Pokemon of the Week #60: Typhlosion

**March of the Covenant** · 08-05-2007, 08:27 PM

Typhlosion

Type: Fire
Weaknesses: Rock, Water, Ground
Resistances: Grass, Bug, Ice
Ability: Balze
Best Stats: Speed, Sp. Atk.

Shiny Typhlosion looks like this:

ML's Suggested Moveset: With great Special Attack and Speed, coupled with Defenses average defenses to hold its own, Typhlosion is a tailor-made Special Sweeper.

Nature: Timid (+Sp, -Att)
EV's: Special Attack and Speed
Item: Leftovers
Moves:
Flamethrower
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Focus Blast

Sunnybeamer! Sunny Day really boosts two great moves, Solar Beam and Flamethrower, and both couple very well with Ty's stats. Solar Beam takes out an array of Fire's weaknesses, which is just cool. Focus Blast is mainly a filler move, and while not reliant can still pack a punch. Hyper Beam can also be considered.

Well...that was easy.

Pokemon of the Week #1: Tentacruel --- Pokemon of the Week #2: Duskull
Pokemon of the Week #3: Salamence --- Pokemon of the Week #4: Lunatone
Pokemon of the Week #5: Castform --- Pokemon of the Week #6: Entei
Pokemon of the Week #7: Charmander --- Pokemon of the Week #8: Medicham
Pokemon of the Week #9: Jolteon --- Pokemon of the Week #10: Latios
Pokemon of the Week #11: Wooper --- Pokemon of the Week #12: Lugia
Pokemon of the Week #13: Hariyama --- Pokemon of the Week #14: Elekid
Pokemon of the Week #15: Poliwag --- Pokemon of the Week #16: Marowak
Pokemon of the Week #17: Kecleon --- Pokemon of the Week #18: Feraligatr
Pokemon of the Week #19: Numel --- Pokemon of the Week #20: Sneasel
Pokemon of the Week #21: Mareep --- Pokemon of the Week #22: Deoxys
Pokemon of the Week #23: Meditite --- Pokemon of the Week #24: Scyther
Pokemon of the Week #25: Plusle --- Pokemon of the Week #26: Milotic
Pokemon of the Week #27: Delibird --- Pokemon of the Week #28: Cradily
Pokemon of the Week #29: Raichu --- Pokemon of the Week #30: Shiftry
Pokemon of the Week #31: Absol --- Pokemon of the Week #32: Totodile
Pokemon of the Week #33: Mudkip --- Pokemon of the Week #34: Claydol
Pokemon of the Week #35: Flygon --- Pokemon of the Week #36: Zigzagoon
Pokemon of the Week #37: Blaziken --- Pokemon of the Week #38: Charizard
Pokemon of the Week #39: Golem 1st --- Pokemon of the Week #40: Electivire
Pokemon of the Week #41: Steelix --- Pokemon of the Week #42: Empoleon
Pokemon of the Week #43: Mew --- Pokemon of the Week #44: Rhyperior
Pokemon of the Week #45: Parasect --- Pokemon of the Week #46: Hippowdon
Pokemon of the Week #47: Toxicroak --- Pokemon of the Week #48: Abomasnow
Pokemon of the Week #49: Hitmontop --- Pokemon of the Week #50: Drifblim
Pokemon of the Week #51: Torterra --- Pokemon of the Week #52: Armaldo
Pokemon of the Week #53: Lucario --- Pokemon of the Week #54: Golem 2nd
Pokemon of the Week #55: Garchomp --- Pokemon of the Week #56: Gallade
Pokemon of the Week #57: Jumpluff --- Pokemon of the Week #58: Whiscash
Pokemon of the Week #59: Ursaring

P.S. this thread was not made for typhlame

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-05-2007, 09:20 PM

El Zard - Awesome = Typhlosion.
There, I said it.

And remember, "I'm-a Charizard, number, well, six."

