SPOILERS What would be a good story for a Metroid Fusion 2?

Dux is not you · 01-01-2005, 01:38 AM

You know, after the ending of Fusion, I was left wondering why there couldn't be any X somewhere else. In fact, I realized that you never made any contact with the federation ship. Is it possible that those ships could have gone directly to SR388 to snag some specimens. There's quite a possibility that the X threat will be reborn sometime soon.

Anyway, if there is going to be a MF2, I hope it's a third-person 3D game instead of a FPS.

SilverWind · 01-01-2005, 02:49 AM

Hm.. since the X are a natural species of SR388, I don't think they'd be found elsewhere (if they had actually wandered off of the planet, it's inferred that the universe would have been doomed).

You never meet the Federation Ship that comes to gather the X because Samus destroys the space station before they even get there. That was the reason for the urgency behind destroying the station and the planet.

I think the best thing that can be done with a sequel to Fusion-- or just a continuation further down the Metroid timeline-- is to show the consequences of Samus' (and Adam's) decisions. In the end of Fusion, Samus angrily notes that the Federation will hold tribunals about their misconduct. Also, the Federation was also revealed as being quite sneaky, covert, and possibly corrupt, as shown by the Secret Lab where the metroids were being grown (and the desire to control the X). A showdown of sorts between Samus and the corrupted parts of the Federation itself would be... so great. X_X

Codiekitty · 01-01-2005, 06:39 PM

I never exactly understood how nuking the planet was going to stop the X parasites. Samus' missiles went right through them. They were, like, indestructable unless eaten by a Metroid. What was destroying the planet going to do?

And how the HELL does a space station have the power to reduce an entire planet to space dust?

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

SilverWind · 01-01-2005, 07:41 PM

If the X could survive space, they would have made it off planet already. >_> So... we can assume that they can't. I always assumed the missiles went through because they're very gooey or small and loosely clumped together (virus sized, ne?).

And um... it can with calculations from a super-intelligent genius mind. XD ... *shrugs* I dunno.

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-02-2005, 06:28 AM

Metroid Fusion.. 2? Eh, the titles don't work that way. The 2D games have their own subtitles, and are numbered in a more linear manner. The Prime addition to the title is reserved for the 3D games. As for the whole Fusion suit thing, I hope they tie it up and loop it back around to a less fruity-looking Samus sometime soon. One without that hunchback thing they've been doing..

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

^^^That's no moon. It's a space station.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Codiekitty · 01-04-2005, 07:55 PM

...I didn't say anything about a moon...

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-05-2005, 10:27 AM

Star Wars quote, CK.

Kholdstare · 01-05-2005, 02:45 PM

Maybe the Space Pirates got ahold of the X. I mean, it's obvious they were on the station, perhaps an infected Pirate used an escape pod and will take the X to the current Pirate HQ.

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-05-2005, 11:42 PM

It's feasible.

Alucard · 01-17-2005, 10:51 AM

What would be interesting is when the Metroid contaiment area was jettisoned and destroyed, if the SA-X on it had survived somehow thanks to the suit and went off to another planet. That could be a good link to another Metroid game... and one question, if samus went to SR388 when hunting metroids in Metroid II, why didn't she encounter the X there and then?

**X-3** · 01-17-2005, 11:08 AM

^ Remember, Metroids ate the X parasites. When they were gone, the X parasites were pretty much free to go.

Alucard · 01-18-2005, 09:29 PM

But it was still odd that she never encountered them until after returning the SR388 severy cycles later...Wouldn't you think that she would encounter them as she was killing off the Metroids?

Codiekitty · 01-18-2005, 10:00 PM

Alucard, truth is, they didn't exist back then. Do you REALLY think Nintendo had planned "Well, there's these things on SR388 that you never see called X parasites. You never see them, but they're there. They'll be perfect for a future game!" while making Metroid II?

But ignoring common sense, yes, the Metroids ate them in such great quantities that they were vary scarce. Then when all the Metroids got wiped out, with nothing to keep them in check, they miltiplied and ran amok again.

It's like in that Star Trek episode with the Tribbles. At first there's only one, and a guy can fit in his trenchcoat. Next thing you know, the USS Enterprise is knee deep in them.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

Dai Grepher · 04-06-2005, 11:29 PM

I think that a good sequel would be the Federation hunting Samus, and Samus having to battle them.
Also, I think that a good twist would be that the X parasites from the SA-X infested the animals that were aboard Samus' ship. They just used the intelligence gathered by the SA-X to lie dormant until they are dropped of somewhere by Samus.
Also note that Zebes still exists, it's just that it has changed forms.

