The best of Generation IV

Sim Kid · 05-05-2007, 03:30 PM

NOTE: Legendaries have their OWN Category.

What are the best types of Generation IV, in your opinion?

Fire: Obviously Infernape, though Chimchar's flaming ass DOES Cancel out any ownage he may give, despite having a bad move-set. (Feint...Wow, what a worthless move)

Water: Empelon - Good type mixture, and having some flying move to use against grass-types is a plus.
Runner up: Floatzel

Grass: Torterra - It gets Earthquake practically by the time Grotle evolves into Infernape. Despite having a really bad weakness against flying types, it is a pretty good pokemon. Loads of health too.
Runner up: Roserade. Roselia was a decent pokemon to have around, and Roserade is better...save for the fact that Budew requires the Happiness Evolution of DOOM.

Electric: Luxray - There weren't many electric types in Generation IV, but Luxray certainly does his job very well. All in all, pretty much the feline-version of Manectric, and this is a very good thing.

Bug: Vespiquen
(Note: Drapion is disqualified for not actually being a bug-type)
...Well, the bug type in itself wasn't anything too good, except for Scizor, Heracross, and maybe Pinsir.

Poison: Drapion / Toxicroak
The Poison type really isn't that good, only really being good when it is a secondary type...Drapion and Toxicroak are pretty much the only ones who use the poison type correctly.

Rock: Probably Borat-err I mean Probopass
Probopass's giant nose and that huge moustace just makes me think "Yakesemash! My name is Borat!". I should xfer another Nosepass nicknamed "Borat" and evolve it. (Yes, Borat does have a huge nose...That Turkish dude who sued him had a much BIGGER nose)

Ground: Probably Hippodown or Garchomp
They're both pretty good 'Mons. Lots of health, attack, and defense. Garchomp is also worth the training, and give him Draco Meteor and he'll own all.

Ice: Abomasnow
A nice type mixture and some good stats-Save for the fact that one flamethrower will kill it.

Flying: Staraptor
Staraptor is pretty much the Sinnoh equivalent(sp) to Pidgeot. Very good attack and can use Aerial Ace pretty well.

Psychic: Bronzong
Bronzong doesn't have a very good moveset, but it has craploads of defense, making it a good meat shield with its Heatproof. It can learn earthquake though, and if it's got Levitate, then it can be a good combination with a Torterra or another Earthquake-user.

Fighting: Lucario
Lucario wins for having a really good type-mixture. However though, its steel type isn't really enough to save this poor thing from some attacks. Hopefully, your Lucario should kill the enemy with an Aura Sphere before it has a chance to kill it.

Steel: Bronzong or Bastiodon
The Steel Type isn't exactly known for being good, mostly as a secondary type that adds for defense. Bronzong and Bastiodon are both good examples of Steel type-Very high defense.
Runner up: Obviously Lucario.

Dark: Weavile
It's finally worth it to train up a Sneasel this time around. Weavile with a Night Slash absolutely pwns most psychic pokemon. Giving it an X-Scissor can also help in its anti-psychic arsenal. Pretty much a Glass Canon, which helps in a type that doesn't have a lot of pokemon in it.

Ghost: Spiritomb
Low health, but Spiritomb, like Sableye, has no weakness. It's good against Psychic pokemon, and can even learn Silver Wind.

Normal: None
normal isn't really a good type...at all...Regigigas is good, but it's disqualified for being a legendary.

Dragon: Garchomp - It's basically a clone of Flygon. Lots of attack and health, and a pretty good moveset. It's very good if you can give it Draco Meteor.

Legendary: Regigigas - Insane stats (Save for Special attack) Despite its glaring weakness to fighting.

Ugliest pokemon: Hard to tell. Some of those evolutions of pre-existing pokemon are pretty ugly, and Chimchar DOES have that flaming ass, but I'm going to have to say Mime Jr - It's almost as bad as Jynx, but it's ugly!

Runner up: obviously Probopass-err I mean Borat.

The Doctor · 05-05-2007, 04:09 PM

Yeah, I've nothing to add. You've pretty much sumed it up.

Although, am I the only person that thinks Shinx's family should have been part dark type.

