Super Mario Mafia! TOWNIES WIN!!!!

[LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT]

Originally Posted by CuccoLady

^^ What?

^ Part of me doubted the SML lynch too last game, and I didn't listen to it. ;{D

Buut, it's your choice. Still at this point, I'd rather talk it over more before lynching someone. It can't hurt to wait-- maybe something will happen to help get evidence for days later on, or maybe something will change your mind, or something. No need for bloodthirstiness.

Naturally, but, SML didn't defend himself last game which lead to a false impression, Blake actually has the oppertuinity to change my mind.

[CuccoLady]

^^ No, I don't know what you're talking about,. My post was at DT, which I edited in later.

^ True, but there are too many votes on him now that I fear are just bandwagon "ohey let's lynch someone on day one' right now. Then again that's probably true of any lynch, but hey. I just want us to stop and think before a lynch.

[LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT]

STOP AND THINK, BEFORE YOU LYNCH.

-CUCCOLADY

[CuccoLady]

That doesn't rhyme you fail.

Now may I inquire as to why exactly you think Blake is suspicious? :{D

[LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT]

Truth of the matter is, that I have no grounds to base my evidence off rather than he's giving off bad vibes and his reactions to being questioned are a bit paniky, other than that it's pure instinct.

[heh]

^^ he freaked the **** out at a random joke, he went "doot doot doot random lynch", he freaked out when people went "hey thats pretty weird" and made large posts at minor nitpicks, and he tossed out a bunch of vague-but-useless role information almost immediately. the only reason im not voting him right now is because of how suspicious the sudden dogpile of votes on him was before the second large post but i'll probably put it back on later or something idk.

[Deku Trii]

Originally Posted by CuccoLady

Sounds to me like you think she actually wants to abstain.

She used an argument that we've had little luck finding mafia day 1 to justify voting abstain. I responded to the logic of the argument, because I know that she knows the town actively voting to abstain wouldn't help anything, and that she knows that most of the town know the same thing.

Why did you say she never implied she wanted to abstain, though, her response to my post? I don't believe it's what she actually wants, but she has implied it on occasion.

[ZeldaGirl]

^^ he freaked the **** out at a random joke, he went "doot doot doot random lynch", he freaked out when people went "hey thats pretty weird" and made large posts at minor nitpicks, and he tossed out a bunch of vague-but-useless role information almost immediately. the only reason im not voting him right now is because of how suspicious the sudden dogpile of votes on him was before the second large post but i'll probably put it back on later or something idk.

No.

Originally Posted by Blake

Aaaah, now I see what you did. At least that helps me identify what I believe to be a townie now.

Oh, when you said 'trap sprung' I automatically assumed you were hoping for other members to pile votes on Chunky with you.

That's not freaking out.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by Deku Trii

Does it really help, Blake, to point out that you aren't doing the things that you are aware have been characteristic of your behavior as mafia before? Your awareness of those things you think would give you away would lead you to avoid those patterns if you were mafia now, wouldn't they?

I think you're giving me more credit than I deserve. If you truly think I'm mafia and think I adapted to a new playing style then I'll take that as a compliment. If I adapted to a new playing style, one would think I would either have knocked off a few votes off myself or would have considered the risk I took would be a bad idea and to avoid it altogether since it would blatantly put my 'mafia self' in the spotlight.

However if I adapted in any way in the past mafia games I've noticed that inactivity during the daytime grants a huge advantage to the mafia. And lo' and behold if I succeeded in anything, it was that at least.

Originally Posted by KirbyBoy2000

Hey Blake, if you're not mafia mind explaining whatever it is you're trying to do, cause I don't get it.

I try not to care much about what people say, but really; pretty much all of your posts seem to me like you're trying to appear 'helpful' or 'town' while not actually doing much. And if you actually are then there's no reason to even bother with that sort of thing... -_-

Well you could say I am frustrated when I looked at the mafia topic about three times over the span of 6 hours or so the other day only to see that Tazy's vote list was still the last post in the topic. So I came up with the idea of the 'randomly voting' charade since abstaining grants a 0% victory for the town. However I would still rather vote today and attempt to find a mafia than to abstain even if the chances are low.

Now if you guys honestly want to abstain many days and hope the vig cleans up the mafia for us then I can't stop you guys. I am by no means an HoTD that could convince you guys otherwise.

Originally Posted by a dirty LIEberal

^^ he freaked the **** out at a random joke, he went "doot doot doot random lynch", he freaked out when people went "hey thats pretty weird" and made large posts at minor nitpicks, and he tossed out a bunch of vague-but-useless role information almost immediately. the only reason im not voting him right now is because of how suspicious the sudden dogpile of votes on him was before the second large post but i'll probably put it back on later or something idk.

So if I didn't answer everyone's posts asking why I did what I did in the last post as well as answering questions in this post what am I supposed to do? Ignore the questions and hope I can sink back into the shadows? Possibly I'd do that if I were Mafia Blake.

