Is it just me...(major spoilers)

01-13-2003, 10:35 PM

As many of you know, after you beat Prime's second form, it assimilates your Phazon Suit. Was it just me, or was the form that assimilated the suit very similar in apearance to a Core-X from Metroid Fusion? Am I just seeing things that arn't there?

01-13-2003, 11:55 PM

Many have discussed the possibility of the so-called "Worm" being at least related, if not an exact form, to the X parasites of SR388. Many even look to Samus' fourth form of the Fusion Suit (used as the Phazon Suit in Prime) as proof of the matter.

Myself? I have two points of the matter:
1) The X and the Worm, even though similar in behavior, are NOT related. The Worm was trying to gain power by gathering all the Phazon present in Tallon IV, whereas the X did so by dividing into massive swarms. Also, the Worm had an internal nucleus, yet the X were basically floating blobs with no nuclei whatsoever.
2) Samus will likely find herself on Tallon IV once again, but she'll have to decimate an enemy even tougher than the SA-X.

01-14-2003, 12:29 PM

And also, the Metroids were the main predator of the X, and the "Worm", or Metroid Prime, is a Metroid, just a more advanced type. So, wouldn't the X fear it?

Also, I thought that Metroid Prime was producing the Phazon, not gathering.

01-14-2003, 03:48 PM

I had this big long explanation all written out, until IExplorer went and had a spazz fit.

I'll try to write it again.

Now, I may be wrong on this, but I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m grossly incorrect.

As the scientists on the Ceres Science Station discovered after Samus gave them the Metroid Hatchling, metroids are not only capable of absorbing energy, they can also produce energy. It is my theory that metroids can produce any type of energy, once they’ve been exposed to it.

**SPOILER**
Remember the final battle in Super Metroid, where the Metroid Hatchling absorbed all the energy out of the Mother Brain, and then gave it to Samus, along with it’s energy sapping abilities? The Mother Brain apparently found a way to use the metroids’ inherent ability to absorb energy as a weapon. So, when the Metroid Hatchling absorbed all the energy out of it, it gave that ability to Samus, as well.
**/SPOILER**

I think that the Metroid Prime was originally a regular metroid, which somehow got trapped in that meteor full of elemental phazon. As the Space Pirates discovered, elemental phazon has extreme, sometimes bizarre mutagenic properties. Now, if that metroid had been inside that meteor long enough, the elemental phazon would have slowly altered it’s structure to the point where it became what it was in the end of the game.

Now, if we take the supposed theory above as a given, then the Metroid Prime, being exposed to the elemental phazon over a long period of time, not only absorbed the energy, but gained the ability to produce it in it’s pure, elemental form.

In the instruction booklet for Metroid Fusion, there’s something about how the Chozo might have created the metroids. My guess is that the metroids were an early attempt at bio-engineering. But, whatever happened, the metroids simply became too volatile to handle. Now, except for the Metroid Hatchling, which showed some higher intelligence when it defended Samus, I believe that all metroids are simply running on instinctual behavior, ie, the will to hunt, and to devour.

In fact, the metroids may have been what either led to, or hastened the downfall of the Chozo. As it has been said, the metroids almost completely decimated the entire population of the planet SR-388. So, it could be possible that the metroids were created to serve some function, be it either to hunt the X parasites, or to serve as energy producers, or whatever.

01-15-2003, 12:08 AM

^^Metroid Prime did produce Phazon, but the Worm basically took it all back as a last-minute attempt to bring Samus down.

01-15-2003, 09:26 PM

I thought the "Worm" was what the Chozo called Metroid Prime.

01-15-2003, 10:06 PM

Sorta, but not quite. If it were the same form when it crashed into Tallon IV as it is now, it would've eventually become a Metroid hotbed by now. Chances are, it ran into a Metroid and absorbed it, likely while the Space Pirates were setting up base there.

Alex Bissonnette · 02-01-2003, 10:35 PM

in metroid prime it would've been cool if instead of reading chozo lore or pirate data, they had cinematics, to SEE what kinds of experiments the pirates were concaucting on the metroid prime or what the chozo civilization looked like.
am I right?

