Val gots sum Final Fantasy - Page 2

***Ace Mercury*** · 08-21-2009, 06:49 PM

I don't get the appeal of FF9. I've played it to the end, but it never really grabbed me. You're put on rails for most of three discs, there's no characterization with the bad guys (unlike Seifer or Sephiroth), and the card mini-game was a broken version of the FF8 one. What do you guys like about it?

Oh, and I forgot: one of the cute parts of FF8 was the Chocobo World side game. I played the PC version, so I had that running in the background gathering items for me. We ended up editing its save file with a hex editor so it would give us ridiculous amounts of rare items. Fun times.

**Galefore** · 08-21-2009, 07:18 PM

It's nostalgia in my case.

I love FFIX because I grew up on it, because I like the characters (believe it or not), the music was vastly superior, and because I'm less into games about characters with stupidly designed swords in designer clothes and more into the fantasy genre. You know, because it's called Final Fantasy. And I ****ing hated FF8's card game and considered it a poorly developed precursor to FFIX's card game. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ace.

The bottom line is, you can keep your hex conflicting generator matrixes and your hacking mabobs, it's all about the experience for me. I had more fun with FFIX, it's one of the first games I ever truly loved, and I get all warm and fuzzy every time I play it. You don't get to **** on that.

Also Sephiroth is lame. I automatically disregard all Sephiroth arguments in a conversation regarding my favorite game of all time, because he's a weak villain who did not, in fact, develop, unless 'developing' is getting more angsty as time goes on. And turning into a whatever the hell he was in that last battle.

EDIT: Upon rereading this, allow me apologize for the tone. I don't mean this as an argument, but more as a defense of my memories. I kind of get defensive about **** I love. I'm sorry Ace. You know we still be cool.

**Valigarmander** · 08-21-2009, 07:31 PM

Triple Triad >>> Tetra Master

Anywho, I liked FFIX because it took a lot of the best aspects of the new games and combined them with the best of the old. While most games since VII have been getting more and more different, becoming more distant from the original games, IX felt almost like a trip back in time. It really felt like a NES- or SNES-era Final Fantasy game. I also thought it had some of the best characters in the series (and Quina), and some of the most memorably lines/scenes. I'd put it right under FFVI as one of the best Final Fantasy games.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-21-2009, 07:31 PM

^^^Chocobo World is cheating. Getting the Perfect Game requires you to get the 100 million Cursed Spikes. This is the honest way of doing things.

Tetra Master was tough to master, but it didn't have any of those annoying features (can anyone say Plus?) that Triple Triad had.

And the game was more "Final Fantasy" ish to me. FF needs more equipment based setups and swords shields and armor. Any technology should be limited to World War I era technology. And while FFIX had no characterization of the villains, FFVIII had no characterization of the playable characters, which is probably more important. Plus Zidane, unlike Squall, is someone who has high hangingoutitude. Plus Vivi, Beatrix, Marcus, Blank, and Freya. Even Eiko was likable to me.

Not to mention the great piece of work that is FFIX's soundtrack. -CSM

**Galefore** · 08-21-2009, 07:35 PM

^I was pretty badass at Tetra Master, actually. I destroyed Gilgamesh for hours to steal all of his cards.

Anyway, thank you Val and CSM for putting into words what I was trying to say with my RAGE.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-21-2009, 07:37 PM

FF9 was whimsical, one of the few Final Fantasy games to truly feel like a "fantasy" to me. That's what I liked about it.

ZeldaGirl · 08-21-2009, 08:23 PM

I wouldn't say that Kuja had 'no characterization'. Brahne, maybe, but not Kuja.

**Valigarmander** · 08-25-2009, 04:27 PM

Alrightie, I got my PS1 memory card in the mail today. NOW, it's time to get sum.

**Valigarmander** · 08-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Urgh, I found out the memory card I received wasn't the one I ordered, and it doesn't even work, so I'm gonna try and return it and get the one I ordered.