Sarai and Samiel · 08-05-2007, 10:26 PM

As with Charizard and the flaming poultry, I'm afraid this is one of those ones that never really piqued my interest as a starter. I believe this roots waaaay back to RBGY, when the one time I did try starting with a Fire-type, my overall team combination wound up doing very poorly even just against regular trainers.

In part, this can be attributed to my preference for slowly building up my team as I progress through the game (generally, I haven't got a full team of 6 until I'm at the last gym or two), but in part this is because the Fire-type starters have classically had very poor defense (or in the case of Torchick/Blaziken/or was the final form Blaziken?- anyway, looks doofy to me).

In part, this is because I tend to lean away from fire-types- with inefficiencies against rock, ground and water types and no particularly tasty offensive strengths (bug and ice aren't that hard to overcome anyways, and I've never been given trouble by grass). From my perspective, the only serious advantage to fire as a type is the ability to cause Burn, which I consider to be the nastiest 'major' status that a pokemon can be forced to toil under.

In part, this is because everyone and their kid brother seems to go ape**** over the fire-type starters on account of Charizard, or because 'fire is cool', which generally irks me.

AT ANY RATE.

It seems fairly solid, as most starters are, if fragile, which is standard for the fire starters. But nothing about it calls out to me as a particularly cool feature.

Sim Kid · 08-06-2007, 12:42 AM

A very good fire type. I personally like to use this, except for its water weakness, one of the most sickenly-common types out there.

I've soloed Gold and Crystal with him back in the day, a nice reliable mon, too bad he was nerfed in the transition to Diamond and Pearl.

Cold Fire the Ranger · 08-06-2007, 03:33 AM

I absolutely love Typhlosion, but (sorry to bring up an old topic [don't worry...]) I wish they didn't have to totally downgrade it to a low level due to past awful (and obviously undesireable) actions witnessed.

In a less stupid (and more on-topic might I add) manner, Typhlosion, in my opinion, is a great starter in Gold and Silver. Crystal? Maybe not. Good Pokemon overall? I believe I will be able to defend it and all the other Fire-Type Pokemon

Oh BTW Starblade, I noticed you mentioned about the Fire-Type's "inevitable" (probably just twisting your words [sorry 'bout that]) weakness to the Rock-Type.

You forgot 2 things Selene:
1) Mart's suggestions to Typhlosions suggested moveset, and also the fact that on Torchic's upcoming evolution to Combusken, it gains the Fighting attribute. Sure it cuts down the type bonus for Fire attacks (1.50% boost to pure Types, 1.25% boost to mixed, doesn't work for Normal-Type Pokemon and moves), but it totally helps when you face upcoming enemy Rock Pokemon (given the right move and having high enough power due to Rock Pokemon's incredibly high Def rating).

2) Almost all (maybe entirely) Fire-Type Pokemon have the ability to learn Earthquake (via Technical Machine), which will also help Charizard deal with those pesky Electric- AND Rock-Type Pokemon (CaptHayfever, that one's for you).

In double battles, to defend my Blaziken from getting smoked against the Sootopolis Gym leader (can't remember the name on Emerald... something Spanish/French?), I always bring up an Electric-Type Pokemon to defend Blaziken (I need XP for leveling it up). Not Grass-Type though, as all of the opposing Pokemon know Ice Beam (damn you Game Freak)

I will add to the fact that in all my years of leveling up my Charmander, Cyndaquil, and Torchic (I haven't played Diamond or Pearl yet), I haven't failed with them (at least I haven't when I became more experienced, Which BTW I have become a lot more experienced), so put me up for Fire-Type Pokemon Master (bit dorky but hey...)

I think I have defended my case pretty well.

Fire Pokemon own (period), and Selene (no pun intended), I have burned your opposing attack on all things unholy to Fire-Types.

**L007 is Undecided** · 08-06-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

El Zard - Awesome = Typhlosion.
There, I said it.

And remember, "I'm-a Charizard, number, well, six."