-Alex [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-20-2003, 03:38 PM

good point

04-06-2003, 03:20 PM

^^That would be cool. Imagine seeing the Chozo construct their city, and the Space Pirates conducting genetic experiments on their own kind in order to create the Elite Pirate.

04-06-2003, 03:45 PM

^Or watching the Space Pirates attempting to use the Morph Ball. But, I think that was just a normal console.

Oh well.

A Genius · 04-06-2003, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chronos:
In the instruction booklet for Metroid Fusion, there’s something about how the Chozo might have created the metroids. My guess is that the metroids were an early attempt at bio-engineering.

If you want the specific text, the Metroids were created to drive out the X.

-A Genius (Metroids.)

[ April 06, 2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: A Genius ]

04-07-2003, 04:20 PM

my theory is that the chazo traveled to zebes (aka sr-388) and found a wasteland of x-hosts. so they made the metriods to kill the x's, then killed the metriods and used the dna to replace the wildlife.
but a few metroids escaped (one got into a metior of phazon makeing the metriod prime) and killed the chazo ready for the arival of the space pirates
and the rest is history

07-20-2003, 01:27 AM

Please note: Zebes and SR-388 are different planets in different systems. ty

xeal777 · 07-29-2003, 09:32 PM

Unless the Chozo lived on SR-388, there would have been no real need to kill the X, but I thought if anything that Chozo were native to Zebes. They must have been given energy absorbing properties for a reason though, or perhaps it was an unforseen result? They may have just been an accident of genetic creation.

Hmm OR (This just in, directly MY brain) *clunk, whirr* The Chozo wanted to study the life on SR-388, but the X were killing everything. I'd assume that they arrived recently by accident, perhaps brought to SR-388 unintentionally by the Chozo, which would be why the X hadn't just taken over everything by the time the Chozo showed up. So they created the Metroids to stop the X, and return the ecosystem back to normal. But due to the unforseen power of the Metroids, they killied the Chozo, and eventually they revised the ecosystem, with the Metroids feeding the X, and the X feeding on everything else.

01-13-2003, 10:35 PM	#1
darkintention Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	As many of you know, after you beat Prime's second form, it assimilates your Phazon Suit. Was it just me, or was the form that assimilated the suit very similar in apearance to a Core-X from Metroid Fusion? Am I just seeing things that arn't there?

01-13-2003, 11:55 PM	#2
shackleman63 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Many have discussed the possibility of the so-called "Worm" being at least related, if not an exact form, to the X parasites of SR388. Many even look to Samus' fourth form of the Fusion Suit (used as the Phazon Suit in Prime) as proof of the matter. Myself? I have two points of the matter: 1) The X and the Worm, even though similar in behavior, are NOT related. The Worm was trying to gain power by gathering all the Phazon present in Tallon IV, whereas the X did so by dividing into massive swarms. Also, the Worm had an internal nucleus, yet the X were basically floating blobs with no nuclei whatsoever. 2) Samus will likely find herself on Tallon IV once again, but she'll have to decimate an enemy even tougher than the SA-X.

01-14-2003, 12:29 PM	#3
Hank the Cowdog Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	And also, the Metroids were the main predator of the X, and the "Worm", or Metroid Prime, is a Metroid, just a more advanced type. So, wouldn't the X fear it? Also, I thought that Metroid Prime was producing the Phazon, not gathering.

