Tales of Games - Page 16

Sim Kid · 05-27-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chibimod3

Isn't it a video game cliche that the characters magically change a part of themselves over a dramatic 5 to 10 minute cut scene\fight?

Yeah, even if it is usually a crowning moment of awesome like Ulala invoking the Joker Curse on Maya when she was drunk in Persona 2. (I'm alone in saying I liked Eternal Punishment better.)

chibimod3 · 05-27-2009, 10:22 PM

To CL:

I'm not entirely sure my friend let me borrow that and Legendia and I let him borrow symphonia. I got bored with Legendia but got to close to the end. I think anyways. With Abyss I was about 5 hours in. I do love the battle system and the way the arts look. I'm going to try to borrow it when my friend comes over this weekend. I'm still going to kill him because he left 1 disc of symphonia at his moms house (he doesn't live there anymore) and 1 disc at his cousins. So now I have neither. But its ok because some brat I babysitted stole my memory cards.

To Sim Kid:

Haven't playes 2 but own Persona 3 FES the speacial one with a bonus chapter at the end. I like how Xenosaga 3 ends for mood shift. Then when Collete realizes that she has to rely in her comrades instead of bottling it up inside. Or when Mithos realizes that he has done wrong and asks them to destroy the cruxius crystal.

CuccoLady · 05-28-2009, 03:16 AM

Yeah, Abyss starts getting interesting about 7 ish hours in, when you go to a mining city called Akzeriuth.

Trust me, you will never forget the name if you get that far.

chibimod3 · 05-28-2009, 07:55 PM

Oh, OK. Yeah like I said I'll see if I can borrow it and start playing right after I beat okami. Seeing as how I'm almost done.

Sim Kid · 05-28-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CL vs Zombie Apocalypse

Yeah, Abyss starts getting interesting about 7 ish hours in, when you go to a mining city called Akzeriuth.

Trust me, you will never forget the name if you get that far.

For some reason it reminded me of Azerbaijan.

Yeah it gets interesting around there, but there still is a period where not a whole lot happens. You're mostly just running around activating Sephiroth and in general I felt it was the boring part of the game. It got better around when you fight Sync the second time (And he ambushed me with a mystic arte)

CuccoLady · 05-29-2009, 01:22 AM

Well, that's the part where the actual plot starts, anyway.

*shrug*

It's still an awesome game, in my opinion. One of the best.

chibimod3 · 05-31-2009, 12:50 PM

Well my friend is an idiot. He lent it out the day before I asked him to borrow it. That sucks. Well I'll have to wait.

Oh, he wanted me to ask the significance of Luke cutting his hair while making some vow? I know its a sign of dishonoring your family if your a female but I couldn't answer it.

Rainbow Dash · 05-31-2009, 10:48 PM

i dunno doesn't it signify that luke is pledging to be a different person than luke fon fabre (or Spoiler Below

asch

)

CL give me a hand here

e: wow these spoilers are really inconvenient, shane look into getting SA style spoilers

chibimod3 · 06-01-2009, 11:38 AM

Thanks I'll tell him that.

CuccoLady · 06-08-2009, 11:07 PM

Chunky's kinda got the idea.

Here's it in a nutshell:

Spoiler Below

Luke realizes that the person he's been up until now has been whiny, immature and codependent. He realizes that all he freaking ever says is 'Master Van said..' 'Tear said....' 'Asch said...' and never actually thought for himself.

Then, at Akzeriuth, the reason so many people died was because he didn't think for himself and just did what Master Van told him to do, and he feels really freaking guilty for killing people. Ignorance isn't an excuse, and he's come to realize that.

He cuts his hair to vow to be a different person than he was. Not just to show that he is different from Asch, but also-- more importantly-- to show that he can change, he WANTS to change. Akzeriuth showed him how immature and codependent he had been, and he wanted to do the best he could to make up for that by changing, by using his own head and by becoming a better person.

The hair cutting shows his resolve to CHANGE.

