Modern Art

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-11-2011, 02:10 AM

This is pretty much how I feel about 80% of it.

Bomby · 10-11-2011, 12:53 PM

Please tell me you're not reducing all modern art to Warhol... who wasn't really a part of the "modern art" movement anyway.

***CaptHayfever*** · 10-11-2011, 02:02 PM

I like the aesthetics of a lot of it, but not the philosophies.
Take absurdist theatre, for example: The intent of absurdism is to show that life is meaningless; I disagree with that completely, but I still love absurdist plays because they're so freaking funny!

Duchamp was totally a troll, though. "Fountain" is the biggest pile of piss I've ever seen. Literally.
I mean, I have a pretty broad definition of what constitutes art (only two requirements: intent & effort), but "Fountain" doesn't even satisfy that (no effort)!

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-11-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby Pilgrim

Please tell me you're not reducing all modern art to Warhol... who wasn't really a part of the "modern art" movement anyway.

I wasn't actually making a Warhol reference, you can rest easy bombster.

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

Duchamp was totally a troll, though. "Fountain" is the biggest pile of piss I've ever seen. Literally.
I mean, I have a pretty broad definition of what constitutes art (only two requirements: intent & effort), but "Fountain" doesn't even satisfy that (no effort)!

The more able I am with art in general, the more I seem to realize Douchecamp and basically every major artist ever resented the austere culture surrounding art, and then the poseurs surrounding that culture even more.

***Ace Mercury*** · 10-11-2011, 02:53 PM

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Douchecamp

Ha ha. I see what you did there.

Anyways, I love the Fountain. I argue that there is intent and effort, the effort similar to the amount of effort a photographer uses when he takes a picture of, um, a urinal.

There's art, and there's good art, and there's terrible art. You can use your works to make a statement (perhaps "the art community has no clothes" or a more sincere "this is actually pretty nice looking"), and you can use your works as a tool to further your own ends (i.e. troll other artists).

CuccoLady · 10-11-2011, 04:32 PM

I can't wait to see what we come up with for our NEXT big art movement.

Bomby · 10-11-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

Duchamp was totally a troll, though.

But Duchamp was Dada, not modernism. Also, I absolutely love some of the guy's work.

***Booyakasha*** · 10-12-2011, 12:11 AM

I don't know enough about modern art to say anything about it worth the hearing.

...although, philistine that I am, I will say that I'm not as impressed by visual gibberish as by the Triumph of Amphitrite.

***CaptHayfever*** · 10-12-2011, 12:46 AM

^^I have a hard time distinguishing between modern art & Modern art sometimes, largely because I dislike manifestos so much. The same thing I said about absurdism applies to dada as well; I love the presentation but hate the message.

And I know there's more to Marcel than just "Fountain". Indeed, "LHOOQ" is actually rather clever. It helps that he actually did something that time.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-12-2011, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Mercury

Ha ha. I see what you did there.

Yeah, he got burned. Too hot to handle.

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Originally Posted by Bomby Pilgrim

But Duchamp was Dada, not modernism. Also, I absolutely love some of the guy's work.

Oh, I like plenty of his stuff. That doesn't make me think that he wasn't playing everyone, that's the point of dada.

Bomby · 10-12-2011, 08:56 AM

Well, yeah, he was playing everyone, which actually kind of makes me admire him more.

Also, I love the message of absurdism. When you simplify it down to "everything is meaningless," you have nihilism, not absurdism. Absurdism values that while it is humanly impossible to find intrinsic meaning in the universe (i.e. "the meaning of life"), the person is ultimately able to create his or her own meaning.

But that's for the philosophy forum, so yeah.

Sim Kid · 10-12-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CuccoLady

I can't wait to see what we come up with for our NEXT big art movement.

If it's like any other art movements, it'll be made as a response to these art trends. Someone who took more advanced levels of art history joked that art movements were basically just trolls making fun of the previous movement(s).

But it was made as a joke - art movements are way more complex than just saying "Take that!" to the previous generation(s).

Antisocial · 10-12-2011, 10:37 AM

MODERN ART

I LOATHE MODERN ART

10-11-2011, 02:10 AM	#1
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Modern Art This is pretty much how I feel about 80% of it.

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CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	This is assuming that it won't be fanart I can't wait to see what we come up with for our NEXT big art movement.

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Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Please tell me you're not reducing all modern art to Warhol... who wasn't really a part of the "modern art" movement anyway.

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*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	I like the aesthetics of a lot of it, but not the philosophies. Take absurdist theatre, for example: The intent of absurdism is to show that life is meaningless; I disagree with that completely, but I still love absurdist plays because they're so freaking funny! Duchamp was totally a troll, though. "Fountain" is the biggest pile of piss I've ever seen. Literally. I mean, I have a pretty broad definition of what constitutes art (only two requirements: intent & effort), but "Fountain" doesn't even satisfy that (no effort)! And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	I don't know enough about modern art to say anything about it worth the hearing. ...although, philistine that I am, I will say that I'm not as impressed by visual gibberish as by the Triumph of Amphitrite.

10-12-2011, 12:46 AM	#9
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^I have a hard time distinguishing between modern art & Modern art sometimes, largely because I dislike manifestos so much. The same thing I said about absurdism applies to dada as well; I love the presentation but hate the message. And I know there's more to Marcel than just "Fountain". Indeed, "LHOOQ" is actually rather clever. It helps that he actually did something that time. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

10-12-2011, 08:56 AM	#11
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Well, yeah, he was playing everyone, which actually kind of makes me admire him more. Also, I love the message of absurdism. When you simplify it down to "everything is meaningless," you have nihilism, not absurdism. Absurdism values that while it is humanly impossible to find intrinsic meaning in the universe (i.e. "the meaning of life"), the person is ultimately able to create his or her own meaning. But that's for the philosophy forum, so yeah.