Asnabel · 05-05-2007, 04:38 PM

No.

I'm only four gyms in, but give me time and I will tear this list - quite literally - to pieces.

Edit: This is Wyborn, not Asnabel....forgot to log my brother out.

Edit2: Wait, this is DS-gen only. Uh....carry on, then....

Tad Venture · 05-05-2007, 08:36 PM

I do love my Honchkrow in both the Dark and Flying categories, though Weavile is pretty dang awesome. Terrible name though.

**Wyborn** · 05-05-2007, 09:31 PM

I'm calling foul on Regigigas as the best legendary. Giratina, Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus are all far superior to him.

**March of the Covenant** · 05-05-2007, 09:38 PM

Regigigas sucks due to Slow Start, but I did catch him with a Pokeball.

Tad Venture · 05-06-2007, 07:43 AM

I prefer Rotom in the Electric category. Luxray's cool, but there's only so much you can do with physical electric attacks. Rotom's special attack is pretty mean coupled with his speed. My Thunderbolt, Thunder wave, Confuse Ray, Shadow Ball moveset for him has been devastating so far.

Normal would be Bibarel. STAB from Hyper Fang is good, and Super Fang can help with Pokemon that have insane HP. Give it Surf and Grass Knot and you've got yourself a fairly nice weapon.

Flying, I'm partial to Honchkrow (as stated earlier). Great attacks on both ends and can utilize all of the many Physical flying and dark attacks and even get a nice special in there as well.

Rotom is also great in the Ghost category, even though it doesn't resist as many things as Spiritomb does. It's immune to Earthquake, and in competitive play, that's fantastic.

Codiekitty · 05-06-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendel the Winged Wombat

Luxray's cool, but there's only so much you can do with physical electric attacks.

Discharge isn't physical.

Where are these lemmings going? Not the Super Nintendo Super Shire! They know to go to Codiekitty.com now!

**Wyborn** · 05-06-2007, 09:39 PM

^ Doesn't matter. It's less than a third stronger than Thunder Fang or Spark, and Luxray's attack is so much higher than his Special Attack, especially with Rivalry, that it doesn't matter.

His speed keeps him out of the running anyway. Electrics are only any good when they can outspeed what they're trying to hit - even Raichu probably need a positive speed nature.

Electivire would probably be the best Electric from this generation. Him or Magnezone.

**Wyborn** · 05-07-2007, 03:12 PM

I'm not getting into the rest of the list but what's up with the Normal hate? PorgyonZ and Togekiss are both beyond awesome.

Tad Venture · 05-07-2007, 05:33 PM

I forgot about PorygonZ. His special attack is definitely rockin' awesome, especially with STAB'd Tri-Attack and Hyper Beam, plus Nasty Plot...that thing's deadly. Good call, Wy.

I haven't looked into Togekiss as much.

SephirothKirby · 05-07-2007, 05:33 PM

I dislike the majority of generation IV.

I mean, some of them just make me grimace in utter disgust.

Like all generations, there will be the hated ones. More and more with each generation. One was awesome, two was okay, three was meh, four seems to be different with its "Space and Time" theme and oversized pokemon. But it's still lacking in many areas.

Stunky?

Sim Kid · 05-08-2007, 11:13 PM

Stunky? How about Mime Jr or Tangrowth? Those things are hideous!

**March of the Covenant** · 05-09-2007, 04:56 AM

Ugliest Pokemon: Heatran, if he can be chosen for that spot....