[/rant]

BTW, my friends and I came up with the best Tales of the Abyss analagy ever:

Once upon a time there was a dude named Luke. He wandered into an empty room with a single lightbulb, and in its privacy used the knife he'd stolen from tear and tried cutting himself but missed and chopped off his hair. This depressed him more and he moaned and sank into a corner, slowly hacking up his wrists.
A few hours later, Anise walked in and saw Luke and copied him, beginning to wildly flail at her wrists. Arietta entered the room too, after deciding the God-Generals' suicidal party wasn't emo enough for her. The two girls hacked udp theirs and each others' wrists and Anise left once her hand fell off. Arietta attempted stalking her out but a light bulb fell on her wrist and entered her bloodstream and she died of lightbulb poisoning.
Natalia had previously stayed out of the room because it was no place for a princess, but when she realized her true heritage she entered, cut a few slices, then left.
Tear decided to enter awhile later to recover the knives Luke was still using. Then she decided to try a bit, found it okay, then eventually left.
Guy just stood there outside the room, facepalmed, then walked away.
Jade threw his spear at Luke's wrist to help him along in the cutting process, then walked away as if nothing had happened.
Luke's wrists had become a bloody pulp and he died, leaving Asch to the emoness. Asch gathered the entire world's population and decided to run a mass suicide, when Van, driving his mini-Van, came and ran over everyone and they died.
The end.

Sim Kid · 06-10-2009, 09:06 PM

^That's an analogy?

CuccoLady · 06-11-2009, 12:28 PM

I know, it may as well be the actual game. x{D

Speed · 06-13-2009, 07:39 PM

Guy Cecil is a Nazi.

-Blue Hair
-Blonde Eyes
-His down standard combo goes "SIEG HEIL SEIG HEIL SIEG HEIL" (only 3 without the core skills, so SIEG HEIL SEIG)

Rainbow Dash · 06-13-2009, 09:53 PM

you a dumb

**Loot** · 06-13-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infected By Swine Flu

Guy Cecil is a Nazi.

-Blue Hair
-Blonde Eyes
-His down standard combo goes "SIEG HEIL SEIG HEIL SIEG HEIL" (only 3 without the core skills, so SIEG HEIL SEIG)

What is this I don't even

CuccoLady · 06-14-2009, 01:50 AM

That's ok. Luke is a piece of clockwork.

[TICK TOCK TICK TOCK]

**X-3** · 06-25-2009, 01:23 AM

So, I've been replaying ToS. Just beat up Rodyle.

How did Lloyd live through his early-childhood?

Sim Kid · 06-25-2009, 02:55 AM

Easy....dwarven vows.

Speed · 06-25-2009, 01:00 PM

All in favor of making This Zelos' theme say "Awwww yeah"

**X-3** · 06-25-2009, 10:49 PM

How old is Sheena?

TraitorNinja: Because of your failure to control Volt, the chief has been in a coma for 10 years!
Me: Wait...wouldn't she have only been younger than 10 years old? What kind of village makes a young child form a pact with a thing like Volt? You'd think a village of ninjas would be smarter than that...

My top 3 characters thus far are: Regal, Mithos and Raine.

05-27-2009, 10:22 PM	#302
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	To CL: I'm not entirely sure my friend let me borrow that and Legendia and I let him borrow symphonia. I got bored with Legendia but got to close to the end. I think anyways. With Abyss I was about 5 hours in. I do love the battle system and the way the arts look. I'm going to try to borrow it when my friend comes over this weekend. I'm still going to kill him because he left 1 disc of symphonia at his moms house (he doesn't live there anymore) and 1 disc at his cousins. So now I have neither. But its ok because some brat I babysitted stole my memory cards. To Sim Kid: Haven't playes 2 but own Persona 3 FES the speacial one with a bonus chapter at the end. I like how Xenosaga 3 ends for mood shift. Then when Collete realizes that she has to rely in her comrades instead of bottling it up inside. Or when Mithos realizes that he has done wrong and asks them to destroy the cruxius crystal.

05-28-2009, 03:16 AM	#303
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Yeah, Abyss starts getting interesting about 7 ish hours in, when you go to a mining city called Akzeriuth. Trust me, you will never forget the name if you get that far.

05-28-2009, 07:55 PM	#304
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Oh, OK. Yeah like I said I'll see if I can borrow it and start playing right after I beat okami. Seeing as how I'm almost done.

05-29-2009, 01:22 AM	#306
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Well, that's the part where the actual plot starts, anyway. shrug It's still an awesome game, in my opinion. One of the best.

05-31-2009, 12:50 PM	#307
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Well my friend is an idiot. He lent it out the day before I asked him to borrow it. That sucks. Well I'll have to wait. Oh, he wanted me to ask the significance of Luke cutting his hair while making some vow? I know its a sign of dishonoring your family if your a female but I couldn't answer it.

