Good way to counter Roy's Up + B attack? - VGF

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 06-01-2005, 11:03 AM

What's a good way to counter it, or who's a good character you counter it with?

You see, everytime we play SSBM, I like to set the damage ratio high and Roy's Up + B is usually an automatic KO. My friend really pisses me off; he's always Roy and that's pretty much the only attack he uses through the battle. Of course he almost always ends up getting the most KOs (not necessarily winning, though) and then brags about how good he is and it gets on my nerves. I try to press L or R when Im in the air to dodge it, but by the time I recover he has another chance to get at me. Really annoying, I wanna kick his ass.

[ June 01, 2005, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Knuckles173 ]

GRENTLEMEN · 06-01-2005, 11:07 AM

Don't take to the air as much, roll-dodge as much as possible, kick his ass on recovery. Punt him far, keep him busy with projectiles. A good old block always works, too.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-01-2005, 11:48 AM

Who do you usually play as, Knux?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 06-01-2005, 01:21 PM

I like to switch a lot, but I use Pikachu, Yoshi, Peach, DK and Link most often.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 06-01-2005, 04:09 PM

Sucker Punch whoever's playing as Marth.

thunt · 06-01-2005, 06:32 PM

Keep him out of range, and consider using some strong downward Meteors, KIrby's I recommend, but only if you're not interrupted during the transformation.

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 06-01-2005, 07:33 PM

Um, Kirby sucks.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-01-2005, 09:05 PM

^That's a completely false statement; besides, Stone will plow through Roy's attack like he wasn't doing anything at all.

Pikachu: Not sure; try using Quick Attack straight down.
Yoshi: Hip Drop.
Peach: After you air dodge, slam the stick down so you fall faster.
DK: If his Air Down A and Air Forward A don't work, then do the same thing as Peach.
Link: Probably Air Down A should work, or throw a bomb at him.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Koga · 06-02-2005, 01:44 AM

If Kirby doesn't suck I don't know who does. I mean, have you seen his B attack. That sure looks like sucking to me

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 06-02-2005, 10:53 AM

I don't care what anyone says, Kirby is one the the few characters who actually became (or seemed) weaker in the transition from SSB to SSBM.

Cravdraa · 06-02-2005, 11:09 AM

Kirby was easily one of the best characters in SSB. They tried to fix it but they overcompensated in SSBM. All of his moves are sooo much weaker now, and some of them have added delay.

thunt · 06-02-2005, 02:13 PM

Which is why I like to play as him.

[sage] · 06-02-2005, 03:09 PM

[ June 02, 2005, 03:26 PM: Message edited by: Marth ]

GRENTLEMEN · 06-03-2005, 12:49 PM

I'm inclined to agree with Marth.

MaskedSheik · 06-19-2005, 09:04 PM

just don't play with a high damage ratio >_>;

**Prince Toad** · 06-21-2005, 10:26 PM

Kirby and Ness got nerfed, Kirby more seriously than Ness. Kirby's not unplayable, he's just not very good. His Hammer attack is total crap, for one thing; his running A attack is unwieldy at best, dangerous at worst. His B move still rocks, at least.

[ June 27, 2005, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: Prince Toad ]

Shine Dude · 06-23-2005, 11:28 AM

Going off topic a little. Use Falco.

Mr.Hammermap · 06-25-2005, 11:14 PM

I don't need to counter it. When I play, its either Roy (my best character), Luigi, Dr. Mario, or DK. I mostly play as Roy, so I rarely counter it, but as someone who uses it, I'd say the mid air dodge could work.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 06-25-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beam Yosho the Drunkard:
Sucker Punch whoever's playing as Marth.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-26-2005, 12:44 PM

^Check the topic again.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

06-01-2005, 11:03 AM	#1
Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,823 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 85,628.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 124,328.13 Donate	What's a good way to counter it, or who's a good character you counter it with? You see, everytime we play SSBM, I like to set the damage ratio high and Roy's Up + B is usually an automatic KO. My friend really pisses me off; he's always Roy and that's pretty much the only attack he uses through the battle. Of course he almost always ends up getting the most KOs (not necessarily winning, though) and then brags about how good he is and it gets on my nerves. I try to press L or R when Im in the air to dodge it, but by the time I recover he has another chance to get at me. Really annoying, I wanna kick his ass. [ June 01, 2005, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Knuckles173 ]

06-01-2005, 11:07 AM	#2
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06-01-2005, 11:48 AM	#3
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06-01-2005, 01:21 PM	#4
Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,823 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 85,628.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 124,328.13 Donate	I like to switch a lot, but I use Pikachu, Yoshi, Peach, DK and Link most often.

