Jokes and Riddles - Page 2

Panfan · 11-23-2007, 12:16 PM

The answer is simple:

Eli Whitney and the Cotton Gin.

Rainbow Dash · 11-23-2007, 12:33 PM

You pull the knot free. Not that hard if you pull hard enough.

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-23-2007, 12:55 PM

I'm not buying it. I doubt that a person, despite how much Boy Scout training, could tie a slipknot that can support his weight, but free up on his weight plus a few more kilos.

Rainbow Dash · 11-23-2007, 02:28 PM

He could slide down the rope.

Granted, ropeburn hurts like a bitch, but he would still be alive.

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-23-2007, 02:36 PM

There is a much more elegant solution, one that doesn't involve complex physics equations to balance a free body diagram.

Rainbow Dash · 11-23-2007, 02:57 PM

Didn't you learn anything from Portal? Any solution is the right solution. Now give me cake.

Platinum · 11-23-2007, 06:37 PM

thank you for who ever did this for me... many thanks... i will keep it alive

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-23-2007, 08:06 PM

Seriously, I can't figure out anything more than 57m. Maybe 58 if you're really tall.
Because the only way to harvest the rope is to cut it, and if you're any higher than 5m up when you cut the rope you're on, you die. Tying the ropes doesn't change this. The final cut cannot reap more than the bottom 7 or 8 meters from the rope you're on; add that to the complete other rope, and you're done.

Unless you can throw a knife so hard that it cuts rope, of course, then you could get all of it.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-23-2007, 08:20 PM

The knife throwing trick was something I thought of too, when I was trying to solve the puzzle. Sadly, I was wrong.

Another hint:Spoiler Below

You'll need to tie two knots

Rainbow Dash · 11-23-2007, 08:30 PM

Cut off the top of the first rope. Tie the top of the first rope to the near-top of the second rope. Tie the bottoms together.

Am I on the right track...?

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-23-2007, 09:21 PM

Um... I don't see where you going with this =\

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-24-2007, 12:04 AM

Chunky has just made a giant loop attached to the ceiling. That loop is still 50 meters tall, it's just now more awkward.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!

Wyborn · 11-24-2007, 02:44 AM

All right... you need at most five meters of air beneath you when you drop. Assuming what Ace says is true (and we aren't rendered unable to reach the other rope because the defined length of the person's arm is too short) concerning the amount of rope one can take then one must not need be in the air to cut away enough of the rope to walk away with "nearly all" of it.

That's the heart of it: when we make the last cut we're already going to be on the ground.

But how?

Edit: AH-HA!

Climb up rope A, and cut rope B at the top. Climb down rope A and tie rope B to its end, creating the 100-meter long Rope AB.

Climb up rope AB high enough that you can secure yourself (perhaps looping a section around your thigh), and pull up a certain length below you - if your body is two meters long, let's cut at a spot three meters below you. Hold onto that 95 meters of rope - put it in your teeth. Now take the 3 meters hanging below you and tie it into a loop. Feed the end of the 95 meters of rope through the loop until both ends are 2.5 meters off the ground. Now grab both sides of the rope and just slide down.

When you are on the ground, pull one end of the rope.

BAM! Walk out with 95 meters. Adjust to taste, trim off a bit if you want to leave part of rope B as a safety harness.

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-24-2007, 10:22 AM

Yes, that's basically the solution. Congratulations; this means you're awesome.

The Willful Wanderer · 11-24-2007, 01:18 PM

Gnarch. Didn't see page 2 here.

Also: Huh. Interesting.

11-24-2007, 02:44 AM	#33
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	All right... you need at most five meters of air beneath you when you drop. Assuming what Ace says is true (and we aren't rendered unable to reach the other rope because the defined length of the person's arm is too short) concerning the amount of rope one can take then one must not need be in the air to cut away enough of the rope to walk away with "nearly all" of it. That's the heart of it: when we make the last cut we're already going to be on the ground. But how? Edit: AH-HA! Climb up rope A, and cut rope B at the top. Climb down rope A and tie rope B to its end, creating the 100-meter long Rope AB. Climb up rope AB high enough that you can secure yourself (perhaps looping a section around your thigh), and pull up a certain length below you - if your body is two meters long, let's cut at a spot three meters below you. Hold onto that 95 meters of rope - put it in your teeth. Now take the 3 meters hanging below you and tie it into a loop. Feed the end of the 95 meters of rope through the loop until both ends are 2.5 meters off the ground. Now grab both sides of the rope and just slide down. When you are on the ground, pull one end of the rope. BAM! Walk out with 95 meters. Adjust to taste, trim off a bit if you want to leave part of rope B as a safety harness. Last edited by Wyborn; 11-24-2007 at 03:06 AM.

11-23-2007, 12:16 PM	#21
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,805 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,337 Posts Blog Entries: 15	The answer is simple: Eli Whitney and the Cotton Gin.

11-23-2007, 12:33 PM	#22
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,399 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	You pull the knot free. Not that hard if you pull hard enough.

11-23-2007, 12:55 PM	#23
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I'm not buying it. I doubt that a person, despite how much Boy Scout training, could tie a slipknot that can support his weight, but free up on his weight plus a few more kilos.

11-23-2007, 02:28 PM	#24
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,399 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	He could slide down the rope. Granted, ropeburn hurts like a bitch, but he would still be alive.

11-23-2007, 02:36 PM	#25
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	There is a much more elegant solution, one that doesn't involve complex physics equations to balance a free body diagram.

11-23-2007, 02:57 PM	#26
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,399 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	Didn't you learn anything from Portal? Any solution is the right solution. Now give me cake.

11-23-2007, 06:37 PM	#27
Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wv Gender: Posts: 1,369 Thanks: 48 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts	thank you for who ever did this for me... many thanks... i will keep it alive

11-23-2007, 08:06 PM	#28
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Seriously, I can't figure out anything more than 57m. Maybe 58 if you're really tall. Because the only way to harvest the rope is to cut it, and if you're any higher than 5m up when you cut the rope you're on, you die. Tying the ropes doesn't change this. The final cut cannot reap more than the bottom 7 or 8 meters from the rope you're on; add that to the complete other rope, and you're done. Unless you can throw a knife so hard that it cuts rope, of course, then you could get all of it. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

11-23-2007, 08:20 PM	#29
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	The knife throwing trick was something I thought of too, when I was trying to solve the puzzle. Sadly, I was wrong. Another hint:Spoiler Below You'll need to tie two knots

11-23-2007, 08:30 PM	#30
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,399 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	Cut off the top of the first rope. Tie the top of the first rope to the near-top of the second rope. Tie the bottoms together. Am I on the right track...?

11-23-2007, 09:21 PM	#31
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Um... I don't see where you going with this =\

11-24-2007, 12:04 AM	#32
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Chunky has just made a giant loop attached to the ceiling. That loop is still 50 meters tall, it's just now more awkward. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!

11-24-2007, 10:22 AM	#34
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Yes, that's basically the solution. Congratulations; this means you're awesome.

11-24-2007, 01:18 PM	#35
The Willful Wanderer Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aisle 12, between the kumquats and the radicchio. Gender: Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 168 Thanked 137 Times in 90 Posts	Gnarch. Didn't see page 2 here. Also: Huh. Interesting.