Your Best And Worst Villians?

Dizzy · 11-07-2011, 10:47 PM

I've found that my favorite villians are a mix between Laughably Evil and Dangerously Genre Savvy.

Villians I like:

The Joker (Batman)
Dr. Doofenshmirtz/Doof-2 (Phineas And Ferb)
Discord (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic)
Dr. Eggman (Sonic The Hedgehog)
Sheldon J. Plankton (Spongebob Squarepants)
Bowser (Super Mario)
Syndrome (The Incredibles)
Starscream (Transformers)
Dr. Wily (Mega Man)

I'm sure I'll think of more. Have at you.

Gabriel · 11-08-2011, 11:48 AM

MLP has a villain?

Panfan · 11-08-2011, 04:41 PM

HOW. THE HELL. CAN YOU. HATE. SCAR.

Dizzy · 11-08-2011, 04:49 PM

^^And a damn good one at that. Trekkies love him.

^I don't, really. The list was originally about something else, and I changed it at the last minute, and I left him in there inadvertently.

**Valigarmander** · 11-08-2011, 06:12 PM

I like character depth in villains. A villain who's motivated by something, even if it's just lust for power, is far more compelling than a villain who's just a dick for no reason at all. Though dicks can be redeemed if they're funny.

I'd have to think pretty hard about my favorite and least favorite villains, but for now at least, I have a tier list of Disney villains I made last year.

***Booyakasha*** · 11-09-2011, 06:52 AM

I really like the Kurgan from 'Highlander'. He's a card.

Thulsa Doom is pretty awesome, too.

**X-3** · 11-09-2011, 09:16 PM

Good Villains
Ganon (pig+colour blue+trident that is thrown around+fire bats+actually a werepig=so good)
Kotomine Kirei
Dormammu (mostly because of that voice and this)

Eh Villains
Dark *name*
Barbos from ToV (mostly because his character design is so evil-looking that it screams "I will not be the main villain of this story.

" Also LOOK OUT THAT FOUNTAIN BLASTIA-POWERED SWORD ALLOWS HIM TO FLY)
Main Villain of ToS (everything about this guy is funny seriously, though I'm probably just laughing at something that is actually kinda serious)

Absolute Best Villains
Marche
Dr. Light
Adam Malkovich

***Booyakasha*** · 01-03-2012, 12:22 PM

Ooh, best villain---Haggard from 'The Last Unicorn'. Good heavens, child.

**Loot** · 01-03-2012, 01:39 PM

I prefer villains who don't suddenly have this "OH BUT I HAVE A REASON FOR KILLING OFF HALF THE WORLD" bull**** in order to make it sound like they're just victims to previous affairs. A classic example of being evil because it's just fun is Iago. He's not jealous, just a little iffed that he didn't get promoted, so he decides to make Otello's life an absolute hell.

Dolores Umbridge is one of my absolute favorite villains, despite not actually being a villain per se. She gives all the reason to hate her, and it's done masterfully. You're not supposed to LIKE the villain. However you are free to enjoy in how deliciously evil their actions are.

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-05-2012, 05:09 AM

I dislike one-dimensional villains with little to no motivation or personification. They're pretty common, usually in "good vs evil" scenarios which typically make no sense whatsoever.

Dizzy · 01-05-2012, 05:33 AM

I do somewhat agree with Loot's statement: sometimes, being a deranged psychopath is all the backstory a villain needs.

A good villain to me needs to have some sort of entertaining quality beyond "holy crap, that dude's a jerk". A sense of humor is a great example of such a trait.

Now that this guy's got your attention, now he needs your respect. Harmless funny villains are fine and all, but competent funny villains are even better. It's always more fun when the hero has to earn their victory.

These are the two qualities that make up my opinion of a great villain. Adding "heinous jackass" to the mix is optional, but pleasing.

11-07-2011, 10:47 PM	#1
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Your Best And Worst Villians? I've found that my favorite villians are a mix between Laughably Evil and Dangerously Genre Savvy. Villians I like: The Joker (Batman) Dr. Doofenshmirtz/Doof-2 (Phineas And Ferb) Discord (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic) Dr. Eggman (Sonic The Hedgehog) Sheldon J. Plankton (Spongebob Squarepants) Bowser (Super Mario) Syndrome (The Incredibles) Starscream (Transformers) Dr. Wily (Mega Man) I'm sure I'll think of more. Have at you. Last edited by Dizzy; 01-05-2012 at 05:20 AM.

11-09-2011, 06:52 AM	#6
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	I really like the Kurgan from 'Highlander'. He's a card. Thulsa Doom is pretty awesome, too. Last edited by Booyakasha; 11-09-2011 at 07:39 PM.

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Gabriel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pesterchum~ Gender: Posts: 2,752 Thanks: 206 Thanked 139 Times in 115 Posts	MLP has a villain?

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Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,337 Posts Blog Entries: 15	HOW. THE HELL. CAN YOU. HATE. SCAR.

11-08-2011, 04:49 PM	#4
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	^^And a damn good one at that. Trekkies love him. ^I don't, really. The list was originally about something else, and I changed it at the last minute, and I left him in there inadvertently.

11-08-2011, 06:12 PM	#5
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I like character depth in villains. A villain who's motivated by something, even if it's just lust for power, is far more compelling than a villain who's just a dick for no reason at all. Though dicks can be redeemed if they're funny. I'd have to think pretty hard about my favorite and least favorite villains, but for now at least, I have a tier list of Disney villains I made last year.

11-09-2011, 09:16 PM	#7
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Good Villains Ganon (pig+colour blue+trident that is thrown around+fire bats+actually a werepig=so good) Kotomine Kirei Dormammu (mostly because of that voice and this) Eh Villains Dark name Barbos from ToV (mostly because his character design is so evil-looking that it screams "I will not be the main villain of this story. " Also LOOK OUT THAT FOUNTAIN BLASTIA-POWERED SWORD ALLOWS HIM TO FLY) Main Villain of ToS (everything about this guy is funny seriously, though I'm probably just laughing at something that is actually kinda serious) Absolute Best Villains Marche Dr. Light Adam Malkovich

01-03-2012, 12:22 PM	#8
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	Ooh, best villain---Haggard from 'The Last Unicorn'. Good heavens, child.

01-03-2012, 01:39 PM	#9
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	I prefer villains who don't suddenly have this "OH BUT I HAVE A REASON FOR KILLING OFF HALF THE WORLD" bull**** in order to make it sound like they're just victims to previous affairs. A classic example of being evil because it's just fun is Iago. He's not jealous, just a little iffed that he didn't get promoted, so he decides to make Otello's life an absolute hell. Dolores Umbridge is one of my absolute favorite villains, despite not actually being a villain per se. She gives all the reason to hate her, and it's done masterfully. You're not supposed to LIKE the villain. However you are free to enjoy in how deliciously evil their actions are.

01-05-2012, 05:09 AM	#10
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	I dislike one-dimensional villains with little to no motivation or personification. They're pretty common, usually in "good vs evil" scenarios which typically make no sense whatsoever.

01-05-2012, 05:33 AM	#11
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	I do somewhat agree with Loot's statement: sometimes, being a deranged psychopath is all the backstory a villain needs. A good villain to me needs to have some sort of entertaining quality beyond "holy crap, that dude's a jerk". A sense of humor is a great example of such a trait. Now that this guy's got your attention, now he needs your respect. Harmless funny villains are fine and all, but competent funny villains are even better. It's always more fun when the hero has to earn their victory. These are the two qualities that make up my opinion of a great villain. Adding "heinous jackass" to the mix is optional, but pleasing.