4 Years, 12,000 Posts, 700 Given Thanks, and 500 Thanked Posts Later - Page 3 - VGF

***Heroine of the Dragon*** · 03-31-2008, 10:17 PM

I know... but you know what we said about that in the Mod forum, Andre. I heard all your counter-arguments. I know what it's like to lose threads that are sentimental... it is how it is.

You know that Wyborn has kindly volunteered to do his bit and deet all the locked threads based on mega-post counts... and CaptHayfever will be checking any other locked threads and will be doing his bit soon.

I am sorry it came to this, but without it, VGF will continue to experience more down-time and that will make none of us happy. We like accessing VGF ALL the time... right?

ADVENTURE BUS · 03-31-2008, 10:19 PM

I could sift through many threads in here and point out ones that could easily go.

Too many memories for a lot of VGFers are in those topics, they want to see them. What good is now if you don't know what's been?

***ZeldaGirl*** · 03-31-2008, 10:20 PM

Why can't we delete wvsw's topics? I mean, there are just as many as WoT, and it's less substantial.

ADVENTURE BUS · 03-31-2008, 10:23 PM

Wow, I mean, as sucky as his topics get...damn ZG.

SephirothKirby · 03-31-2008, 10:23 PM

^^ THAT

Metal Man · 03-31-2008, 10:26 PM

Wow, that shakes up the rankings quite a bit.

I was beginning to wonder how many ginormous topics VGF's servers could handle...

ADVENTURE BUS · 03-31-2008, 10:27 PM

Hell, delete the VGF Award topics.

Speaking of which, I should do one this summer.

Metal Man · 03-31-2008, 10:33 PM

I'm thinking the size of the topics matter. That would be why they're deleting WoTs specifically.

Otherwise, there's a number of dead topics in various forums which probably could be deleted without any controversy.

As they took as long as they did before deleting any one, I am pretty sure they tried everything else first.

I was noticing some severe VGF crashing going on; I would suspect attempting to index or move around old WoTs may have been the problem. For while the vast pile of ancient topics Shane migrated only created a little of it, all of VGF stopped responding some times, and that was just gnarly, as of recently that is.

ADVENTURE BUS · 03-31-2008, 10:37 PM

What would be the point? That's deleting the memorable topics.

Why not delete an assload of topics that hardly anyone cares about rather than delete what's really become a staple and newbie meeting ground?

Metal Man · 03-31-2008, 10:41 PM

You don't understand;

The incredibly large topics are incredibly hard for the server to process. The gigantic pile of small topics are easy to manage. Deleting the small ones, if I am correct, would change nothing as long as there's really big ones.

I assume they only did this after a large amount of attempts otherwise, as they seem to know the plight you speak of; after all, anything that dense has to have a lot of information in it, even if people try to make it spammy.

Think of it this way: Is it easier to move the barrel crammed to maximum capacity (WoTs) or the one with a little bit at the bottom (most topics)?

There is the remote chance this is April Fools, but server crashes don't sound like a Shane april fools to me.

ADVENTURE BUS · 03-31-2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Man

You don't understand;

The incredibly large topics are incredibly hard for the server to process. The gigantic pile of small topics are easy to manage. Deleting the small ones, if I am correct, would change nothing as long as there's really big ones.

I assume they only did this after a large amount of attempts otherwise, as they seem to know the plight you speak of; after all, anything that dense has to have a lot of information in it, even if people try to make it spammy.

Think of it this way: Is it easier to move the barrel crammed to maximum capacity (WoTs) or the one with a little bit at the bottom (most topics)?

There is the remote chance this is April Fools, but server crashes don't sound like a Shane april fools to me.

No, I understand your point, but I'm telling you, we can find more little topics that no one cares about (basically a majority of topics from oh, let's say 05 on) that would equal the amount of WoTs deleted.

May take more work, but I would have gladly helped.

Metal Man · 03-31-2008, 10:46 PM

That is where my experience thins--I have never had a site as large as VGF, so I don't know if it's overall size or the number of posts in one topic which effects it more.

As I don't know who is the SQL controller as of current at VGF, I couldn't quite guess who to ask--or if it is Shane, then he might not mention it outright because the explanation would probably be very technical.

Anyway. Hope what I've said explains it a little, though your point remains unanswered due to my inexperience.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 03-31-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:

I know... but you know what we said about that in the Mod forum, Andre. I heard all your counter-arguments. I know what it's like to lose threads that are sentimental... it is how it is.

