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Perrin Aybara · 01-19-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

oh god dont' tell me I have to go all "Jay" on you.

Heh...what does that even mean...? Heh.

Anyway, I've only played ToS. I thought it was fun to play, but I think the over-cliched-ness of the game killed any chance that I'll ever play it again.-jay

CuccoLady · 01-19-2008, 11:39 PM

^ Whose ending did you do? Because if you didn't do Zelos's, I highly recommend playing it ONCE MORE for his ending. It is just WOW OMG.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-20-2008, 01:51 AM

Can you turn the voice acting off? -CSM

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 02:00 AM

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-20-2008, 02:28 AM

Okay. That was my main beef. Now I can turn the game into a comedy act like I did for every Square RPG up to FFIX, and most other SNES RPGs. -CSM

Perrin Aybara · 01-20-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CuccoLady

^ Whose ending did you do? Because if you didn't do Zelos's, I highly recommend playing it ONCE MORE for his ending. It is just WOW OMG.

Honestly, I have no idea. How many endings are there? One for each character? How do you get them?

Yeah, I have no clue what ending I got. I beat the game two years ago.-jay

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 02:34 PM

Imma spoiler tag this, it's how you get the different endings BUT there are also many other huge spoilers:

Spoiler Below

When Altessa the dwarf gets ill after Mithos attacks him and you find out that Kratos is Lloyd's dad, you have to go to Flanoir, correct? Well, in Flanoir four people leave the city, and Lloyd and the other three stay.

Now, depending on what choices you've made throughout the game, what you've said in those light ring skit things, and other stuff, some characters will have a higher affection for you.

The three characters with the highest affection for you will stay in Flanoir. The person who likes you most will knock on your door at night. If you refuse them, the person with the next highest affection level will come. If you refuse them, the third person will come, and if you refuse THEM Kratos is the default. If Kratos is one of the three people who likes you most then Colette is the default.

So, whoever you agree to go on a walk with will be the person your ending is based on. Here is how the ending will differ:

-Right before you go into Heimdall's forest to fight Kratos and release Origin's seal, the person will go on another walk n talk with you.

-After you fight Origin and Mithos comes alive in his Cruxis Crystal, he will possess and kidnap the body of the person you spoke to in Flanoir. If Kratos is the person you chose, then Colette gets possessed.

-If you do Kratos's ending, Kratos re-joins you after the Tower of Salvation thing instead of Zelos. Also, you kill Zelos.

-At Dirk's house near the game's end but BEFORE Flanoir (I think...), all the characters will be spread out for you to talk to. The character with the highest affection will be on the terrace, and you must speak to that person to proceed.

These last two aren't considered spoilers so:

-Throughout the game you will notice several other things differ depending on affection, even before the Flanoir scene. For example, a 'Combo!' skit will appear with Lloyd and whoever likes you most every now and then.

-To know how the characters feel about you, talk to the Triet fortune teller. She'll tell you how each individual character feels about you, and if you say 'I dunno', she'll describe the person who likes you most.

Also, due to these extra scenes and stuff with the highest affection character, doing a certain character's ending will tell you a lot more about that character. In Zelos's case, his past is ABSOLUTELY shrouded in mystery unless you do his story, and his story is just OMFG SPOILERS DEEP STORY JUST WOW. Or so I've heard. I'll let you know when I actually get to his ending. I still have three more before that. :P

This could be considered a spoiler, but it's not like OMG SPOILERZ bad:
Spoiler Below

Oh, and the really funny thing is that you can kind of alter Lloyd's love life depending on who you choose. If you pick any of the girls, then Lloyd and the lady you choose will develop feelings for one another. Yes, this includes Raine. Trust me, I just did her ending. XDD

Auron · 01-20-2008, 02:49 PM

I've only played ToS and ToP. I thought Symphonia, cliched as it was, was a phenomenal game, although I have yet to finish Phantasia. My main problem with ToP is that it's waaaaaaaay too easy to get hopelessly lost in that game. It does a terrible job of telling you where you need to be and where you need to go. I swear, I'm not even halfway through and I've already spent a good five hours wandering in circles trying to find where I need to go.