05-31-2009, 10:48 PM	#308
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,788 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	i dunno doesn't it signify that luke is pledging to be a different person than luke fon fabre (or Spoiler Below asch ) CL give me a hand here e: wow these spoilers are really inconvenient, shane look into getting SA style spoilers

06-01-2009, 11:38 AM	#309
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Thanks I'll tell him that.

06-08-2009, 11:07 PM	#310
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Chunky's kinda got the idea. Here's it in a nutshell: Spoiler Below Luke realizes that the person he's been up until now has been whiny, immature and codependent. He realizes that all he freaking ever says is 'Master Van said..' 'Tear said....' 'Asch said...' and never actually thought for himself. Then, at Akzeriuth, the reason so many people died was because he didn't think for himself and just did what Master Van told him to do, and he feels really freaking guilty for killing people. Ignorance isn't an excuse, and he's come to realize that. He cuts his hair to vow to be a different person than he was. Not just to show that he is different from Asch, but also-- more importantly-- to show that he can change, he WANTS to change. Akzeriuth showed him how immature and codependent he had been, and he wanted to do the best he could to make up for that by changing, by using his own head and by becoming a better person. The hair cutting shows his resolve to CHANGE. [/rant] BTW, my friends and I came up with the best Tales of the Abyss analagy ever: Once upon a time there was a dude named Luke. He wandered into an empty room with a single lightbulb, and in its privacy used the knife he'd stolen from tear and tried cutting himself but missed and chopped off his hair. This depressed him more and he moaned and sank into a corner, slowly hacking up his wrists. A few hours later, Anise walked in and saw Luke and copied him, beginning to wildly flail at her wrists. Arietta entered the room too, after deciding the God-Generals' suicidal party wasn't emo enough for her. The two girls hacked udp theirs and each others' wrists and Anise left once her hand fell off. Arietta attempted stalking her out but a light bulb fell on her wrist and entered her bloodstream and she died of lightbulb poisoning. Natalia had previously stayed out of the room because it was no place for a princess, but when she realized her true heritage she entered, cut a few slices, then left. Tear decided to enter awhile later to recover the knives Luke was still using. Then she decided to try a bit, found it okay, then eventually left. Guy just stood there outside the room, facepalmed, then walked away. Jade threw his spear at Luke's wrist to help him along in the cutting process, then walked away as if nothing had happened. Luke's wrists had become a bloody pulp and he died, leaving Asch to the emoness. Asch gathered the entire world's population and decided to run a mass suicide, when Van, driving his mini-Van, came and ran over everyone and they died. The end.

06-10-2009, 09:06 PM	#311
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,770 Thanks: 75 Thanked 196 Times in 120 Posts	^That's an analogy?

06-11-2009, 12:28 PM	#312
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	I know, it may as well be the actual game. x{D

06-13-2009, 07:39 PM	#313
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,723 Thanks: 1,595 Thanked 319 Times in 223 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Guy Cecil is a Nazi. -Blue Hair -Blonde Eyes -His down standard combo goes "SIEG HEIL SEIG HEIL SIEG HEIL" (only 3 without the core skills, so SIEG HEIL SEIG)

06-13-2009, 09:53 PM	#314
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,788 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	you a dumb

06-14-2009, 01:50 AM	#316
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	That's ok. Luke is a piece of clockwork. [TICK TOCK TICK TOCK]

06-25-2009, 01:23 AM	#317
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,507 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	So, I've been replaying ToS. Just beat up Rodyle. How did Lloyd live through his early-childhood?

06-25-2009, 02:55 AM	#318
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,770 Thanks: 75 Thanked 196 Times in 120 Posts	Easy....dwarven vows.

06-25-2009, 01:00 PM	#319
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,723 Thanks: 1,595 Thanked 319 Times in 223 Posts Blog Entries: 1	All in favor of making This Zelos' theme say "Awwww yeah"

06-25-2009, 10:49 PM	#320
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,507 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	How old is Sheena? TraitorNinja: Because of your failure to control Volt, the chief has been in a coma for 10 years! Me: Wait...wouldn't she have only been younger than 10 years old? What kind of village makes a young child form a pact with a thing like Volt? You'd think a village of ninjas would be smarter than that... My top 3 characters thus far are: Regal, Mithos and Raine.