Typhlosion = Charizard - Electricty Weakness - Fighting resistance + Better moves + Six dishes of whoopass.

Typhlosion will always be a part of my Fire/Dark gimmick team.

^ It's Juan.

Sarai and Samiel · 08-06-2007, 11:11 AM

Wasn't attacking fire-types at all. Personally, I rather like the less-fragile ones (Growlithe/Arcanine, Slugma/Magcargo, Numel/Camerupt, Flareon, etc). I just tend to not care for 'mon overall with particularly low defensive stats- which most of the fire starters suffer from- and types that don't give an advantage (or give a disadvantage) against the few types that have given me trouble in the past (Rock, Psychic, Fighting, Poison).

As I concluded my previous post here with- seems fairly solid, but not for me.

The Doctor · 08-06-2007, 11:38 AM

Typho and Lugia waltzed through the E4 on my game, but saying that I don't like the thing. Only in it's first stage I find the thing cool.

X-3 · 08-11-2007, 05:31 PM

I love Typhlosion. It was my first starter ever, though at that time I was a complete n00b to Pokemon. I'd give it about a 8/10 or so...

Typhlame. Deal with it. · 08-11-2007, 06:57 PM

Hello, hello.

Tad Venture · 08-11-2007, 10:29 PM

You guys are missing the fact that Solar Beam takes out Water, Rock, and Ground types, which covers all of its weaknesses.

Sarai and Samiel · 08-11-2007, 11:11 PM

...except that Solarbeam takes two turns to fire once however you slice it, since using Sunny Day takes a turn- so by that time your opponent has likely KOed your Typhlosion- and can even swap and wipe it if they have something fast with a strong Stone, Ground, or Water move. Nevermind the other Fire-resistant type (Dragon) that might well have strong Ground or Water moves attached to it and is also resistant to Grass.

Plus, you're thinking your opponent is going to mount only the same type of move as his 'mon has- and if you're willing to mount Solarbeam on a Fire-type, clearly that's not the status quo in your battling environment and even if you catch someone offguard with it the first time, you're not likely to again.

If you can Sunny Day and then take something out with Solarbeam before it finishes off your Typhlosion, you could concievably sweep Solarbeam for five turns, but the chances of pulling that off are astronomically low. If you've outfitted your Typhlosion with Solarbeam, it's only a matter of time before your opponent of choice starts squishing you with a fast Water or Ground type or a Dragon that loads Surf or something to that effect.

In the end, despite its small extra flexibilities, it's still only a moderately strong 'mon, and really not the OMGWOW thing that a lot of people love to claim it is.

Even assuming you're willing to go to the trouble of mounting Solarbeam on it and giving it Sunny Day. (Personally, I can think of a number of other things I'd rather do.)

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-12-2007, 01:52 AM

Yeah, if you're gonna take two turns to attack anyway, might as well use Fly and spend one of those turns out of harm's way. Oh, wait, that's right, Typhlosion can't use Fly.

And remember, "I'm-a just saying..."

**Wyborn** · 08-12-2007, 01:58 AM

Wait, since when in the hell has STAB been split for dual-types?

MC Mushi Mo · 08-12-2007, 02:43 AM

Someone answer me this: What the hell does STAB stand for??

Cold Fire the Ranger · 08-12-2007, 02:51 AM

Super Tasty Aron Babies

**L007 is Undecided** · 08-12-2007, 07:09 AM

**Steel toed boots in ^'s face**

Same Type Attack Boost. If a Pokemon with a Fire type uses an attack like Flamethrower, that attack's Base Power is multiplied by 1.5. Of course, with Dual Types now...

Tad Venture · 08-12-2007, 07:56 AM

Selene, switching into something is a wonderful thing. Switch into a grass type, and you get a free Sunny Day turn while it switches out. They switch into a rock type? No problem, Solar Beam it! Switching out isn't a cowardly thing to do, it's a great tactic and you can use it to your advantage. Plus, it boosts Flamethrower at the same time.