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 02:55 PM

^ Which ending did YOU do??

..I finally beat the stupid Desians in Triet and am now stuck on Botta.

I've developed a system of jumping over him when he starts attacking then hitting his back, then jumping back. HOWEVER, He keeps wedging himself in a corner so I can't jump over him. Then I get stuck in his attack and it's GAMEOVER for me. ><

The really awesome thing about playing on Mania mode is that, rather than being able to get away with just hacking and slashing, it makes you really get to know your enemy. You have to learn their attack patterns so you can survive fighting them. It's really awesome, considering that the dungeons no longer pose any hardships at all... XD

Auron · 01-20-2008, 02:58 PM

^I'm not exactly sure which ones I did. I beat it twice, but I haven't played it in a while. I'm pretty sure one of them was the Kratos one, but I could be wrong.

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 02:59 PM

Spoiler Below

If you killed Zelos you can bet it was the Kratos one.

**Loot** · 01-20-2008, 04:56 PM

Spoiler Below

I think I'll go for the Presea ending on my current run through. Sadly, I have yet to even get her back to normal. =/

Perrin Aybara · 01-20-2008, 06:25 PM

Wow...that's complicated.

I think I got what's-her-face's ending... The ninja chick. Since I remember her being awesome.

-jay

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 07:05 PM

Sheena? Yeah, she's kickass. She's fairly easy to win over.

Yeah, I'll tell ya... if you want to get Colette, Kratos, or Sheena, it's easy. For Colette and Sheena, just be nice the whole game... and for Kratos, well, he's a default.

HOWEVER, let me tell you that if you want to get Raine or Presea, it's best to know that you want to do their ending from the start. Raine NEVER would have shown up in Flanoir if I hadn't answered every question from the beginning of the game in her favor. :/

Yeah, since I've played this game more times than any other sane person, I've discovered a lot of differences in gameplay based off of who you pick. Since my sister only did Colette's then Kratos's twice (she's obsessed><), she never noticed the things I do.

Heh... I never play ToS when my sister's nearby because when I do she screams at me "PLAY A NEW GAME FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!"

***The Doctor*** · 01-20-2008, 07:23 PM

Wait....Spoiler Below

You can kill Zelos

Damn it, now I'm going to get back on this game again.

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 07:38 PM

KRATOS ENDING SPOILERSZ

Spoiler Below

yes, if you choose to speak to Kratos in Flanoir, then in the Tower of Salvation you kill Zelos. Afterwards Kratos re-joins you rather than Zelos, and he is the one who saves your comrades from certain doom rather than Zelos.

Haha, this is one of my favorite things to do in video games. Most people think I'm crazy for it...

I LOVE re-playing games and doing different things with different effects. I've beaten Paper Mario, OoT, and this game SO MANY TIMES that I never even hesitate in dungeons.

Why do I replay them?

To LEARN MORE STUFFZ.

In this game especially, I love to do sidequests and extra things and have different people have higher affections... it's INTERESTING. I end up knowing so much STUFF by the end... and it's really cool!!!

My personality loves to cling to stuff I love. Once I play a game, I can't just leave it. So, I always re-play games tons of times. I love doing it... and I also love trivia and random information. So, I always play games mutliple times to learn cool stuff nobody else really knows.

Crazy I am, but I enjoy what I do. I would be a kickass beta tester. :P

Auron · 01-20-2008, 07:54 PM

^Do you even take breaks in between replays? I only play a game so many times before I need to put it away for a year or so (or for good, for that matter).

**X-3** · 01-20-2008, 08:39 PM

Spoiler Below

There's a way to tell wether you'll kill Zelos. When the party is going to leave Flanior, Zelos says he'll do something at the tower(Forgot). If Lloyd asks, "Can I trust you?", say bye to Zelos. If he says, "I trust you.", Zelos will not die.

