Metroid expansions

08-04-2004, 08:43 PM

What sorts of additions to the series, gameplay and story wise do you want to see?

Glyph Phoenix · 08-04-2004, 10:26 PM

More NPC's! The plot of the Metrioid series has always been varied, but wandering around on Zebes with absolutely nobody who can talk is not a good plot-advancer. That's the thing I disliked most about Metroid Prime. Did we learn ANYTHING about Samus during the mission?

Those monitors and Chozo scripts rock, though. I loved all the neat things they said about the Space Pirates on those monitors! It's a shame that most of them were just repeating the same thing that they did throughout the game. Meteor fall. Bad stuff comes out. Chozos die. Samus beats the bad stuff.

I know it's more complicated than that, but isn't that really the gist of it? Now, Metroid Fusion had a really detailed plotline. I liked that a lot. It said an awful lot about Samus, and mostly it wasn't even through dialogue between two characters!

Edit: Also, I want to see more SEQUELS, not PREQUELS. I guess from the moment the story writer had Samus get wrecked by the X virus a group of the fans stopped paying attention. So, of course, they went back to Zero Mission and added a part with Samus without armor. But that's so people who buy the games for that reason keep buying them, the game becomes profitable, and more games are made for the ones who CARE about the game series for what it is.

[ August 04, 2004, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Glyph Phoenix ]

Link the Adept · 08-05-2004, 12:41 AM

Mettoid is a series that isn't about plot. It's about gameplay.

Glyph Phoenix · 08-05-2004, 01:44 AM

I MUST have plot. Plot is what makes the world go 'round. What if Bowser didn't kidnap the princess? What would the toad say? "Thank you Mario... for no real reason."

Is it just when the system for a game absolutely sucks, people focus on the plot? Like in RPG's? When it comes to Metroid, are we all just too busy blasting the crap out of everything and collecting little tiny trinkets to increase our crap blasting effeciency to notice WHY we're blasting the crap out of everything in the first place?

For shame, gamers. For shame.

DarthButcher · 08-05-2004, 07:42 AM

Well put Glyph. I personally have to have a great plot to love a game. OoT had a great plot, it is my fav. game.

Back on topic: I believe that there should be mre NPCs(as Glyph said). I also believe that there should be more Playable Controllers. Metroid is awesome in 3-D so that should stay. They should start to either:
a. Completely focus on 1 MAIN villain, and have plenty of side villains. or:
b. A new MAIN villain each game.
Nintendo made it at first seem like Mother Brain would be the only villain. Then they added Ridley. Then SA-X. Now Metroid Prime was a MAIN villain. TOO MANY MAIN VILLAINS IN THE SERIES. Mario has Bowser as the main villain. There are few games without fighting Bowser. Back talking about more Playable Charcters. In different Mrio games you can play as different people. That has not yet once happened in Metroid. It has even happened in Zelda goddamit.

That is my $2.

Where is the idiot running to? Why to Nintendo Mania of course. Just follow him for the time of your life.

Link the Adept · 08-05-2004, 06:04 PM

First off, when have you ever been able to control anyone but Link, except in SSB:M? Also, other ther than Bowser kidnapping Peach, the only time Mario games have had plot are the RPGs.Metroid is a game that focuses mainly on gameplay. It needs a basic plot, but it doesn't need a complicated and in-depth one. I would also like to have is be more 2.5d like in SSB. It should be side scrolling.

OcarinaMan · 08-05-2004, 07:32 PM

In Zelda: Makar, Medli, Kafei, and even a Zora, a Goron, and a Deku.

***The Doctor*** · 08-06-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Glyph Phoenix:
I MUST have plot. Plot is what makes the world go 'round. What if Bowser didn't kidnap the princess? What would the toad say? "Thank you Mario... for no real reason."

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Mr.Hammermap · 08-07-2004, 09:39 PM

If Metroid Actually needed a huge plot, then we wouldn't have as much blasting the enemies, collecting parts, and fun. We'd have a better idea of whats going on, but those reasons I listed would stick out at you. As much as would Like Metroid to have a plot, It would make the game less full of new parts to use to kick the crap outta enemies!

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-08-2004, 10:14 AM

The idea is to explore for yourself. Metroid is already being dumbed down by Nintendo with **** like computers commanding you to go one way or another. I don't need Nintendo's standard cute new ideas in my favorite game series. You can gripe about Zebes being void of friendly life, but it's not supposed to have any. Part of the plot is that you are the single invader to an enemy-controlled planet. Everyone else died. And as far as the 'main villain' goes, that's just lame. There is never, in real life, just one person that you have to go after. There is never just one person running the show. They do NOT keep coming back to life, once you kill them. Ridley is bad enough.

You know what I want to see come back? Samus's suit. The blue and yellow are lame looking together. Not to mention how lack-luster the design is.. One more game like that might be tolerable, but I'm not very forgiving when it comes to stuff like that.

[ August 08, 2004, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: A.I. is nakeder than you ]

Dark Magus · 08-08-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Darth Butcher:
Well put Glyph. I personally have to have a great plot to love a game. OoT had a great plot, it is my fav. game.