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Speaking of vague but useless role information (the other non important things I referred to earlier):

- I'm aware that two status effects exist. When players come out and admit what status effect they were affected by on Day 2, I will acknowledge the existence of those two.

- The other thing I was considering saying was how my character looked like, what two colors the character primarily consists of. However I'm afraid that could make my role too obvious.

[I am nobody]

Hmm...

Unvote: Blake

For now, anyway. We've still got some time before the vote deadline, and it's true that your strategy has been fairly static as mafia.


You could easily have changed it, but I'm going to wait for a little more evidence before voting again.

[Deku Trii]

[Robotazy]

Vote List

Blake (3): Chunky, Masahiro, Deku Trii

S1x (2): Valigarmander, Random User

Deku Trii (1): Daos

Cuccolady (1): Panfan

Abstain (1): Zeldagirl

Masahiro (1): Cuccolady

Jenocide (1): S1x

FoS List:

Blake: Panfan, Marchie, Weegee, Jenocide

Deku Trii: Cuccolady

Cuccolady: Weegee


With 18 people, it takes 10 to lynch

You guys also have less then 48 hours. (Damn, this is actually pretty short. Wasn't it supposed to be longer? >_>)

[Luigiman7]

Originally Posted by Tazy Ten

Damn, this is actually pretty short. Wasn't it supposed to be longer? >_>

That's what she said.

[KirbyBoy2000]

Well, this day is pretty disgraceful so far. There's not even 6 pages in the game right now and the day ends in about 27 hours from now (unless its 8PM in some other time zone or something). Add to the fact there's not much being said despite the posts that we do have and I'm kind of upset at it all.

So... are we actually going to be doing anything with this day or are we letting this pass by without anything happening?

Oh, right.

Vote: Weegee

I can't say I'm a fan of the whole "Post a lot, but say nothing" thing you sort of have going for you right now.

[ZeldaGirl]

Add to the fact there's not much being said despite the posts that we do have and I'm kind of upset at it all.

Every time someone posts, something is being said. Even if, like Weegee, they seem to 'say nothing'. Weegee's 'saying thing' is translating to you as 'saying something' about his alignment. I think the problem here is that you're expecting things that are being said to stand out to you as being worth consideration.

[I am nobody]

Weegee is acting pretty much the same way he did in SSB mafia. Whether or not he posts anything useful probably won't be a great alignment indicator.

[Luigiman7]

What can I say? I said before, it's only day one. Maybe it'll get better later.

[S1x]

In all the recent games where the Mafia has won, the number 1 killer that sealed victory was apathy from the town. Even if you promise you'll do more the next day, you're sort of letting an extra kill happen before you really get started.

[Deku Trii]

Originally Posted by Blake

I think you're giving me more credit than I deserve. If you truly think I'm mafia and think I adapted to a new playing style then I'll take that as a compliment. If I adapted to a new playing style, one would think I would either have knocked off a few votes off myself or would have considered the risk I took would be a bad idea and to avoid it altogether since it would blatantly put my 'mafia self' in the spotlight.

Feel free to take it as a compliment, though if you are mafia you've missed the point of recognizing your tells. Not falling into your old patterns as mafia doesn't help convince anyone you're a townie if you announce that you're aware of those patterns. If you're aware of those patterns, of course you wouldn't behave the same way, because you want people to notice you're not doing those things.

That your new behavior didn't prevent votes that went towards you doesn't really mean anything, unless you believe strategies can't end up unsuccessful. And no, one wouldn't necessarily assume that you wouldn't take a risk.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by Deku Trii

Feel free to take it as a compliment, though if you are mafia you've missed the point of recognizing your tells. Not falling into your old patterns as mafia doesn't help convince anyone you're a townie if you announce that you're aware of those patterns. If you're aware of those patterns, of course you wouldn't behave the same way, because you want people to notice you're not doing those things.

That your new behavior didn't prevent votes that went towards you doesn't really mean anything, unless you believe strategies can't end up unsuccessful. And no, one wouldn't necessarily assume that you wouldn't take a risk.

I would argue that changing my playing style isn't as easy as it sounds.

A large part of my personality consists of paranoia. Because of my nature I rarely take risks because I am afraid of the consequences. As a result, my ways haven't really changed because you could say I am afraid of change because that requires taking a risk. If I was one that could adapt quickly to my playing style perhaps I would have won a few more than 0 poker games with my friends.

Because I don't really have an amazing or important ability that goes with my role I figured taking this 'risk' (I'm not even sure if I thought it was a risk or something else to be honest) because am I not mafia, a vig, a doctor, or any other powerful/important role. Had I been one of these I would not jump out in the open like this because now I have a higher chance of being role blocked or inflicted by any other negative status effects the town has tonight.