This is a hassle.

ZeldaGirl · 08-25-2009, 11:12 PM

^

Boo.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-25-2009, 11:25 PM

Play some Mother 3 in the meantime. This topic reminds me of "Wan Sum Dung" for some reason. -CSM

Jesus · 08-26-2009, 12:15 AM

(EDIT) WAIT OMG! THEY STILL DO HAVE NEW COPIES FOR SALE ON AMAZON. WOW!

**Valigarmander** · 09-09-2009, 09:57 PM

9-9-9. The ten-year anniversary of FF8's release in North America.

And I still haven't gotten a functioning memory card. Blast!

**Valigarmander** · 09-18-2009, 02:34 PM

Alright, FINALLY got my new memory card. This one should work.

Okay. Let the discussion begin.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-18-2009, 04:22 PM

So which one are you playing?

You know I'm trying to get my hands on BOTH these games, since I think I lost half the discs plus I have no means to play them with (my PS2 broke years ago). -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 09-18-2009, 04:28 PM

I'm doing VIII first. Then, IX.

Just staring up the game right now, actually.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-18-2009, 04:41 PM

Never been a fan of Liberi Fatali. Time to behead me. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 09-18-2009, 10:18 PM

^ Boo.

Played some today. Finished up to returning home from Dollet. Sweet game... also, considering the first time I played it I didn't even understand Junctions until around Disc 4 (I was 10), so at least this time I know what I'm doing.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-18-2009, 10:53 PM

Next time I play FFVIII I plan on doing an LLG until I get all the level up bonus abilities so I don't have to Junction the good spells. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 09-19-2009, 10:26 PM

Played more today. At the point now where I'm supposed to head for Galbadia Garden.

Man, I'd forgotten how great a game this was. I'm glad I got a copy to play again.

08-21-2009, 07:18 PM	#22
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,255 Thanks: 1,357 Thanked 823 Times in 532 Posts Blog Entries: 5	It's nostalgia in my case. I love FFIX because I grew up on it, because I like the characters (believe it or not), the music was vastly superior, and because I'm less into games about characters with stupidly designed swords in designer clothes and more into the fantasy genre. You know, because it's called Final Fantasy. And I ***ing hated FF8's card game and considered it a poorly developed precursor to FFIX's card game.* Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ace. The bottom line is, you can keep your hex conflicting generator matrixes and your hacking mabobs, it's all about the experience for me. I had more fun with FFIX, it's one of the first games I ever truly loved, and I get all warm and fuzzy every time I play it. You don't get to **** on that. Also Sephiroth is lame. I automatically disregard all Sephiroth arguments in a conversation regarding my favorite game of all time, because he's a weak villain who did not, in fact, develop, unless 'developing' is getting more angsty as time goes on. And turning into a whatever the hell he was in that last battle. EDIT: Upon rereading this, allow me apologize for the tone. I don't mean this as an argument, but more as a defense of my memories. I kind of get defensive about **** I love. I'm sorry Ace. You know we still be cool. Last edited by Galefore; 08-21-2009 at 07:31 PM.

08-21-2009, 07:31 PM	#23
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Triple Triad >>> Tetra Master Anywho, I liked FFIX because it took a lot of the best aspects of the new games and combined them with the best of the old. While most games since VII have been getting more and more different, becoming more distant from the original games, IX felt almost like a trip back in time. It really felt like a NES- or SNES-era Final Fantasy game. I also thought it had some of the best characters in the series (and Quina), and some of the most memorably lines/scenes. I'd put it right under FFVI as one of the best Final Fantasy games. __________________

08-25-2009, 04:27 PM	#28
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Alrightie, I got my PS1 memory card in the mail today. NOW, it's time to get sum. __________________

08-25-2009, 08:33 PM	#29
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Urgh, I found out the memory card I received wasn't the one I ordered, and it doesn't even work, so I'm gonna try and return it and get the one I ordered. This is a hassle. __________________

