Left 4 Dead

Speed · 12-05-2009, 05:29 AM

(Edit: I forgot the 2 at the end of the topic so...discuss the first one as well I guess <_< >_>)

I've yet to acquire the game myself but from what I've played it's a hell of a game.

So discuss and things....

Eric · 12-05-2009, 11:05 AM

I LOVE this game.

I haven't got Left 4 Dead 2 yet but the demo is awesome. It just feels like an interactive horror movie.

My favorite understatement is Valve makes good games.

VALVE FTW!

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 02:07 PM

Normally I don't get into horror games, but I actually enjoy this one. Was playing it last night with some friends; it's just a good contribution to the whole 'zombie genre' and it's executed really well.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 03:34 PM

Ah yes killing millions of zombies in an attempt to survive to the next day, and it's so much fun even when you fail.

One of the few reasons I would get a Xbox360.

Rainbow Dash · 12-05-2009, 04:10 PM

safasdsa why is this in the xbox forum

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 12-05-2009, 05:05 PM

WHAT YOU MEAN THE PS3 HAS LEFT 4 DEAD ON IT ALSO? AWESOME.

Kargath · 12-05-2009, 07:58 PM

Beware - the game gets really repetitive really quickly.

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 08:28 PM

^Disagree.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 08:31 PM

^that

Speed · 12-05-2009, 10:05 PM

Playing with 4 friends on Expert means it won't get repetitive.

...

It just means...you die...alot.

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 10:08 PM

Not to mention the AI gauges how you are faring and playing in the game, and changes the gameplay based on that.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 10:19 PM

Nothing is scarier than turning a corner to come face to face with a hoard.

Rainbow Dash · 12-05-2009, 10:29 PM

i guess i can take my (superior

) PC experiences to this thread

versus is a blast as long as you have teammates who are friends, and pubbies who don't ragequit

also charger is new best class

Kargath · 12-06-2009, 01:53 AM

Oh, just noticed this was referring to number II...
I haven't tried number II.

Number I was really repetitive. Your enemy that you fight 90% of the time only has one behaviour (run in a straight line towards you). You only have two gun types. (Yes, you get upgrades, but they're still a shotgun and an automatic. The hunting rifle doesn't count because it's not a gun, it's a deathtrap for the wielder.) Every so often, you get attacked by a special, which if you're playing properly you melee-bash to death immediately.
In Versus, the Infected have huge respawn timers and only one real action each (suicide attack). In addition to this, the nature of the campaigns mean that you can still have half an hour to play and have a team that mathematically cannot catch up with their score.
The 'AI Director' was a great marketing ploy, but it turned out to be little more than a random number generator that determined whether you got weapons on one table or on another table later on.

The main problem is that there is little variation in interaction. Since there's only two guns and one type of enemy that fills almost all playtime, there is a hard design cap to the amount of gameplay variety and fun you can have.

ZeldaGirl · 12-06-2009, 02:53 AM

I was talking about 1. And I still disagree with you.

Jace VK · 12-06-2009, 07:04 AM

Both games have unlimited replay value when playing with friends, anything can happen and it can be hilarious.

I think I like L4D2 better, but I do believe the first had more atmosphere and better level design.

Rainbow Dash · 12-06-2009, 01:23 PM

my 200 hours in the first game and already 50 hours in the second disagree with your repetitive statement

**Loot** · 12-06-2009, 08:22 PM

In other news, Kargath died within five minutes of a zombie invasion when he felt the zombie attacks were getting too repetitive and tried a different approach.

Stay tuned as we break Chunky's PC with a 360 to prove which is better.

Rainbow Dash · 12-06-2009, 10:54 PM

Sorry brah but does the 360 get constant bugfixes and free DLC?

Dr. Furball · 12-10-2009, 05:18 PM

I love L4D. It's the only game on 360 my brother has that I legitimately enjoy past the "I dislike this game less than than the rest of your collection, so I guess we can play it" level.
My favorite to play as is Louis. Dunno why, but I guess it's because of his optimistic personality and being the most normal of the group. I usually beat things down instead of shooting them since Louis' fists have unlimited ammo.
I was sold on L4D2 when I heard that a frying pan and electric guitar were weapons in it.

12-05-2009, 11:05 AM	#2
Eric Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Up your arse and around the corner. Gender: Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 236 Thanked 65 Times in 51 Posts	I LOVE this game. I haven't got Left 4 Dead 2 yet but the demo is awesome. It just feels like an interactive horror movie. My favorite understatement is Valve makes good games. VALVE FTW!

12-05-2009, 02:07 PM	#3
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	Normally I don't get into horror games, but I actually enjoy this one. Was playing it last night with some friends; it's just a good contribution to the whole 'zombie genre' and it's executed really well.