05-05-2007, 03:30 PM	#1
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 34,714.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,214.04 Donate	The best of Generation IV NOTE: Legendaries have their OWN Category. What are the best types of Generation IV, in your opinion? Fire: Obviously Infernape, though Chimchar's flaming ass DOES Cancel out any ownage he may give, despite having a bad move-set. (Feint...Wow, what a worthless move) Water: Empelon - Good type mixture, and having some flying move to use against grass-types is a plus. Runner up: Floatzel Grass: Torterra - It gets Earthquake practically by the time Grotle evolves into Infernape. Despite having a really bad weakness against flying types, it is a pretty good pokemon. Loads of health too. Runner up: Roserade. Roselia was a decent pokemon to have around, and Roserade is better...save for the fact that Budew requires the Happiness Evolution of DOOM. Electric: Luxray - There weren't many electric types in Generation IV, but Luxray certainly does his job very well. All in all, pretty much the feline-version of Manectric, and this is a very good thing. Bug: Vespiquen (Note: Drapion is disqualified for not actually being a bug-type) ...Well, the bug type in itself wasn't anything too good, except for Scizor, Heracross, and maybe Pinsir. Poison: Drapion / Toxicroak The Poison type really isn't that good, only really being good when it is a secondary type...Drapion and Toxicroak are pretty much the only ones who use the poison type correctly. Rock: Probably Borat-err I mean Probopass Probopass's giant nose and that huge moustace just makes me think "Yakesemash! My name is Borat!". I should xfer another Nosepass nicknamed "Borat" and evolve it. (Yes, Borat does have a huge nose...That Turkish dude who sued him had a much BIGGER nose) Ground: Probably Hippodown or Garchomp They're both pretty good 'Mons. Lots of health, attack, and defense. Garchomp is also worth the training, and give him Draco Meteor and he'll own all. Ice: Abomasnow A nice type mixture and some good stats-Save for the fact that one flamethrower will kill it. Flying: Staraptor Staraptor is pretty much the Sinnoh equivalent(sp) to Pidgeot. Very good attack and can use Aerial Ace pretty well. Psychic: Bronzong Bronzong doesn't have a very good moveset, but it has craploads of defense, making it a good meat shield with its Heatproof. It can learn earthquake though, and if it's got Levitate, then it can be a good combination with a Torterra or another Earthquake-user. Fighting: Lucario Lucario wins for having a really good type-mixture. However though, its steel type isn't really enough to save this poor thing from some attacks. Hopefully, your Lucario should kill the enemy with an Aura Sphere before it has a chance to kill it. Steel: Bronzong or Bastiodon The Steel Type isn't exactly known for being good, mostly as a secondary type that adds for defense. Bronzong and Bastiodon are both good examples of Steel type-Very high defense. Runner up: Obviously Lucario. Dark: Weavile It's finally worth it to train up a Sneasel this time around. Weavile with a Night Slash absolutely pwns most psychic pokemon. Giving it an X-Scissor can also help in its anti-psychic arsenal. Pretty much a Glass Canon, which helps in a type that doesn't have a lot of pokemon in it. Ghost: Spiritomb Low health, but Spiritomb, like Sableye, has no weakness. It's good against Psychic pokemon, and can even learn Silver Wind. Normal: None normal isn't really a good type...at all...Regigigas is good, but it's disqualified for being a legendary. Dragon: Garchomp - It's basically a clone of Flygon. Lots of attack and health, and a pretty good moveset. It's very good if you can give it Draco Meteor. Legendary: Regigigas - Insane stats (Save for Special attack) Despite its glaring weakness to fighting. Ugliest pokemon: Hard to tell. Some of those evolutions of pre-existing pokemon are pretty ugly, and Chimchar DOES have that flaming ass, but I'm going to have to say Mime Jr - It's almost as bad as Jynx, but it's ugly! Runner up: obviously Probopass-err I mean Borat.

05-05-2007, 04:38 PM	#3
Asnabel Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Gender: Posts: 550 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 3,151.12 Bank: 2,030.70 Total Points: 5,181.82 Donate	No. I'm only four gyms in, but give me time and I will tear this list - quite literally - to pieces. Edit: This is Wyborn, not Asnabel....forgot to log my brother out. Edit2: Wait, this is DS-gen only. Uh....carry on, then.... Last edited by Asnabel; 05-05-2007 at 04:53 PM.