01-14-2003, 03:48 PM	#4
Chronos Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I had this big long explanation all written out, until IExplorer went and had a spazz fit. I'll try to write it again. Now, I may be wrong on this, but I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m grossly incorrect. As the scientists on the Ceres Science Station discovered after Samus gave them the Metroid Hatchling, metroids are not only capable of absorbing energy, they can also produce energy. It is my theory that metroids can produce any type of energy, once they’ve been exposed to it. SPOILER Remember the final battle in Super Metroid, where the Metroid Hatchling absorbed all the energy out of the Mother Brain, and then gave it to Samus, along with it’s energy sapping abilities? The Mother Brain apparently found a way to use the metroids’ inherent ability to absorb energy as a weapon. So, when the Metroid Hatchling absorbed all the energy out of it, it gave that ability to Samus, as well. /SPOILER I think that the Metroid Prime was originally a regular metroid, which somehow got trapped in that meteor full of elemental phazon. As the Space Pirates discovered, elemental phazon has extreme, sometimes bizarre mutagenic properties. Now, if that metroid had been inside that meteor long enough, the elemental phazon would have slowly altered it’s structure to the point where it became what it was in the end of the game. Now, if we take the supposed theory above as a given, then the Metroid Prime, being exposed to the elemental phazon over a long period of time, not only absorbed the energy, but gained the ability to produce it in it’s pure, elemental form. In the instruction booklet for Metroid Fusion, there’s something about how the Chozo might have created the metroids. My guess is that the metroids were an early attempt at bio-engineering. But, whatever happened, the metroids simply became too volatile to handle. Now, except for the Metroid Hatchling, which showed some higher intelligence when it defended Samus, I believe that all metroids are simply running on instinctual behavior, ie, the will to hunt, and to devour. In fact, the metroids may have been what either led to, or hastened the downfall of the Chozo. As it has been said, the metroids almost completely decimated the entire population of the planet SR-388. So, it could be possible that the metroids were created to serve some function, be it either to hunt the X parasites, or to serve as energy producers, or whatever.

01-15-2003, 12:08 AM	#5
shackleman63 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^^Metroid Prime did produce Phazon, but the Worm basically took it all back as a last-minute attempt to bring Samus down.

01-15-2003, 09:26 PM	#6
Hank the Cowdog Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I thought the "Worm" was what the Chozo called Metroid Prime.

01-15-2003, 10:06 PM	#7
shackleman63 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Sorta, but not quite. If it were the same form when it crashed into Tallon IV as it is now, it would've eventually become a Metroid hotbed by now. Chances are, it ran into a Metroid and absorbed it, likely while the Space Pirates were setting up base there.

02-01-2003, 10:35 PM	#8
Alex Bissonnette Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: canada Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 700.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,200.00 Donate	in metroid prime it would've been cool if instead of reading chozo lore or pirate data, they had cinematics, to SEE what kinds of experiments the pirates were concaucting on the metroid prime or what the chozo civilization looked like. am I right? -Alex [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-20-2003, 03:38 PM	#9
darkmetroid Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	good point

04-06-2003, 03:20 PM	#10
Pete Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^^That would be cool. Imagine seeing the Chozo construct their city, and the Space Pirates conducting genetic experiments on their own kind in order to create the Elite Pirate.

04-06-2003, 03:45 PM	#11
00bvickers Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^Or watching the Space Pirates attempting to use the Morph Ball. But, I think that was just a normal console. Oh well.

04-07-2003, 04:20 PM	#13
roboshi Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	my theory is that the chazo traveled to zebes (aka sr-388) and found a wasteland of x-hosts. so they made the metriods to kill the x's, then killed the metriods and used the dna to replace the wildlife. but a few metroids escaped (one got into a metior of phazon makeing the metriod prime) and killed the chazo ready for the arival of the space pirates and the rest is history

07-20-2003, 01:27 AM	#14
shackleman63 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Please note: Zebes and SR-388 are different planets in different systems. ty

07-29-2003, 09:32 PM	#15
xeal777 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Offworlds Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 738.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,238.00 Donate	Unless the Chozo lived on SR-388, there would have been no real need to kill the X, but I thought if anything that Chozo were native to Zebes. They must have been given energy absorbing properties for a reason though, or perhaps it was an unforseen result? They may have just been an accident of genetic creation. Hmm OR (This just in, directly MY brain) clunk, whirr The Chozo wanted to study the life on SR-388, but the X were killing everything. I'd assume that they arrived recently by accident, perhaps brought to SR-388 unintentionally by the Chozo, which would be why the X hadn't just taken over everything by the time the Chozo showed up. So they created the Metroids to stop the X, and return the ecosystem back to normal. But due to the unforseen power of the Metroids, they killied the Chozo, and eventually they revised the ecosystem, with the Metroids feeding the X, and the X feeding on everything else.