And I know people will put non-STABed attacks on Pokemon that might cover Typhlosion, but the fact remains that if they have a Rock, ground, or Water type, chances are they will want the STAB and will send it out.

I'm not saying this strategy works all the time, like you seem to think I am.

**Wyborn** · 08-12-2007, 11:26 AM

Typhlosion's defenses and typical EV spreads means any sweeper with Earthquake is going to kick him square in the face.

Now somebody tell me when they split STAB for Dual-Types, because to my knowledge that's just not true - Dragonite still has 180 base power on Outrage, etc.

Tad Venture · 08-12-2007, 11:57 AM

Yeah, I know.

STAB isn't split.

08-05-2007, 08:27 PM	#1
March of the Covenant I VOTED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: On a deserted island Gender: Posts: 10,929 Thanks: 804 Thanked 353 Times in 241 Posts Points: 18,423.62 Bank: 127,712.58 Total Points: 146,136.20 Donate	Pokemon of the Week #60: Typhlosion Typhlosion Type: Fire Weaknesses: Rock, Water, Ground Resistances: Grass, Bug, Ice Ability: Balze Best Stats: Speed, Sp. Atk. Shiny Typhlosion looks like this: ML's Suggested Moveset: With great Special Attack and Speed, coupled with Defenses average defenses to hold its own, Typhlosion is a tailor-made Special Sweeper. Nature: Timid (+Sp, -Att) EV's: Special Attack and Speed Item: Leftovers Moves: Flamethrower Sunny Day Solar Beam Focus Blast Sunnybeamer! Sunny Day really boosts two great moves, Solar Beam and Flamethrower, and both couple very well with Ty's stats. Solar Beam takes out an array of Fire's weaknesses, which is just cool. Focus Blast is mainly a filler move, and while not reliant can still pack a punch. Hyper Beam can also be considered. Well...that was easy. Pokemon of the Week #1: Tentacruel --- Pokemon of the Week #2: Duskull Pokemon of the Week #3: Salamence --- Pokemon of the Week #4: Lunatone Pokemon of the Week #5: Castform --- Pokemon of the Week #6: Entei Pokemon of the Week #7: Charmander --- Pokemon of the Week #8: Medicham Pokemon of the Week #9: Jolteon --- Pokemon of the Week #10: Latios Pokemon of the Week #11: Wooper --- Pokemon of the Week #12: Lugia Pokemon of the Week #13: Hariyama --- Pokemon of the Week #14: Elekid Pokemon of the Week #15: Poliwag --- Pokemon of the Week #16: Marowak Pokemon of the Week #17: Kecleon --- Pokemon of the Week #18: Feraligatr Pokemon of the Week #19: Numel --- Pokemon of the Week #20: Sneasel Pokemon of the Week #21: Mareep --- Pokemon of the Week #22: Deoxys Pokemon of the Week #23: Meditite --- Pokemon of the Week #24: Scyther Pokemon of the Week #25: Plusle --- Pokemon of the Week #26: Milotic Pokemon of the Week #27: Delibird --- Pokemon of the Week #28: Cradily Pokemon of the Week #29: Raichu --- Pokemon of the Week #30: Shiftry Pokemon of the Week #31: Absol --- Pokemon of the Week #32: Totodile Pokemon of the Week #33: Mudkip --- Pokemon of the Week #34: Claydol Pokemon of the Week #35: Flygon --- Pokemon of the Week #36: Zigzagoon Pokemon of the Week #37: Blaziken --- Pokemon of the Week #38: Charizard Pokemon of the Week #39: Golem 1st --- Pokemon of the Week #40: Electivire Pokemon of the Week #41: Steelix --- Pokemon of the Week #42: Empoleon Pokemon of the Week #43: Mew --- Pokemon of the Week #44: Rhyperior Pokemon of the Week #45: Parasect --- Pokemon of the Week #46: Hippowdon Pokemon of the Week #47: Toxicroak --- Pokemon of the Week #48: Abomasnow Pokemon of the Week #49: Hitmontop --- Pokemon of the Week #50: Drifblim Pokemon of the Week #51: Torterra --- Pokemon of the Week #52: Armaldo Pokemon of the Week #53: Lucario --- Pokemon of the Week #54: Golem 2nd Pokemon of the Week #55: Garchomp --- Pokemon of the Week #56: Gallade Pokemon of the Week #57: Jumpluff --- Pokemon of the Week #58: Whiscash Pokemon of the Week #59: Ursaring P.S. this thread was not made for typhlame Last edited by Cinco de Marzo; 08-05-2007 at 10:46 PM.