I prefer Zelos over Kratos, personally. Despite not having Judgement, he's pretty badass.

CuccoLady · 01-20-2008, 08:46 PM

^ So that can happen even when you're not doing Kratos's ending??

I thought that

Spoiler Below

the only reason you kill Zelos is because you do Kratos's ending, and thusly, Kratos will rejoin your party. If kratos is gonna be there, Zelos has to go. Am I wrong?

See, I've yet to do Kratos's ending. I'm saving his and Zelos's for last because they're the bestest.

And, well... as to your question about waiting between playthroughs? This is the pattern I ALWAYS tend to follow on a game I'm obsessed with:

-Play it through once
-Become so obsessed with it that after it's over, I must PLAY MOAR. So the split second after I beat it the first time, I go for a second run.
-Usually either complete second run and take a break OR quit in the middle of second run then break.
-Play over and over again in spaced amounts.

So, I start out with two or one and a half straight playthroughs. After that, I usually space out my playthroughs... usually about once a year or maybe more often.

In the case of ToS, I would have completed my second runthrough had my game not decided to freeze during a scene OVER HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME. I got so pissed I gave the game a rest for awhile before starting afresh.

I don't see why my sister thinks it's such a big deal that I play this game a lot. I mean, I've played Paper Mario and Ocarina of Time just as much...

Maybe I don't space out my runthroughs of this game as much. It does seem like, whereas in OoT I'll wait about a good year between plays, I tend to wait more like half a year in ToS. Haha....

**X-3** · 01-20-2008, 09:01 PM

^I'm not too sure, to be honest, having only played ToS twice.

Hell, I'm not sure what endings I got.

Spoiler Below

From what I gather, "Can I trust you?" happens when Kratos likes you more then Zelos does: thus Zelos will fight you and die. "I trust you." happens when Zelos likes you more then Kratos does, thus he'll live.

I just realized how badass Regal and Presea are. Presea's axe speaks for it's self, Regal is just awesome.

01-20-2008, 02:00 AM	#24
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Yes.

01-20-2008, 02:34 PM	#27
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Imma spoiler tag this, it's how you get the different endings BUT there are also many other huge spoilers: Spoiler Below When Altessa the dwarf gets ill after Mithos attacks him and you find out that Kratos is Lloyd's dad, you have to go to Flanoir, correct? Well, in Flanoir four people leave the city, and Lloyd and the other three stay. Now, depending on what choices you've made throughout the game, what you've said in those light ring skit things, and other stuff, some characters will have a higher affection for you. The three characters with the highest affection for you will stay in Flanoir. The person who likes you most will knock on your door at night. If you refuse them, the person with the next highest affection level will come. If you refuse them, the third person will come, and if you refuse THEM Kratos is the default. If Kratos is one of the three people who likes you most then Colette is the default. So, whoever you agree to go on a walk with will be the person your ending is based on. Here is how the ending will differ: -Right before you go into Heimdall's forest to fight Kratos and release Origin's seal, the person will go on another walk n talk with you. -After you fight Origin and Mithos comes alive in his Cruxis Crystal, he will possess and kidnap the body of the person you spoke to in Flanoir. If Kratos is the person you chose, then Colette gets possessed. -If you do Kratos's ending, Kratos re-joins you after the Tower of Salvation thing instead of Zelos. Also, you kill Zelos. -At Dirk's house near the game's end but BEFORE Flanoir (I think...), all the characters will be spread out for you to talk to. The character with the highest affection will be on the terrace, and you must speak to that person to proceed. These last two aren't considered spoilers so: -Throughout the game you will notice several other things differ depending on affection, even before the Flanoir scene. For example, a 'Combo!' skit will appear with Lloyd and whoever likes you most every now and then. -To know how the characters feel about you, talk to the Triet fortune teller. She'll tell you how each individual character feels about you, and if you say 'I dunno', she'll describe the person who likes you most. Also, due to these extra scenes and stuff with the highest affection character, doing a certain character's ending will tell you a lot more about that character. In Zelos's case, his past is ABSOLUTELY shrouded in mystery unless you do his story, and his story is just OMFG SPOILERS DEEP STORY JUST WOW. Or so I've heard. I'll let you know when I actually get to his ending. I still have three more before that. :P This could be considered a spoiler, but it's not like OMG SPOILERZ bad: Spoiler Below Oh, and the really funny thing is that you can kind of alter Lloyd's love life depending on who you choose. If you pick any of the girls, then Lloyd and the lady you choose will develop feelings for one another. Yes, this includes Raine. Trust me, I just did her ending. XDD Last edited by CuccoLady; 01-20-2008 at 02:43 PM.