Back on topic: I believe that there should be mre NPCs(as Glyph said). I also believe that there should be more Playable Controllers. Metroid is awesome in 3-D so that should stay. They should start to either:
a. Completely focus on 1 MAIN villain, and have plenty of side villains. or:
b. A new MAIN villain each game.
Nintendo made it at first seem like Mother Brain would be the only villain. Then they added Ridley. Then SA-X. Now Metroid Prime was a MAIN villain. TOO MANY MAIN VILLAINS IN THE SERIES. Mario has Bowser as the main villain. There are few games without fighting Bowser. Back talking about more Playable Charcters. In different Mrio games you can play as different people. That has not yet once happened in Metroid. It has even happened in Zelda goddamit.

That is my $2.

1) OoT had minimal storyline compared to MM.

2) Metroid should still stay in 2D as well, though.

3) As far as I know, Ridley was before Mother Brain, villain-wise. Also, Mother Brain is on Zebes. SA-X was needed in Fusion because the game took place on a space station. Same reason why Metroid Prime was needed in Prime. It took place on a different planet altogether.

4) Metroid needs no new playable characters. Like AI said, that's the point of the game. You're a lone bounty hunter.

Sloth Master 2000 · 08-08-2004, 10:37 PM

I agree with AI.

Codiekitty · 08-14-2004, 05:11 PM

Metroid has been in a downfall ever since Yokoi was fired and killed. I think the only thing that could bring Metroid back to its former glory is his ressurection and rejoining of Nintendo. Of course, that ain't gonna happen.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

homer · 08-15-2004, 08:49 PM

[Dableetd]

I'll repost later.

[ August 15, 2004, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: ^Don't Get Mad, Get Stabby ]

The Yoshimaster · 08-21-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by CodieKitty:
Metroid has been in a downfall ever since Yokoi was fired and killed. I think the only thing that could bring Metroid back to its former glory is his ressurection and rejoining of Nintendo. Of course, that ain't gonna happen.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

I disagree. I love the new games. Sure, the series is not the same as it was in '94, but then, neither is Mario or Zelda.

About previous statements about Metroid Fusion and Prime... I don't mind change as much as some people apparently do. Prime on the Gamecube is in first-person? Makes for a new perspective on an old series. Samus has a strange new suit in Fusion? Adds a new twist. It's when Nintendo overdoes new ideas, like making sequel after sequel to Four Swords and planning a similar gameplay style to other franchises, that I begin to hate it.

R.O.B.B.I.E · 08-27-2004, 03:35 PM

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The idea is to explore for yourself. Metroid is already being dumbed down by Nintendo with **** like computers commanding you to go one way or another. I don't need Nintendo's standard cute new ideas in my favorite game series. You can gripe about Zebes being void of friendly life, but it's not supposed to have any. Part of the plot is that you are the single invader to an enemy-controlled planet. Everyone else died. And as far as the 'main villain' goes, that's just lame. There is never, in real life, just one person that you have to go after. There is never just one person running the show. They do NOT keep coming back to life, once you kill them. Ridley is bad enough.

You're forgetting "The Man."

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You know what I want to see come back? Samus's suit. The blue and yellow are lame looking together. Not to mention how lack-luster the design is.. One more game like that might be tolerable, but I'm not very forgiving when it comes to stuff like that.

Something tells me that, if Metroid 5 comes out, Samus will have her new suit or an original one. Knowing Nintendo, we might not even get an explanation...of course, they're pretty good with that stuff in Metroid. (Save the docs in Prime 1 lol)

Inferno Dragon · 10-29-2004, 04:23 PM

honestly I love the new games just as much as the old ones (although 2 was kind of iffy for me) and I think the new changes are great, I especally liked the fusion suit's final form (all orange like her old one). but now that she's been fused with metroid DNA and the metroids are extinct the new "main" villan will have to be the parasitic shapeshifting X creatures if they ever make a Metroid 5. but as far as storyline and plot goes, I'd like to learn more about Samus' past in the next one that nintendo makes.

08-04-2004, 08:43 PM	#1
I'm not saying,lets just say I'm really named Link the Survivor Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What sorts of additions to the series, gameplay and story wise do you want to see?

08-04-2004, 10:26 PM	#2
Glyph Phoenix Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Gender: Posts: 1,774 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	More NPC's! The plot of the Metrioid series has always been varied, but wandering around on Zebes with absolutely nobody who can talk is not a good plot-advancer. That's the thing I disliked most about Metroid Prime. Did we learn ANYTHING about Samus during the mission? Those monitors and Chozo scripts rock, though. I loved all the neat things they said about the Space Pirates on those monitors! It's a shame that most of them were just repeating the same thing that they did throughout the game. Meteor fall. Bad stuff comes out. Chozos die. Samus beats the bad stuff. I know it's more complicated than that, but isn't that really the gist of it? Now, Metroid Fusion had a really detailed plotline. I liked that a lot. It said an awful lot about Samus, and mostly it wasn't even through dialogue between two characters! Edit: Also, I want to see more SEQUELS, not PREQUELS. I guess from the moment the story writer had Samus get wrecked by the X virus a group of the fans stopped paying attention. So, of course, they went back to Zero Mission and added a part with Samus without armor. But that's so people who buy the games for that reason keep buying them, the game becomes profitable, and more games are made for the ones who CARE about the game series for what it is. [ August 04, 2004, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Glyph Phoenix ]

08-05-2004, 12:41 AM	#3
Link the Adept Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mettoid is a series that isn't about plot. It's about gameplay.