You know that Wyborn has kindly volunteered to do his bit and deet all the locked threads based on mega-post counts... and CaptHayfever will be checking any other locked threads and will be doing his bit soon.

Fine, if you're going to indiscriminately delete threads based on number of posts and regardless of content, without even freaking reading them, you should delete Zelda Mafia first, regardless of how 'sentimental' it is, to you or anyone else. There are threads upwards of 1,000 posts, which is extremely stressful on the server.

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I am sorry it came to this, but without it, VGF will continue to experience more down-time and that will make none of us happy. We like accessing VGF ALL the time... right?

I'd rather have to experience short five-minute periods where I can't access the site than having every memorable thread I wanted to go back and read some time permanently deleted and never accessible again.

Also, the newbie forum is really glitchy as it gets older, I'm sure that must contribute some. There are threads where every post is multiplied by 8 for some reason, and older than that, starting at page 43, the threads have titles but no poster or message text. Those really should be deleted too.

SephirothKirby · 03-31-2008, 11:38 PM

^ He's right, I checked.

What the f***, how do you even find that stuff out?

Who just goes through the old threads in the Newbie forum?

Mikhail Gorbachev · 03-31-2008, 11:40 PM

Dunno, I remember finding it out like a year ago from someone else, don't remember who, so I just decided to check and find the exact cutoff.

***Heroine of the Dragon*** · 03-31-2008, 11:50 PM

Thanks, Mikhail. I have read the WoT threads many times. I even have posted in them on occasion. I am sorry this has affected you.

Misc was agreed in the Mod forum to be the first to be pruned due to the high number of locked threads... other forums will be looked at once we work out how this first prune has helped.

And thanks for the heads-up regarding the Newbie threads. I shall add them to the list we have!!

*gives Mikhail marshmallows*

That Guy · 04-01-2008, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

I'm getting rid of TPAM in a few hours. This is a lot of clicking.

NO

goddamnit

PZelda · 04-07-2008, 06:23 PM

You're not REALLY hardcore because you weren't at VGF in 1999 and 2000.

*cough* I just had my 8 YEAR anniversary here.

Tazy_10 · 04-07-2008, 06:30 PM

I AM OLDER THAN-

Wait, no I'm not.....

03-31-2008, 10:19 PM	#42
ADVENTURE BUS I'MA FIRIN MAH ADVENTURE BUS! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 13,119 Thanks: 937 Thanked 660 Times in 385 Posts Points: 48,704.47 Bank: 491,117.33 Total Points: 539,821.80 Donate	I could sift through many threads in here and point out ones that could easily go. Too many memories for a lot of VGFers are in those topics, they want to see them. What good is now if you don't know what's been? __________________ Season 1- Coming to a Youtube near you....whenever

03-31-2008, 10:23 PM	#44
ADVENTURE BUS I'MA FIRIN MAH ADVENTURE BUS! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 13,119 Thanks: 937 Thanked 660 Times in 385 Posts Points: 48,704.47 Bank: 491,117.33 Total Points: 539,821.80 Donate	Wow, I mean, as sucky as his topics get...damn ZG. __________________ Season 1- Coming to a Youtube near you....whenever

03-31-2008, 10:27 PM	#47
ADVENTURE BUS I'MA FIRIN MAH ADVENTURE BUS! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 13,119 Thanks: 937 Thanked 660 Times in 385 Posts Points: 48,704.47 Bank: 491,117.33 Total Points: 539,821.80 Donate	Hell, delete the VGF Award topics. Speaking of which, I should do one this summer. __________________ Season 1- Coming to a Youtube near you....whenever

03-31-2008, 10:37 PM	#49
ADVENTURE BUS I'MA FIRIN MAH ADVENTURE BUS! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 13,119 Thanks: 937 Thanked 660 Times in 385 Posts Points: 48,704.47 Bank: 491,117.33 Total Points: 539,821.80 Donate	What would be the point? That's deleting the memorable topics. Why not delete an assload of topics that hardly anyone cares about rather than delete what's really become a staple and newbie meeting ground? __________________ Season 1- Coming to a Youtube near you....whenever

03-31-2008, 10:17 PM	#41
*Heroine of the Dragon* The Grinnie Fool! ♥ VGFCodes Staff Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: In a pretty place surrounded by sparkly faerie dust!! Gender: Posts: 27,511 Thanks: 241 Thanked 254 Times in 188 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 15,674.78 Bank: 1,796,593.00 Total Points: 1,812,267.78 Donate	I know... but you know what we said about that in the Mod forum, Andre. I heard all your counter-arguments. I know what it's like to lose threads that are sentimental... it is how it is. You know that Wyborn has kindly volunteered to do his bit and deet all the locked threads based on mega-post counts... and CaptHayfever will be checking any other locked threads and will be doing his bit soon. I am sorry it came to this, but without it, VGF will continue to experience more down-time and that will make none of us happy. We like accessing VGF ALL the time... right?

