah, we don't need a law about it.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Nick · 03-24-2005, 04:50 PM

Banning open containers is generally a good idea. Somehow, I'd like to believe that personal liberty ends when it concerns getting tanked while driving.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 03-24-2005, 05:03 PM

But drinking and driving is bad becase you might hit a bump and spill your drink.

**FACE K. POLK** · 03-24-2005, 07:00 PM

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Link2000 · 03-24-2005, 07:19 PM

I'll have to agree with Lurch on this one.

El Barto · 03-24-2005, 08:19 PM

That's the law here, and I think it works pretty well (unless you want to transport booze in a station wagon).

The Missing Link · 03-24-2005, 10:23 PM

Sounds good.

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Philip55 · 03-25-2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Great Tyrant:
Banning open containers is generally a good idea. Somehow, I'd like to believe that personal liberty ends when it concerns getting tanked while driving.

Actually getting tanked should obviously be against the law (on public roads, let the owner decide on private). My problem is that this goes too far.

Link47 · 03-25-2005, 07:29 PM

Lets think about this people, come on. If I'm driving around sipping on my bottle of vodka, I might be doing it legally, but I'm still a hazard because my senses are starting to be depressed. Drinking alcohol and driving is stupid, and should be illegal.

Tub-O-Troopa · 03-26-2005, 02:41 PM

If anything you should be rolling your eyes that they took this long to consider it.

The Missing Link · 03-26-2005, 03:01 PM

^ Well, it's more of a... I never considered even doing that. As the old adage goes, you build a better mouse trap...

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[sage] · 03-27-2005, 12:19 AM

I thought that was already illegal anyway. I suppose thats by state though. *shrug*

Philip55 · 03-27-2005, 07:32 AM

A little drinking while driving never hurt anyone.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 03-27-2005, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Philip55:
A little drinking while driving never hurt anyone.

Quote:

Originally posted by Beam Yosho the Drunkard:
But drinking and driving is bad becase you might hit a bump and spill your drink.

Nick · 03-28-2005, 05:44 PM

how is it going to far

Philip55 · 03-29-2005, 12:45 AM

Because it doesn't hurt anyone unless you actually get intoxicated.

The Missing Link · 03-29-2005, 01:01 AM

Depending upon the state's definition of "legal limit"...

Person + Beer = Drunk.
Person + Beer + Driving = Drunk + Driving.
As driving + drunk = trouble, you do the math.

If the legal limit is anything like Ohio (reduced to 0.08%), that's like about anything over one beer.

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Jonathan Resop · 03-29-2005, 02:06 AM

I hope Phil gets hit by a drunk driver.-jay

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 03-29-2005, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Philip55:
Because it doesn't hurt anyone unless you actually get intoxicated.

Your right. Those stories of people being completelty smeared across a highway/flattened/mangled by someone who was drunk and driving at the same time?

Obviously false.

03-24-2005, 09:05 AM	#1
Philip55 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 142 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,464.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,964.00 Donate	It is already against the law to be drunk while driving, but it is currently legal to drink alcohol while driving -- as long as the driver doesn't get legally intoxicated. The proposed laws would ban having an open container of alcohol in a moving vehicle. http://lp.org/lpnews/0504/montana-drinking.html More proof that no man's liberty is safe while the legislature is in session.

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El Barto Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,708 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,477.12 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,977.12 Donate	That's the law here, and I think it works pretty well (unless you want to transport booze in a station wagon).

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Link47 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: USA Posts: 8,377 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 20,994.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 21,494.00 Donate	Lets think about this people, come on. If I'm driving around sipping on my bottle of vodka, I might be doing it legally, but I'm still a hazard because my senses are starting to be depressed. Drinking alcohol and driving is stupid, and should be illegal.

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[sage] Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 18,021 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 29,390.75 Bank: 510.00 Total Points: 29,900.75 Donate	I thought that was already illegal anyway. I suppose thats by state though. shrug

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Philip55 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 142 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,464.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,964.00 Donate	Because it doesn't hurt anyone unless you actually get intoxicated.

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The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,573 Thanks: 80 Thanked 183 Times in 110 Posts Points: 5,359.15 Bank: 51,115.11 Total Points: 56,474.26 Donate	Depending upon the state's definition of "legal limit"... Person + Beer = Drunk. Person + Beer + Driving = Drunk + Driving. As driving + drunk = trouble, you do the math. If the legal limit is anything like Ohio (reduced to 0.08%), that's like about anything over one beer. "There are some who call me... Link?" "Carpe Gaium Domesticum!" (Seize the Cucco!) Zelda: The Grand Adventures \| Triforce MUCK ザ行方不明リンク悪いユウモアの賢人

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