09-09-2009, 09:57 PM	#33
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	9-9-9. The ten-year anniversary of FF8's release in North America. And I still haven't gotten a functioning memory card. Blast! __________________

08-21-2009, 06:49 PM	#21
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 22,962 Thanks: 558 Thanked 3,205 Times in 1,531 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I don't get the appeal of FF9. I've played it to the end, but it never really grabbed me. You're put on rails for most of three discs, there's no characterization with the bad guys (unlike Seifer or Sephiroth), and the card mini-game was a broken version of the FF8 one. What do you guys like about it? Oh, and I forgot: one of the cute parts of FF8 was the Chocobo World side game. I played the PC version, so I had that running in the background gathering items for me. We ended up editing its save file with a hex editor so it would give us ridiculous amounts of rare items. Fun times.

08-21-2009, 07:31 PM	#24
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	^^^Chocobo World is cheating. Getting the Perfect Game requires you to get the 100 million Cursed Spikes. This is the honest way of doing things. Tetra Master was tough to master, but it didn't have any of those annoying features (can anyone say Plus?) that Triple Triad had. And the game was more "Final Fantasy" ish to me. FF needs more equipment based setups and swords shields and armor. Any technology should be limited to World War I era technology. And while FFIX had no characterization of the villains, FFVIII had no characterization of the playable characters, which is probably more important. Plus Zidane, unlike Squall, is someone who has high hangingoutitude. Plus Vivi, Beatrix, Marcus, Blank, and Freya. Even Eiko was likable to me. Not to mention the great piece of work that is FFIX's soundtrack. -CSM

08-21-2009, 07:35 PM	#25
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,255 Thanks: 1,357 Thanked 823 Times in 532 Posts Blog Entries: 5	^I was pretty badass at Tetra Master, actually. I destroyed Gilgamesh for hours to steal all of his cards. Anyway, thank you Val and CSM for putting into words what I was trying to say with my RAGE.

08-21-2009, 07:37 PM	#26
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	FF9 was whimsical, one of the few Final Fantasy games to truly feel like a "fantasy" to me. That's what I liked about it.

08-21-2009, 08:23 PM	#27
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	I wouldn't say that Kuja had 'no characterization'. Brahne, maybe, but not Kuja.

08-25-2009, 11:12 PM	#30
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	^ Boo.

08-25-2009, 11:25 PM	#31
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	Play some Mother 3 in the meantime. This topic reminds me of "Wan Sum Dung" for some reason. -CSM

08-26-2009, 12:15 AM	#32
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,613 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	(EDIT) WAIT OMG! THEY STILL DO HAVE NEW COPIES FOR SALE ON AMAZON. WOW!

09-18-2009, 02:34 PM	#34
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Alright, FINALLY got my new memory card. This one should work. Okay. Let the discussion begin. __________________

09-18-2009, 04:22 PM	#35
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	So which one are you playing? You know I'm trying to get my hands on BOTH these games, since I think I lost half the discs plus I have no means to play them with (my PS2 broke years ago). -CSM

09-18-2009, 04:28 PM	#36
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	I'm doing VIII first. Then, IX. Just staring up the game right now, actually. __________________

09-18-2009, 04:41 PM	#37
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	Never been a fan of Liberi Fatali. Time to behead me. -CSM

09-18-2009, 10:18 PM	#38
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	^ Boo. Played some today. Finished up to returning home from Dollet. Sweet game... also, considering the first time I played it I didn't even understand Junctions until around Disc 4 (I was 10), so at least this time I know what I'm doing. __________________

09-18-2009, 10:53 PM	#39
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	Next time I play FFVIII I plan on doing an LLG until I get all the level up bonus abilities so I don't have to Junction the good spells. -CSM

09-19-2009, 10:26 PM	#40
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,211 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,552 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Played more today. At the point now where I'm supposed to head for Galbadia Garden. Man, I'd forgotten how great a game this was. I'm glad I got a copy to play again. __________________