01-20-2008, 09:01 PM	#40
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,507 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	^I'm not too sure, to be honest, having only played ToS twice. Hell, I'm not sure what endings I got. Spoiler Below From what I gather, "Can I trust you?" happens when Kratos likes you more then Zelos does: thus Zelos will fight you and die. "I trust you." happens when Zelos likes you more then Kratos does, thus he'll live. I just realized how badass Regal and Presea are. Presea's axe speaks for it's self, Regal is just awesome. Last edited by X-3; 01-20-2008 at 09:11 PM.

01-19-2008, 11:39 PM	#22
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	^ Whose ending did you do? Because if you didn't do Zelos's, I highly recommend playing it ONCE MORE for his ending. It is just WOW OMG.

01-20-2008, 01:51 AM	#23
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,748 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 683 Times in 464 Posts	Can you turn the voice acting off? -CSM

01-20-2008, 02:28 AM	#25
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,748 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 683 Times in 464 Posts	Okay. That was my main beef. Now I can turn the game into a comedy act like I did for every Square RPG up to FFIX, and most other SNES RPGs. -CSM

01-20-2008, 02:49 PM	#28
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,687 Thanks: 5 Thanked 315 Times in 192 Posts	I've only played ToS and ToP. I thought Symphonia, cliched as it was, was a phenomenal game, although I have yet to finish Phantasia. My main problem with ToP is that it's waaaaaaaay too easy to get hopelessly lost in that game. It does a terrible job of telling you where you need to be and where you need to go. I swear, I'm not even halfway through and I've already spent a good five hours wandering in circles trying to find where I need to go.

01-20-2008, 02:55 PM	#29
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	^ Which ending did YOU do?? ..I finally beat the stupid Desians in Triet and am now stuck on Botta. I've developed a system of jumping over him when he starts attacking then hitting his back, then jumping back. HOWEVER, He keeps wedging himself in a corner so I can't jump over him. Then I get stuck in his attack and it's GAMEOVER for me. >< The really awesome thing about playing on Mania mode is that, rather than being able to get away with just hacking and slashing, it makes you really get to know your enemy. You have to learn their attack patterns so you can survive fighting them. It's really awesome, considering that the dungeons no longer pose any hardships at all... XD

01-20-2008, 02:58 PM	#30
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,687 Thanks: 5 Thanked 315 Times in 192 Posts	^I'm not exactly sure which ones I did. I beat it twice, but I haven't played it in a while. I'm pretty sure one of them was the Kratos one, but I could be wrong.

01-20-2008, 02:59 PM	#31
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Spoiler Below If you killed Zelos you can bet it was the Kratos one.

01-20-2008, 04:56 PM	#32
Loot whelp I'm a bloody moron Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 12,524 Thanks: 226 Thanked 1,168 Times in 612 Posts	Spoiler Below I think I'll go for the Presea ending on my current run through. Sadly, I have yet to even get her back to normal. =/

01-20-2008, 06:25 PM	#33
Perrin Aybara Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 12,760 Thanks: 194 Thanked 504 Times in 235 Posts	Wow...that's complicated. I think I got what's-her-face's ending... The ninja chick. Since I remember her being awesome. -jay