12-05-2009, 03:34 PM	#4
Redshirt Wiggidy Wack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A place with things Gender: Posts: 16,607 Thanks: 683 Thanked 998 Times in 690 Posts Blog Entries: 50	Ah yes killing millions of zombies in an attempt to survive to the next day, and it's so much fun even when you fail. One of the few reasons I would get a Xbox360.

12-05-2009, 04:10 PM	#5
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,745 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	safasdsa why is this in the xbox forum

12-05-2009, 05:05 PM	#6
LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT Videos Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 2,469 Thanked 746 Times in 413 Posts	WHAT YOU MEAN THE PS3 HAS LEFT 4 DEAD ON IT ALSO? AWESOME.

12-05-2009, 07:58 PM	#7
Kargath "Ask me questions. We have all the time in the world." (Polls Mod) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: kargath64.deviantart.com Gender: Posts: 8,057 Thanks: 1,186 Thanked 728 Times in 457 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Beware - the game gets really repetitive really quickly.

12-05-2009, 08:28 PM	#8
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	^Disagree.

12-05-2009, 08:31 PM	#9
Redshirt Wiggidy Wack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A place with things Gender: Posts: 16,607 Thanks: 683 Thanked 998 Times in 690 Posts Blog Entries: 50	^that

12-05-2009, 10:05 PM	#10
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,723 Thanks: 1,595 Thanked 319 Times in 223 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Playing with 4 friends on Expert means it won't get repetitive. ... It just means...you die...alot.

12-05-2009, 10:08 PM	#11
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	Not to mention the AI gauges how you are faring and playing in the game, and changes the gameplay based on that.

12-05-2009, 10:19 PM	#12
Redshirt Wiggidy Wack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A place with things Gender: Posts: 16,607 Thanks: 683 Thanked 998 Times in 690 Posts Blog Entries: 50	Nothing is scarier than turning a corner to come face to face with a hoard.

12-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#13
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,745 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	i guess i can take my (superior ) PC experiences to this thread versus is a blast as long as you have teammates who are friends, and pubbies who don't ragequit also charger is new best class

12-06-2009, 01:53 AM	#14
Kargath "Ask me questions. We have all the time in the world." (Polls Mod) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: kargath64.deviantart.com Gender: Posts: 8,057 Thanks: 1,186 Thanked 728 Times in 457 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Oh, just noticed this was referring to number II... I haven't tried number II. Number I was really repetitive. Your enemy that you fight 90% of the time only has one behaviour (run in a straight line towards you). You only have two gun types. (Yes, you get upgrades, but they're still a shotgun and an automatic. The hunting rifle doesn't count because it's not a gun, it's a deathtrap for the wielder.) Every so often, you get attacked by a special, which if you're playing properly you melee-bash to death immediately. In Versus, the Infected have huge respawn timers and only one real action each (suicide attack). In addition to this, the nature of the campaigns mean that you can still have half an hour to play and have a team that mathematically cannot catch up with their score. The 'AI Director' was a great marketing ploy, but it turned out to be little more than a random number generator that determined whether you got weapons on one table or on another table later on. The main problem is that there is little variation in interaction. Since there's only two guns and one type of enemy that fills almost all playtime, there is a hard design cap to the amount of gameplay variety and fun you can have.

12-06-2009, 02:53 AM	#15
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	I was talking about 1. And I still disagree with you.

12-06-2009, 07:04 AM	#16
Jace VK Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Gender: Posts: 1,613 Thanks: 91 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Both games have unlimited replay value when playing with friends, anything can happen and it can be hilarious. I think I like L4D2 better, but I do believe the first had more atmosphere and better level design.

12-06-2009, 01:23 PM	#17
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,745 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	my 200 hours in the first game and already 50 hours in the second disagree with your repetitive statement

12-06-2009, 08:22 PM	#18
Loot whelp I'm a bloody moron Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 12,471 Thanks: 226 Thanked 1,167 Times in 611 Posts	In other news, Kargath died within five minutes of a zombie invasion when he felt the zombie attacks were getting too repetitive and tried a different approach. Stay tuned as we break Chunky's PC with a 360 to prove which is better.

12-06-2009, 10:54 PM	#19
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Gender: Posts: 23,745 Thanks: 168 Thanked 1,120 Times in 677 Posts	Sorry brah but does the 360 get constant bugfixes and free DLC?

12-10-2009, 05:18 PM	#20
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	I love L4D. It's the only game on 360 my brother has that I legitimately enjoy past the "I dislike this game less than than the rest of your collection, so I guess we can play it" level. My favorite to play as is Louis. Dunno why, but I guess it's because of his optimistic personality and being the most normal of the group. I usually beat things down instead of shooting them since Louis' fists have unlimited ammo. I was sold on L4D2 when I heard that a frying pan and electric guitar were weapons in it.