08-05-2007, 09:20 PM	#2
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08-05-2007, 10:26 PM	#3
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08-06-2007, 12:42 AM	#4
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 34,707.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,207.04 Donate	A very good fire type. I personally like to use this, except for its water weakness, one of the most sickenly-common types out there. I've soloed Gold and Crystal with him back in the day, a nice reliable mon, too bad he was nerfed in the transition to Diamond and Pearl.

08-06-2007, 03:33 AM	#5
Cold Fire the Ranger Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Littleroot Town Gender: Posts: 207 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Points: 4,022.18 Bank: 5,715.05 Total Points: 9,737.23 Donate	I absolutely love Typhlosion, but (sorry to bring up an old topic [don't worry...]) I wish they didn't have to totally downgrade it to a low level due to past awful (and obviously undesireable) actions witnessed. In a less stupid (and more on-topic might I add) manner, Typhlosion, in my opinion, is a great starter in Gold and Silver. Crystal? Maybe not. Good Pokemon overall? I believe I will be able to defend it and all the other Fire-Type Pokemon Oh BTW Starblade, I noticed you mentioned about the Fire-Type's "inevitable" (probably just twisting your words [sorry 'bout that]) weakness to the Rock-Type. You forgot 2 things Selene: 1) Mart's suggestions to Typhlosions suggested moveset, and also the fact that on Torchic's upcoming evolution to Combusken, it gains the Fighting attribute. Sure it cuts down the type bonus for Fire attacks (1.50% boost to pure Types, 1.25% boost to mixed, doesn't work for Normal-Type Pokemon and moves), but it totally helps when you face upcoming enemy Rock Pokemon (given the right move and having high enough power due to Rock Pokemon's incredibly high Def rating). 2) Almost all (maybe entirely) Fire-Type Pokemon have the ability to learn Earthquake (via Technical Machine), which will also help Charizard deal with those pesky Electric- AND Rock-Type Pokemon (CaptHayfever, that one's for you). In double battles, to defend my Blaziken from getting smoked against the Sootopolis Gym leader (can't remember the name on Emerald... something Spanish/French?), I always bring up an Electric-Type Pokemon to defend Blaziken (I need XP for leveling it up). Not Grass-Type though, as all of the opposing Pokemon know Ice Beam (damn you Game Freak) I will add to the fact that in all my years of leveling up my Charmander, Cyndaquil, and Torchic (I haven't played Diamond or Pearl yet), I haven't failed with them (at least I haven't when I became more experienced, Which BTW I have become a lot more experienced), so put me up for Fire-Type Pokemon Master (bit dorky but hey...) I think I have defended my case pretty well. Fire Pokemon own (period), and Selene (no pun intended), I have burned your opposing attack on all things unholy to Fire-Types.

08-06-2007, 11:11 AM	#7
Sarai and Samiel Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aisle 12, between the kumquats and the radicchio. Gender: Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 163 Thanked 124 Times in 86 Posts Points: 1,313.01 Bank: 67,253.65 Total Points: 68,566.66 Donate	o_o Wasn't attacking fire-types at all. Personally, I rather like the less-fragile ones (Growlithe/Arcanine, Slugma/Magcargo, Numel/Camerupt, Flareon, etc). I just tend to not care for 'mon overall with particularly low defensive stats- which most of the fire starters suffer from- and types that don't give an advantage (or give a disadvantage) against the few types that have given me trouble in the past (Rock, Psychic, Fighting, Poison). As I concluded my previous post here with- seems fairly solid, but not for me.