01-20-2008, 07:05 PM	#34
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	Sheena? Yeah, she's kickass. She's fairly easy to win over. Yeah, I'll tell ya... if you want to get Colette, Kratos, or Sheena, it's easy. For Colette and Sheena, just be nice the whole game... and for Kratos, well, he's a default. HOWEVER, let me tell you that if you want to get Raine or Presea, it's best to know that you want to do their ending from the start. Raine NEVER would have shown up in Flanoir if I hadn't answered every question from the beginning of the game in her favor. :/ Yeah, since I've played this game more times than any other sane person, I've discovered a lot of differences in gameplay based off of who you pick. Since my sister only did Colette's then Kratos's twice (she's obsessed><), she never noticed the things I do. Heh... I never play ToS when my sister's nearby because when I do she screams at me "PLAY A NEW GAME FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!"

01-20-2008, 07:23 PM	#35
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,819 Thanks: 869 Thanked 647 Times in 421 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Wait....Spoiler Below You can kill Zelos Damn it, now I'm going to get back on this game again.

01-20-2008, 07:38 PM	#36
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	KRATOS ENDING SPOILERSZ Spoiler Below yes, if you choose to speak to Kratos in Flanoir, then in the Tower of Salvation you kill Zelos. Afterwards Kratos re-joins you rather than Zelos, and he is the one who saves your comrades from certain doom rather than Zelos. Haha, this is one of my favorite things to do in video games. Most people think I'm crazy for it... I LOVE re-playing games and doing different things with different effects. I've beaten Paper Mario, OoT, and this game SO MANY TIMES that I never even hesitate in dungeons. Why do I replay them? To LEARN MORE STUFFZ. In this game especially, I love to do sidequests and extra things and have different people have higher affections... it's INTERESTING. I end up knowing so much STUFF by the end... and it's really cool!!! My personality loves to cling to stuff I love. Once I play a game, I can't just leave it. So, I always re-play games tons of times. I love doing it... and I also love trivia and random information. So, I always play games mutliple times to learn cool stuff nobody else really knows. Crazy I am, but I enjoy what I do. I would be a kickass beta tester. :P

01-20-2008, 07:54 PM	#37
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,687 Thanks: 5 Thanked 315 Times in 192 Posts	^Do you even take breaks in between replays? I only play a game so many times before I need to put it away for a year or so (or for good, for that matter).

01-20-2008, 08:39 PM	#38
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,507 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Spoiler Below There's a way to tell wether you'll kill Zelos. When the party is going to leave Flanior, Zelos says he'll do something at the tower(Forgot). If Lloyd asks, "Can I trust you?", say bye to Zelos. If he says, "I trust you.", Zelos will not die. I prefer Zelos over Kratos, personally. Despite not having Judgement, he's pretty badass.

01-20-2008, 08:46 PM	#39
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	^ So that can happen even when you're not doing Kratos's ending?? I thought that Spoiler Below the only reason you kill Zelos is because you do Kratos's ending, and thusly, Kratos will rejoin your party. If kratos is gonna be there, Zelos has to go. Am I wrong? See, I've yet to do Kratos's ending. I'm saving his and Zelos's for last because they're the bestest. And, well... as to your question about waiting between playthroughs? This is the pattern I ALWAYS tend to follow on a game I'm obsessed with: -Play it through once -Become so obsessed with it that after it's over, I must PLAY MOAR. So the split second after I beat it the first time, I go for a second run. -Usually either complete second run and take a break OR quit in the middle of second run then break. -Play over and over again in spaced amounts. So, I start out with two or one and a half straight playthroughs. After that, I usually space out my playthroughs... usually about once a year or maybe more often. In the case of ToS, I would have completed my second runthrough had my game not decided to freeze during a scene OVER HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME. I got so pissed I gave the game a rest for awhile before starting afresh. I don't see why my sister thinks it's such a big deal that I play this game a lot. I mean, I've played Paper Mario and Ocarina of Time just as much... Maybe I don't space out my runthroughs of this game as much. It does seem like, whereas in OoT I'll wait about a good year between plays, I tend to wait more like half a year in ToS. Haha....