08-05-2004, 01:44 AM	#4
Glyph Phoenix Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Gender: Posts: 1,774 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I MUST have plot. Plot is what makes the world go 'round. What if Bowser didn't kidnap the princess? What would the toad say? "Thank you Mario... for no real reason." Is it just when the system for a game absolutely sucks, people focus on the plot? Like in RPG's? When it comes to Metroid, are we all just too busy blasting the crap out of everything and collecting little tiny trinkets to increase our crap blasting effeciency to notice WHY we're blasting the crap out of everything in the first place? For shame, gamers. For shame.

08-05-2004, 07:42 AM	#5
DarthButcher Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Nintendo Nation.com Gender: Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 12 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Well put Glyph. I personally have to have a great plot to love a game. OoT had a great plot, it is my fav. game. Back on topic: I believe that there should be mre NPCs(as Glyph said). I also believe that there should be more Playable Controllers. Metroid is awesome in 3-D so that should stay. They should start to either: a. Completely focus on 1 MAIN villain, and have plenty of side villains. or: b. A new MAIN villain each game. Nintendo made it at first seem like Mother Brain would be the only villain. Then they added Ridley. Then SA-X. Now Metroid Prime was a MAIN villain. TOO MANY MAIN VILLAINS IN THE SERIES. Mario has Bowser as the main villain. There are few games without fighting Bowser. Back talking about more Playable Charcters. In different Mrio games you can play as different people. That has not yet once happened in Metroid. It has even happened in Zelda goddamit. That is my $2. Where is the idiot running to? Why to Nintendo Mania of course. Just follow him for the time of your life.

08-05-2004, 06:04 PM	#6
Link the Adept Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First off, when have you ever been able to control anyone but Link, except in SSB:M? Also, other ther than Bowser kidnapping Peach, the only time Mario games have had plot are the RPGs.Metroid is a game that focuses mainly on gameplay. It needs a basic plot, but it doesn't need a complicated and in-depth one. I would also like to have is be more 2.5d like in SSB. It should be side scrolling.

08-05-2004, 07:32 PM	#7
OcarinaMan Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ikana Castle Posts: 2,481 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	In Zelda: Makar, Medli, Kafei, and even a Zora, a Goron, and a Deku.

08-07-2004, 09:39 PM	#9
Mr.Hammermap Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: POUNDS OF BEER Posts: 479 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If Metroid Actually needed a huge plot, then we wouldn't have as much blasting the enemies, collecting parts, and fun. We'd have a better idea of whats going on, but those reasons I listed would stick out at you. As much as would Like Metroid to have a plot, It would make the game less full of new parts to use to kick the crap outta enemies!

08-08-2004, 10:14 AM	#10
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The idea is to explore for yourself. Metroid is already being dumbed down by Nintendo with **** like computers commanding you to go one way or another. I don't need Nintendo's standard cute new ideas in my favorite game series. You can gripe about Zebes being void of friendly life, but it's not supposed to have any. Part of the plot is that you are the single invader to an enemy-controlled planet. Everyone else died. And as far as the 'main villain' goes, that's just lame. There is never, in real life, just one person that you have to go after. There is never just one person running the show. They do NOT keep coming back to life, once you kill them. Ridley is bad enough. You know what I want to see come back? Samus's suit. The blue and yellow are lame looking together. Not to mention how lack-luster the design is.. One more game like that might be tolerable, but I'm not very forgiving when it comes to stuff like that. [ August 08, 2004, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: A.I. is nakeder than you ]

08-08-2004, 10:37 PM	#12
Sloth Master 2000 Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hell Posts: 96 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with AI.

08-14-2004, 05:11 PM	#13
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,142 Thanks: 121 Thanked 176 Times in 121 Posts	Metroid has been in a downfall ever since Yokoi was fired and killed. I think the only thing that could bring Metroid back to its former glory is his ressurection and rejoining of Nintendo. Of course, that ain't gonna happen. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

08-15-2004, 08:49 PM	#14
homer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Omicron Persei 8 Posts: 3,911 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[Dableetd] I'll repost later. [ August 15, 2004, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: ^Don't Get Mad, Get Stabby ]

10-29-2004, 04:23 PM	#17
Inferno Dragon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Planet Draco Gender: Posts: 6,038 Thanks: 67 Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts	honestly I love the new games just as much as the old ones (although 2 was kind of iffy for me) and I think the new changes are great, I especally liked the fusion suit's final form (all orange like her old one). but now that she's been fused with metroid DNA and the metroids are extinct the new "main" villan will have to be the parasitic shapeshifting X creatures if they ever make a Metroid 5. but as far as storyline and plot goes, I'd like to learn more about Samus' past in the next one that nintendo makes.