03-31-2008, 10:20 PM	#43
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 11,640 Thanks: 490 Thanked 717 Times in 483 Posts Points: 21,574.62 Bank: 300,009.62 Total Points: 321,584.24 Donate	Why can't we delete wvsw's topics? I mean, there are just as many as WoT, and it's less substantial.

03-31-2008, 10:23 PM	#45
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03-31-2008, 10:26 PM	#46
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,679 Thanks: 74 Thanked 186 Times in 126 Posts Points: 6,767.15 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 6,767.15 Donate	Wow, that shakes up the rankings quite a bit. I was beginning to wonder how many ginormous topics VGF's servers could handle...

03-31-2008, 10:33 PM	#48
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,679 Thanks: 74 Thanked 186 Times in 126 Posts Points: 6,767.15 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 6,767.15 Donate	I'm thinking the size of the topics matter. That would be why they're deleting WoTs specifically. Otherwise, there's a number of dead topics in various forums which probably could be deleted without any controversy. As they took as long as they did before deleting any one, I am pretty sure they tried everything else first. I was noticing some severe VGF crashing going on; I would suspect attempting to index or move around old WoTs may have been the problem. For while the vast pile of ancient topics Shane migrated only created a little of it, all of VGF stopped responding some times, and that was just gnarly, as of recently that is.

03-31-2008, 10:41 PM	#50
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,679 Thanks: 74 Thanked 186 Times in 126 Posts Points: 6,767.15 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 6,767.15 Donate	You don't understand; The incredibly large topics are incredibly hard for the server to process. The gigantic pile of small topics are easy to manage. Deleting the small ones, if I am correct, would change nothing as long as there's really big ones. I assume they only did this after a large amount of attempts otherwise, as they seem to know the plight you speak of; after all, anything that dense has to have a lot of information in it, even if people try to make it spammy. Think of it this way: Is it easier to move the barrel crammed to maximum capacity (WoTs) or the one with a little bit at the bottom (most topics)? There is the remote chance this is April Fools, but server crashes don't sound like a Shane april fools to me.

03-31-2008, 10:46 PM	#52
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,679 Thanks: 74 Thanked 186 Times in 126 Posts Points: 6,767.15 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 6,767.15 Donate	That is where my experience thins--I have never had a site as large as VGF, so I don't know if it's overall size or the number of posts in one topic which effects it more. As I don't know who is the SQL controller as of current at VGF, I couldn't quite guess who to ask--or if it is Shane, then he might not mention it outright because the explanation would probably be very technical. Anyway. Hope what I've said explains it a little, though your point remains unanswered due to my inexperience.

03-31-2008, 11:38 PM	#54
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: **** YEAH SEAKING! Gender: Posts: 3,730 Thanks: 189 Thanked 236 Times in 146 Posts Points: 19.72 Bank: 88,549.91 Total Points: 88,569.63 Donate	^ He's right, I checked. What the f***, how do you even find that stuff out? Who just goes through the old threads in the Newbie forum?

03-31-2008, 11:40 PM	#55
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,468 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 44 Posts Points: 141.13 Bank: 22,571.07 Total Points: 22,712.20 Donate	Dunno, I remember finding it out like a year ago from someone else, don't remember who, so I just decided to check and find the exact cutoff.

03-31-2008, 11:50 PM	#56
*Heroine of the Dragon* The Grinnie Fool! ♥ VGFCodes Staff Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: In a pretty place surrounded by sparkly faerie dust!! Gender: Posts: 27,511 Thanks: 241 Thanked 254 Times in 188 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 15,674.78 Bank: 1,796,593.00 Total Points: 1,812,267.78 Donate	Thanks, Mikhail. I have read the WoT threads many times. I even have posted in them on occasion. I am sorry this has affected you. Misc was agreed in the Mod forum to be the first to be pruned due to the high number of locked threads... other forums will be looked at once we work out how this first prune has helped. And thanks for the heads-up regarding the Newbie threads. I shall add them to the list we have!! gives Mikhail marshmallows

04-07-2008, 06:23 PM	#58
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04-07-2008, 06:30 PM	#59
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