06-01-2005, 04:09 PM	#5
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06-01-2005, 06:32 PM	#6
thunt Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT!!! :punch: Gender: Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,371.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,871.00 Donate	Keep him out of range, and consider using some strong downward Meteors, KIrby's I recommend, but only if you're not interrupted during the transformation.

06-01-2005, 07:33 PM	#7
Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,823 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 85,628.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 124,328.13 Donate	Um, Kirby sucks.

06-01-2005, 09:05 PM	#8
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 19,297 Thanks: 161 Thanked 741 Times in 479 Posts Points: 105,898.07 Bank: 942.27 Total Points: 106,840.35 Donate	^That's a completely false statement; besides, Stone will plow through Roy's attack like he wasn't doing anything at all. Pikachu: Not sure; try using Quick Attack straight down. Yoshi: Hip Drop. Peach: After you air dodge, slam the stick down so you fall faster. DK: If his Air Down A and Air Forward A don't work, then do the same thing as Peach. Link: Probably Air Down A should work, or throw a bomb at him. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

06-02-2005, 01:44 AM	#9
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 176 Times in 118 Posts Points: 104,483.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 122,235.82 Donate	If Kirby doesn't suck I don't know who does. I mean, have you seen his B attack. That sure looks like sucking to me

06-02-2005, 10:53 AM	#10
Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,823 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 85,628.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 124,328.13 Donate	I don't care what anyone says, Kirby is one the the few characters who actually became (or seemed) weaker in the transition from SSB to SSBM.

06-02-2005, 11:09 AM	#11
Cravdraa Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,574 Thanks: 49 Thanked 80 Times in 52 Posts Points: 30,715.82 Bank: 674,667.78 Total Points: 705,383.60 Donate	Kirby was easily one of the best characters in SSB. They tried to fix it but they overcompensated in SSBM. All of his moves are sooo much weaker now, and some of them have added delay.

06-02-2005, 02:13 PM	#12
thunt Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT!!! :punch: Gender: Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,371.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,871.00 Donate	Which is why I like to play as him.

06-02-2005, 03:09 PM	#13
[sage] Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 18,022 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 30,504.64 Bank: 541.22 Total Points: 31,045.86 Donate	[ June 02, 2005, 03:26 PM: Message edited by: Marth ]

06-03-2005, 12:49 PM	#14
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06-19-2005, 09:04 PM	#15
MaskedSheik Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 744.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,244.00 Donate	just don't play with a high damage ratio >_>;

06-21-2005, 10:26 PM	#16
Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,404 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 43,374.19 Bank: 18,304.68 Total Points: 61,678.87 Donate	Kirby and Ness got nerfed, Kirby more seriously than Ness. Kirby's not unplayable, he's just not very good. His Hammer attack is total crap, for one thing; his running A attack is unwieldy at best, dangerous at worst. His B move still rocks, at least. [ June 27, 2005, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: Prince Toad ]

06-23-2005, 11:28 AM	#17
Shine Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sedalia, Misery Gender: Posts: 3,964 Thanks: 81 Thanked 84 Times in 67 Posts Points: 7,970.61 Bank: 177,637.36 Total Points: 185,607.97 Donate	Going off topic a little. Use Falco.

06-25-2005, 11:14 PM	#18
Mr.Hammermap Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: POUNDS OF BEER Posts: 479 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 5,612.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 6,112.00 Donate	I don't need to counter it. When I play, its either Roy (my best character), Luigi, Dr. Mario, or DK. I mostly play as Roy, so I rarely counter it, but as someone who uses it, I'd say the mid air dodge could work.

06-26-2005, 12:44 PM	#20
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 19,297 Thanks: 161 Thanked 741 Times in 479 Posts Points: 105,898.07 Bank: 942.27 Total Points: 106,840.35 Donate	^Check the topic again. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"