05-06-2007, 07:43 AM	#7
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,831.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,445.38 Donate	I prefer Rotom in the Electric category. Luxray's cool, but there's only so much you can do with physical electric attacks. Rotom's special attack is pretty mean coupled with his speed. My Thunderbolt, Thunder wave, Confuse Ray, Shadow Ball moveset for him has been devastating so far. Normal would be Bibarel. STAB from Hyper Fang is good, and Super Fang can help with Pokemon that have insane HP. Give it Surf and Grass Knot and you've got yourself a fairly nice weapon. Flying, I'm partial to Honchkrow (as stated earlier). Great attacks on both ends and can utilize all of the many Physical flying and dark attacks and even get a nice special in there as well. Rotom is also great in the Ghost category, even though it doesn't resist as many things as Spiritomb does. It's immune to Earthquake, and in competitive play, that's fantastic. Last edited by Caput Equi XVI; 05-06-2007 at 07:49 AM.

05-05-2007, 04:09 PM	#2
The Doctor Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In my Tardis Gender: Posts: 11,944 Thanks: 410 Thanked 355 Times in 246 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 75,694.34 Bank: 1,423,636.81 Total Points: 1,499,331.15 Donate	Yeah, I've nothing to add. You've pretty much sumed it up. Although, am I the only person that thinks Shinx's family should have been part dark type.

05-05-2007, 08:36 PM	#4
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,831.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,445.38 Donate	I do love my Honchkrow in both the Dark and Flying categories, though Weavile is pretty dang awesome. Terrible name though.

05-05-2007, 09:31 PM	#5
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,326 Thanks: 86 Thanked 439 Times in 269 Posts Points: 16,887.94 Bank: 82,155.51 Total Points: 99,043.45 Donate	I'm calling foul on Regigigas as the best legendary. Giratina, Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus are all far superior to him.

05-05-2007, 09:38 PM	#6
March of the Covenant I VOTED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: On a deserted island Gender: Posts: 10,932 Thanks: 804 Thanked 353 Times in 241 Posts Points: 18,446.16 Bank: 127,730.58 Total Points: 146,176.74 Donate	Regigigas sucks due to Slow Start, but I did catch him with a Pokeball.

05-06-2007, 09:39 PM	#9
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,326 Thanks: 86 Thanked 439 Times in 269 Posts Points: 16,887.94 Bank: 82,155.51 Total Points: 99,043.45 Donate	^ Doesn't matter. It's less than a third stronger than Thunder Fang or Spark, and Luxray's attack is so much higher than his Special Attack, especially with Rivalry, that it doesn't matter. His speed keeps him out of the running anyway. Electrics are only any good when they can outspeed what they're trying to hit - even Raichu probably need a positive speed nature. Electivire would probably be the best Electric from this generation. Him or Magnezone.

05-07-2007, 03:12 PM	#10
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,326 Thanks: 86 Thanked 439 Times in 269 Posts Points: 16,887.94 Bank: 82,155.51 Total Points: 99,043.45 Donate	I'm not getting into the rest of the list but what's up with the Normal hate? PorgyonZ and Togekiss are both beyond awesome.

05-07-2007, 05:33 PM	#11
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,831.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,445.38 Donate	I forgot about PorygonZ. His special attack is definitely rockin' awesome, especially with STAB'd Tri-Attack and Hyper Beam, plus Nasty Plot...that thing's deadly. Good call, Wy. I haven't looked into Togekiss as much.

05-07-2007, 05:33 PM	#12
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: **** YEAH SEAKING! Gender: Posts: 4,123 Thanks: 215 Thanked 310 Times in 182 Posts Points: 1,005.48 Bank: 119,758.71 Total Points: 120,764.19 Donate	I dislike the majority of generation IV. I mean, some of them just make me grimace in utter disgust. Like all generations, there will be the hated ones. More and more with each generation. One was awesome, two was okay, three was meh, four seems to be different with its "Space and Time" theme and oversized pokemon. But it's still lacking in many areas. Stunky?

05-08-2007, 11:13 PM	#13
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 34,714.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,214.04 Donate	Stunky? How about Mime Jr or Tangrowth? Those things are hideous!

05-09-2007, 04:56 AM	#14
March of the Covenant I VOTED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: On a deserted island Gender: Posts: 10,932 Thanks: 804 Thanked 353 Times in 241 Posts Points: 18,446.16 Bank: 127,730.58 Total Points: 146,176.74 Donate	Ugliest Pokemon: Heatran, if he can be chosen for that spot....