19 and STILL not allowed to buy GTA - Page 2

Robotazy · 08-02-2010, 09:15 PM

If he bought the TV and Playstation 3, he can go and pick up any game he wants. It's not going to damage the property, there also isn't a contract that he signed telling him he can't play M rated games when he comes of age.

There's a reason the ESRB Ratings exist, and if Leo wants to buy the game (Even if I don't recommend it) He has the right. If they don't their child going with the latest non-dangerous trend, they should have reconsidered having children in the first place, imo.

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-02-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

wow, uh, that's some p. harsh parenting. you should be able to buy whatever you want if you're legally allowed and it is not something extremely...i don't know, bad? it's a video game. chill out.

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Originally Posted by a traveller

For the record, if I have a nineteen year old renting his own room from me, I would let him play whatever he wants.

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Originally Posted by Loot

Oh yes, I forgot how similar a giant satellite dish is to a game that has blood in it. They're like the same thing!

Vgfian already clarified the point I was making, so comments like these do not serve much point. I will try cats instead.

Renter: I have a cat.
Landlord: No cats allowed.
Renter: But I'm an adult and I bought the cat with my own money!
Landlord: Ummm... What's your point?

Hopefully Vgfian will not have to explain that one.

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Originally Posted by Leo

It's kind of ironic that a responsible parent such as yourself suggests a game that allows you to ATTACK DEMONICALLY-POSSESSED 8 YEAR OLD GIRLS...................................RIGHT AFTER KILLING THEIR "DADDIES"!!!!!!

No disrespect intended; I just thought I'd point that out.

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Originally Posted by a traveller

That said, I am pretty lax about video game standards, so I doubt I will be getting any sort of complaint any time soon.

None taken. I already stated that I am not very picky about that sort of thing, and if you were my kid, I would let you play it. Your parent's views are clearly more strict than mine, however, so you should respect that and play something else.

I would recommend Infamous or Prototype. They have the same 'go anywhere, do anything' feel to them, and although they are violent, I do not remember any sexual content in them. I realize that playing as a superhuman is a little different than GTA, but the free running spirit is still there.

Leo_The_Spartan · 08-02-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by A traveller

Your parent's views are clearly more strict than mine, however, so you should respect that...

Thank you for not taking that the wrong way. BTW, I actually respect them and love them very much. I'm just perplexed (said it again LOL) about the whole "Over-17-But-Still-Not-Allowed-To-Get-It-Or-Even-Rent-It" thing, that's all. It's...perplexing (AAAAARGH!! Must stop saying that!)

**Loot** · 08-02-2010, 09:58 PM

Edit: Actually, let's do this nicer. You're basically making chocolate to be exactly like a nice pile of **** because they're both brown. It isn't.

What do cats and satellite dishes have to do with video games that have no physical impact on the property anyway

Edit 2: I'm not so much arguing over who's right, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is to compare it to a satellite dish.

Oh, hey, perfect new PDN.

Rainbow Dash · 08-02-2010, 10:00 PM

i like how you refused to address my bioshock point, gg next argument

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-02-2010, 10:54 PM

^I did not see your post back there. The answer is simple - Leo's parents do not like the sexual content, but (if I understand correctly) violence/horror does not bother them as much. I do not think he will have nightmares from it. You said it would give children nightmares, and you are probably right - but we are not discussing a child. We are discussing an adult who has chosen to continue housing with his parents.

^^I am not comparing cats or satellites to video games. I am simply pointing out that becoming an adult and spending your own money does not make someone exempt from following rules. I apologize - I was not very clear in my explanation. I will spell it out below, not because you need it spelled out, but rather that I do not want to be misinterpreted any further:

Buying the cat with your own money and being an adult does not make it okay for you to go against the landlord's rules.

Paying for your own apartment and being an adult does not make it okay for you put up a satellite when there is a 'no satellite' rule.

Being nineteen and buying your own games does not make it okay to break your parent's 'no games with sexual content' rule.

I realize that in my examples a contract is involved, but in the parent-child relationship, a contract should not be needed. After reading this topic, however, I may go write one for them to sign.

Rainbow Dash · 08-02-2010, 10:56 PM

might as well turn off the tv too if they're worried about sexual content, everything's sex on there

Robotazy · 08-02-2010, 11:01 PM

Obviously you've never heard of "don't get caught"

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-02-2010, 11:02 PM

^^You are correct. That is what parental controls are for.

^I am familiar with it, I used it a lot as a kid.

Rainbow Dash · 08-02-2010, 11:03 PM

again this crosses over into ridiculous controlling parenting territory at age 18+

i'm trying to remember what i learned in psychology last semester, there were like 3-5 types of parenting and i'm trying to remember them

The Spark · 08-02-2010, 11:07 PM

Umm.. I'm going to take a wild guess at what this is... WAY TOO STRICT? I was allowed to play GTA when I was 8.

Rainbow Dash · 08-02-2010, 11:08 PM

i think authoritarian was the extremely strict one. the rational one was democrative, where the kid had a say in what he could and could not do

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-02-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

again this crosses over into ridiculous controlling parenting territory at age 18+

i'm trying to remember what i learned in psychology last semester, there were like 3-5 types of parenting and i'm trying to remember them

I assume you are referring to his parents and not me, as I have already stated twice that I would just let him play it.

Rainbow Dash · 08-02-2010, 11:16 PM

yeah i am

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-02-2010, 11:28 PM

^I agree that that is a bit much, though I personally would not call it ridiculous.

