Topic discussion for people who've beat MP3 or who don't care about spoilers

**Valigarmander** · 10-16-2007, 12:03 AM

Spoiler Below

What do you think AU 313's correlation (if any) with the Zebesian Mother Brain is? Discuss.

Rainbow Dash · 10-31-2007, 03:03 PM

Form only. This takes place after the first Metroid.

Besides, maybe GF took the AU idea from the Pirates?

**Valigarmander** · 10-31-2007, 06:33 PM

...And before Super Metroid.

Rainbow Dash · 11-01-2007, 03:22 PM

...just because Mother Brain comes back in Super Metroid doesn't mean s/he's AU 313. Remember, you destroy 313, Dark Samus, and the planet the AU is on.

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-06-2007, 04:05 AM

The AU 313 was really only designed to resemble the Mother Brain, IMO. In the official(Japanese) e-manga, It's explained that the MB was actually created by the Chozo. It's up to you as to whether or not that's a decent explanation - I prefer the concept that it was entirely engineered by the Space Pirates to coordinate their Zebesian security networks.

Concerning the visual relation to the MB, while the game states that the Aurion system is organic, its appearance is strictly metallic (especially in its corrupted form). The MB is clearly organic in appearance. If the technology were even somewhat related (it's stated pretty clearly that the Space Pirates' tech. is mostly stolen from the Galactic Federation), it'll be the Pirate's attempted recreation of the GF's technology. If you want something to back up the feasibility of that theory, you only need to look at the Pirates' attempt to engineer metroids (Super Metroid's weaker "mochtroids" [sp?]).

**Valigarmander** · 11-06-2007, 06:46 PM

^ Spelled correct.

I like to go with the "Chozo created it, Space Pirates corrupted it" crap. I never thought AU 313 was the Mother Brain, more like a mother brain. I'd explain more clearly, but I'm too lazy and tired right now.

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-06-2007, 08:54 PM

Well, it's basically the same concept, just in a lesser form. The zebetites were required to power the mother brain, so obviously it's not as massive a system. I don't really like the "chozos maed et" explanation they keep throwing at us for everything, because it's just a symptom of bad writing; unnecessary tie-ins. Same with the whole concept in Zero Mission where they explain away the wrecked ship by showing that it's the ruined Space Pirate mother-ship. It worked better in Super Metroid when we were just given the explanation that it's wreckage of an ancient ship. (Ninja Gaiden 3: Ancient Ship of Doom FTW)

10-16-2007, 12:03 AM	#1
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Topic discussion for people who've beat MP3 or who don't care about spoilers Spoiler Below What do you think AU 313's correlation (if any) with the Zebesian Mother Brain is? Discuss.

10-31-2007, 03:03 PM	#2
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,401 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	Form only. This takes place after the first Metroid. Besides, maybe GF took the AU idea from the Pirates?

10-31-2007, 06:33 PM	#3
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	...And before Super Metroid.

11-01-2007, 03:22 PM	#4
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,401 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	...just because Mother Brain comes back in Super Metroid doesn't mean s/he's AU 313. Remember, you destroy 313, Dark Samus, and the planet the AU is on.

11-06-2007, 04:05 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The AU 313 was really only designed to resemble the Mother Brain, IMO. In the official(Japanese) e-manga, It's explained that the MB was actually created by the Chozo. It's up to you as to whether or not that's a decent explanation - I prefer the concept that it was entirely engineered by the Space Pirates to coordinate their Zebesian security networks. Concerning the visual relation to the MB, while the game states that the Aurion system is organic, its appearance is strictly metallic (especially in its corrupted form). The MB is clearly organic in appearance. If the technology were even somewhat related (it's stated pretty clearly that the Space Pirates' tech. is mostly stolen from the Galactic Federation), it'll be the Pirate's attempted recreation of the GF's technology. If you want something to back up the feasibility of that theory, you only need to look at the Pirates' attempt to engineer metroids (Super Metroid's weaker "mochtroids" [sp?]).

11-06-2007, 06:46 PM	#6
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ Spelled correct. I like to go with the "Chozo created it, Space Pirates corrupted it" crap. I never thought AU 313 was the Mother Brain, more like a mother brain. I'd explain more clearly, but I'm too lazy and tired right now.

11-06-2007, 08:54 PM	#7
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Well, it's basically the same concept, just in a lesser form. The zebetites were required to power the mother brain, so obviously it's not as massive a system. I don't really like the "chozos maed et" explanation they keep throwing at us for everything, because it's just a symptom of bad writing; unnecessary tie-ins. Same with the whole concept in Zero Mission where they explain away the wrecked ship by showing that it's the ruined Space Pirate mother-ship. It worked better in Super Metroid when we were just given the explanation that it's wreckage of an ancient ship. (Ninja Gaiden 3: Ancient Ship of Doom FTW)