Inferno Dragon · 05-02-2005, 12:58 PM

^umm... Zebes was completely and utterly anniahlated at the end of Super Metroid. THE ENTIRE PLANET WENT BOOM!!!! and if by change form you mean it's only a pile of asteroids and space debret then yeah it changed forms.

Masamune · 05-02-2005, 05:29 PM

The spaceship that applied the cure to Samus to save her was on a different place than BioLogic Research Station. It's feasible and extremely likely that they have samples of the X Virus taken from Samus for study.

Dux is not you · 05-03-2005, 10:05 AM

I think I know a way for Samus to lose her powers (as she always does).

You know she gained her new abilities by absorbing X parasites, right? Maybe the metroid cells inside Samus' body would eat the X parasites, making Samus lose her abilities.

In fact, it occurs to me now that the metroid cells can mass-reproduce inside Samus' body, until they could re-form into full adult Metroids once again.

From that point, it could happen that the Metroids are "surgically removed" but they escape somehow.

Or perhaps they are ejected from Samus' body while in another planet.

So, to synthesize, several things could happen:

1) The pirates taking hold of the X
2) The Feds hunting Samus down
3) The Metroids reproducing inside Samus's body
4) And everything else I forgot

Also, I don't think Zebes changed form. It's as good as destroyed to me.

And to quote Adam, "I confirmed that [the Etecoons and Dachoras] were not X hosts and gave them a berth."

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-03-2005, 12:28 PM

^The entire reason she could absorb X-parasites was that the Metroid DNA ate them.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Dai Grepher · 05-03-2005, 08:24 PM

Zebes still exists and I have unarguable proof. Observe:

Here we see Samus' ship escaping, the newly reformed planet Zebes, and the tiny spec on the right is the alien animals' ship escaping.

01-01-2005, 01:38 AM	#1
Dux is not you Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Not Columbia Gender: Posts: 1,976 Thanks: 92 Thanked 113 Times in 74 Posts Blog Entries: 1	You know, after the ending of Fusion, I was left wondering why there couldn't be any X somewhere else. In fact, I realized that you never made any contact with the federation ship. Is it possible that those ships could have gone directly to SR388 to snag some specimens. There's quite a possibility that the X threat will be reborn sometime soon. Anyway, if there is going to be a MF2, I hope it's a third-person 3D game instead of a FPS.

01-01-2005, 02:49 AM	#2
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Gender: Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Hm.. since the X are a natural species of SR388, I don't think they'd be found elsewhere (if they had actually wandered off of the planet, it's inferred that the universe would have been doomed). You never meet the Federation Ship that comes to gather the X because Samus destroys the space station before they even get there. That was the reason for the urgency behind destroying the station and the planet. I think the best thing that can be done with a sequel to Fusion-- or just a continuation further down the Metroid timeline-- is to show the consequences of Samus' (and Adam's) decisions. In the end of Fusion, Samus angrily notes that the Federation will hold tribunals about their misconduct. Also, the Federation was also revealed as being quite sneaky, covert, and possibly corrupt, as shown by the Secret Lab where the metroids were being grown (and the desire to control the X). A showdown of sorts between Samus and the corrupted parts of the Federation itself would be... so great. X_X

01-01-2005, 06:39 PM	#3
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,142 Thanks: 121 Thanked 176 Times in 121 Posts	I never exactly understood how nuking the planet was going to stop the X parasites. Samus' missiles went right through them. They were, like, indestructable unless eaten by a Metroid. What was destroying the planet going to do? And how the HELL does a space station have the power to reduce an entire planet to space dust? Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

01-01-2005, 07:41 PM	#4
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Gender: Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	If the X could survive space, they would have made it off planet already. >_> So... we can assume that they can't. I always assumed the missiles went through because they're very gooey or small and loosely clumped together (virus sized, ne?). And um... it can with calculations from a super-intelligent genius mind. XD ... shrugs I dunno.

01-02-2005, 06:28 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Metroid Fusion.. 2? Eh, the titles don't work that way. The 2D games have their own subtitles, and are numbered in a more linear manner. The Prime addition to the title is reserved for the 3D games. As for the whole Fusion suit thing, I hope they tie it up and loop it back around to a less fruity-looking Samus sometime soon. One without that hunchback thing they've been doing..

01-02-2005, 01:23 PM	#6
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^^That's no moon. It's a space station. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

01-04-2005, 07:55 PM	#7
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,142 Thanks: 121 Thanked 176 Times in 121 Posts	...I didn't say anything about a moon... Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

01-05-2005, 10:27 AM	#8
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Star Wars quote, CK.