But yes, very strict.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-03-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by A traveller

Renter: I have a cat.
Landlord: No cats allowed.
Renter: But I'm an adult and I bought the cat with my own money!
Landlord: Ummm... What's your point?

This isn't a rational comparison. Pets can cause damage to a house or apartment, and satellite dishes have to be affixed to an external surface to achieve reception. Your videogame argument is a matter of opinion. The law isn't on their side, either, it's on the owner's side.

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Originally Posted by A traveller

I realize that in my examples a contract is involved, but in the parent-child relationship, a contract should not be needed. After reading this topic, however, I may go write one for them to sign.

Children cannot be legally bound to a contract, nor can adults who signed such a contract before they were legally adults.

IMO, you shouldn't have children unless you're prepared to let them make their own decisions, and not with the clause "as long as I approve". Instead of treating your dependent as a rational adult, and encouraging them to grow by asking them to sit down and discuss it with you, you're only promoting immaturity and your own superiority complex that you've unfairly developed due to the parent/child relationship.

Dizzy · 08-03-2010, 12:41 AM

To be rendundant: What everyone else said.

Alternately, get a similar, lower-rated game.

Robotazy · 08-03-2010, 12:52 AM

You could get Saint's Row 2.

It's like GTA, but much more lighthearted (If you can believe that >_>)

It has its own little charm I've heard.

Rainbow Dash · 08-03-2010, 01:05 AM

saints row 2 owns

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-03-2010, 01:09 AM

^^Excellent suggestion. I completely forgot about that one. Lots of fun, and it does not carry the controversial GTA title. More than likely, your parents have never even heard of it.

08-02-2010, 09:58 PM	#24
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	Edit: Actually, let's do this nicer. You're basically making chocolate to be exactly like a nice pile of **** because they're both brown. It isn't. What do cats and satellite dishes have to do with video games that have no physical impact on the property anyway Edit 2: I'm not so much arguing over who's right, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is to compare it to a satellite dish. Oh, hey, perfect new PDN. Last edited by Loot; 08-02-2010 at 10:07 PM.

08-02-2010, 10:54 PM	#26
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	An oversight ^I did not see your post back there. The answer is simple - Leo's parents do not like the sexual content, but (if I understand correctly) violence/horror does not bother them as much. I do not think he will have nightmares from it. You said it would give children nightmares, and you are probably right - but we are not discussing a child. We are discussing an adult who has chosen to continue housing with his parents. ^^I am not comparing cats or satellites to video games. I am simply pointing out that becoming an adult and spending your own money does not make someone exempt from following rules. I apologize - I was not very clear in my explanation. I will spell it out below, not because you need it spelled out, but rather that I do not want to be misinterpreted any further: Buying the cat with your own money and being an adult does not make it okay for you to go against the landlord's rules. Paying for your own apartment and being an adult does not make it okay for you put up a satellite when there is a 'no satellite' rule. Being nineteen and buying your own games does not make it okay to break your parent's 'no games with sexual content' rule. I realize that in my examples a contract is involved, but in the parent-child relationship, a contract should not be needed. After reading this topic, however, I may go write one for them to sign.

08-02-2010, 11:01 PM	#28
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	;) Obviously you've never heard of "don't get caught"

08-02-2010, 11:02 PM	#29
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Good point. ^^You are correct. That is what parental controls are for. ^I am familiar with it, I used it a lot as a kid. Last edited by Fairlight Excalibur; 08-02-2010 at 11:08 PM.

08-02-2010, 11:28 PM	#35
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	A bit much ^I agree that that is a bit much, though I personally would not call it ridiculous. But yes, very strict.

08-02-2010, 09:15 PM	#21
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	If he bought the TV and Playstation 3, he can go and pick up any game he wants. It's not going to damage the property, there also isn't a contract that he signed telling him he can't play M rated games when he comes of age. There's a reason the ESRB Ratings exist, and if Leo wants to buy the game (Even if I don't recommend it) He has the right. If they don't their child going with the latest non-dangerous trend, they should have reconsidered having children in the first place, imo.

08-02-2010, 10:00 PM	#25
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	i like how you refused to address my bioshock point, gg next argument

08-02-2010, 10:56 PM	#27
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	might as well turn off the tv too if they're worried about sexual content, everything's sex on there

08-02-2010, 11:03 PM	#30
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	again this crosses over into ridiculous controlling parenting territory at age 18+ i'm trying to remember what i learned in psychology last semester, there were like 3-5 types of parenting and i'm trying to remember them

08-02-2010, 11:07 PM	#31
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	Umm.. I'm going to take a wild guess at what this is... WAY TOO STRICT? I was allowed to play GTA when I was 8.

08-02-2010, 11:08 PM	#32
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	i think authoritarian was the extremely strict one. the rational one was democrative, where the kid had a say in what he could and could not do

08-02-2010, 11:16 PM	#34
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	yeah i am

08-03-2010, 12:41 AM	#37
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	To be rendundant: What everyone else said. Alternately, get a similar, lower-rated game.

08-03-2010, 12:52 AM	#38
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	You could get Saint's Row 2. It's like GTA, but much more lighthearted (If you can believe that >_>) It has its own little charm I've heard.

08-03-2010, 01:05 AM	#39
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,398 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	saints row 2 owns

08-03-2010, 01:09 AM	#40
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Bingo ^^Excellent suggestion. I completely forgot about that one. Lots of fun, and it does not carry the controversial GTA title. More than likely, your parents have never even heard of it.