08-06-2007, 11:38 AM	#8
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08-11-2007, 05:31 PM	#9
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08-11-2007, 06:57 PM	#10
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08-11-2007, 10:29 PM	#11
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,802.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,416.38 Donate	You guys are missing the fact that Solar Beam takes out Water, Rock, and Ground types, which covers all of its weaknesses.

08-11-2007, 11:11 PM	#12
Sarai and Samiel Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aisle 12, between the kumquats and the radicchio. Gender: Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 163 Thanked 124 Times in 86 Posts Points: 1,313.01 Bank: 67,253.65 Total Points: 68,566.66 Donate	Um.... ...except that Solarbeam takes two turns to fire once however you slice it, since using Sunny Day takes a turn- so by that time your opponent has likely KOed your Typhlosion- and can even swap and wipe it if they have something fast with a strong Stone, Ground, or Water move. Nevermind the other Fire-resistant type (Dragon) that might well have strong Ground or Water moves attached to it and is also resistant to Grass. Plus, you're thinking your opponent is going to mount only the same type of move as his 'mon has- and if you're willing to mount Solarbeam on a Fire-type, clearly that's not the status quo in your battling environment and even if you catch someone offguard with it the first time, you're not likely to again. If you can Sunny Day and then take something out with Solarbeam before it finishes off your Typhlosion, you could concievably sweep Solarbeam for five turns, but the chances of pulling that off are astronomically low. If you've outfitted your Typhlosion with Solarbeam, it's only a matter of time before your opponent of choice starts squishing you with a fast Water or Ground type or a Dragon that loads Surf or something to that effect. In the end, despite its small extra flexibilities, it's still only a moderately strong 'mon, and really not the OMGWOW thing that a lot of people love to claim it is. Even assuming you're willing to go to the trouble of mounting Solarbeam on it and giving it Sunny Day. (Personally, I can think of a number of other things I'd rather do.)

08-12-2007, 01:52 AM	#13
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08-12-2007, 01:58 AM	#14
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08-12-2007, 02:43 AM	#15
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08-12-2007, 02:51 AM	#16
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08-12-2007, 07:09 AM	#17
L007 is Undecided Axe Shreddin' Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: Farmerland. Gender: Posts: 7,413 Thanks: 96 Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts Points: 5,302.03 Bank: 21,057.77 Total Points: 26,359.80 Donate	Steel toed boots in ^'s face Same Type Attack Boost. If a Pokemon with a Fire type uses an attack like Flamethrower, that attack's Base Power is multiplied by 1.5. Of course, with Dual Types now... __________________ Can I has signature?

08-12-2007, 07:56 AM	#18
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,802.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,416.38 Donate	Selene, switching into something is a wonderful thing. Switch into a grass type, and you get a free Sunny Day turn while it switches out. They switch into a rock type? No problem, Solar Beam it! Switching out isn't a cowardly thing to do, it's a great tactic and you can use it to your advantage. Plus, it boosts Flamethrower at the same time. And I know people will put non-STABed attacks on Pokemon that might cover Typhlosion, but the fact remains that if they have a Rock, ground, or Water type, chances are they will want the STAB and will send it out. I'm not saying this strategy works all the time, like you seem to think I am.

08-12-2007, 11:26 AM	#19
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,326 Thanks: 86 Thanked 439 Times in 269 Posts Points: 16,870.94 Bank: 82,155.51 Total Points: 99,026.45 Donate	Typhlosion's defenses and typical EV spreads means any sweeper with Earthquake is going to kick him square in the face. Now somebody tell me when they split STAB for Dual-Types, because to my knowledge that's just not true - Dragonite still has 180 base power on Outrage, etc.

08-12-2007, 11:57 AM	#20
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,802.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,416.38 Donate	Yeah, I know. STAB isn't split.