01-05-2005, 02:45 PM	#9
Kholdstare Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ice Palace Gender: Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maybe the Space Pirates got ahold of the X. I mean, it's obvious they were on the station, perhaps an infected Pirate used an escape pod and will take the X to the current Pirate HQ.

01-05-2005, 11:42 PM	#10
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	It's feasible.

01-17-2005, 10:51 AM	#11
Alucard Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hatsurah Gender: Posts: 4,653 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What would be interesting is when the Metroid contaiment area was jettisoned and destroyed, if the SA-X on it had survived somehow thanks to the suit and went off to another planet. That could be a good link to another Metroid game... and one question, if samus went to SR388 when hunting metroids in Metroid II, why didn't she encounter the X there and then?

01-17-2005, 11:08 AM	#12
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	^ Remember, Metroids ate the X parasites. When they were gone, the X parasites were pretty much free to go.

01-18-2005, 09:29 PM	#13
Alucard Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hatsurah Gender: Posts: 4,653 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	But it was still odd that she never encountered them until after returning the SR388 severy cycles later...Wouldn't you think that she would encounter them as she was killing off the Metroids?

01-18-2005, 10:00 PM	#14
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,142 Thanks: 121 Thanked 176 Times in 121 Posts	Alucard, truth is, they didn't exist back then. Do you REALLY think Nintendo had planned "Well, there's these things on SR388 that you never see called X parasites. You never see them, but they're there. They'll be perfect for a future game!" while making Metroid II? But ignoring common sense, yes, the Metroids ate them in such great quantities that they were vary scarce. Then when all the Metroids got wiped out, with nothing to keep them in check, they miltiplied and ran amok again. It's like in that Star Trek episode with the Tribbles. At first there's only one, and a guy can fit in his trenchcoat. Next thing you know, the USS Enterprise is knee deep in them. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

04-06-2005, 11:29 PM	#15
Dai Grepher TEH METRIOD GOOROO!!! !!!!111oneonecow ^OGMF! INCONSISTENT!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think that a good sequel would be the Federation hunting Samus, and Samus having to battle them. Also, I think that a good twist would be that the X parasites from the SA-X infested the animals that were aboard Samus' ship. They just used the intelligence gathered by the SA-X to lie dormant until they are dropped of somewhere by Samus. Also note that Zebes still exists, it's just that it has changed forms.

05-02-2005, 12:58 PM	#16
Inferno Dragon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Planet Draco Gender: Posts: 6,038 Thanks: 67 Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts	^umm... Zebes was completely and utterly anniahlated at the end of Super Metroid. THE ENTIRE PLANET WENT BOOM!!!! and if by change form you mean it's only a pile of asteroids and space debret then yeah it changed forms.

05-02-2005, 05:29 PM	#17
Masamune Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Indiana Gender: Posts: 4,937 Thanks: 14 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	The spaceship that applied the cure to Samus to save her was on a different place than BioLogic Research Station. It's feasible and extremely likely that they have samples of the X Virus taken from Samus for study.

05-03-2005, 10:05 AM	#18
Dux is not you Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Not Columbia Gender: Posts: 1,976 Thanks: 92 Thanked 113 Times in 74 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I think I know a way for Samus to lose her powers (as she always does). You know she gained her new abilities by absorbing X parasites, right? Maybe the metroid cells inside Samus' body would eat the X parasites, making Samus lose her abilities. In fact, it occurs to me now that the metroid cells can mass-reproduce inside Samus' body, until they could re-form into full adult Metroids once again. From that point, it could happen that the Metroids are "surgically removed" but they escape somehow. Or perhaps they are ejected from Samus' body while in another planet. So, to synthesize, several things could happen: 1) The pirates taking hold of the X 2) The Feds hunting Samus down 3) The Metroids reproducing inside Samus's body 4) And everything else I forgot Also, I don't think Zebes changed form. It's as good as destroyed to me. And to quote Adam, "I confirmed that [the Etecoons and Dachoras] were not X hosts and gave them a berth."

05-03-2005, 12:28 PM	#19
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^The entire reason she could absorb X-parasites was that the Metroid DNA ate them. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

05-03-2005, 08:24 PM	#20
Dai Grepher TEH METRIOD GOOROO!!! !!!!111oneonecow ^OGMF! INCONSISTENT!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Zebes still exists and I have unarguable proof. Observe: Here we see Samus' ship escaping, the newly reformed planet Zebes, and the tiny spec on the right is the alien animals' ship escaping.