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Old 12-11-2005, 02:03 PM   #21
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^Good argument. This country is running at a huge defecit and it just keeps getting bigger. It's time we figure out what's costing us so much and work on fixing it.
Can you say War in Iraq?
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:28 PM   #22
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^^Raising taxes is not the answer. The answer is being economically responsible.

^The War in Iraq is a factor, but there are many other factors too. Our country spends wayyy too much money on programs(for lack of a better word) that are in need of reform, but instead of reforming these programs we just keep dumping money into them hoping the problem with fix itself.
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Seriously. The only reason people give a **** about corporate fraud is because of our energy policy designer Enron ****ed over millions of people using accounting fraud.

Politicians voted for the war in Iraq based on falsified and exaggerated intelligence. Blaming people for voting in support of something when they were presented false info isn't the same as blaming an administration for putting the wagon before the horse (to use an obnoxious phrase) when it comes to Iraq. Ie: cooked books, silenced opposition, and believing faulty and shaky intelligence from unreliable sources.

What's costing so much: War and reckless spending.
How to fix it: shift the tax burden from the middle and lower classes back to the upper class instead of gashing their taxes.

Defense spending >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>> Everything else.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:39 PM   #24
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I believe there is an old saying that goes: Profanity is the crutch of a conversational cripple. It's hard to take somebody seriously when in every post there are ****'s all over the place.

Faulty intelligence or not, Congress voted to go to war, including a lot of these politicians who are now complaining that it's turning into a fiasco. I don't like the fact that we are at war, either, but I can't change it.

Raising taxes is not going to do anything unless we work on getting all of our problems fixed. The War in Iraq is costing us big time, but so are all the social programs that are being abused.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:09 PM   #25
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There's an old saying that goes "Do not **** with me when I'm watching football and drinking beer and wondering why the Bears D can't stop anything today. "

Voting to go to war when you're presented false pretenses for going to war is excusable. Presenting intelligence that is known to be false is not.

It isn't about raising taxes, its about ending things like subsidies for oil companies when they're making record profits and fixing prices, its about putting a tax burden on the shoulders of the people with the most money, not the middle class, its about wondering why we need defense department wet dreams (keyword dream) like the missile defense shield when the same administration won't build physical walls to prevent a major US city from flooding. The Bush administration and Republican Congress is run on cronyism, nothing more, nothing less. Any policy they've created has been a knee-jerk reaction (post-9/11) or to serve the interests of their buddies.

Furthermore, its a blatent fact that the amount of funding sent towards the defense department dwarfs every other department.

[ December 11, 2005, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: The Great Tyrant ]
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Ahhh...football and beer. No wonder you're po'ed today. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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