Halo Movie

Valentine · 10-05-2005, 06:33 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4311756.stm

Jury's still out on this for me, guess we'll just have to sit back and see what happens.

**Wyborn** · 10-05-2005, 07:04 AM

Jackson will be acting as executive producer. They don't have a director yet.

Erdawn Il Deus · 10-05-2005, 12:34 PM

Bah =P

**Wyborn** · 10-05-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Cobalt Blues:
Bah =P

You're just jealous they didn't get him for God of War. Which they should. WETA + God of War = yes.

Erdawn Il Deus · 10-05-2005, 05:20 PM

I'd much rather see a Turok movie.

**Sean P Kelly** · 10-06-2005, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by Wyborn:
Jackson will be acting as executive producer. They don't have a director yet.

I read on AICN that he is the main producer (and if you know anything about filmmaking you know that the producer is the TRUE head of a movie)

Koga · 10-07-2005, 06:46 AM

That's really not true. A producer is usually not the one is resonsible for the creative aspect of a film, which is the most important aspect, in my opinion.

Why do you think movies always start with a 'insert director name' film? I'd say even a screenwriter has more influence of the creative quality of a film than a producer. For example, Eternal Sunshine can be seen as a Michel Gondry or a Charlie Kaufman film. I don't even know the names of the producers.

WolfosSmak · 10-09-2005, 05:42 PM

Peter Jackson as EP is good, just please God don't let him direct it.

I'm not saying Peter Jackson is a bad director, but he's no cinematic messiah as some of the most devout LotR fanatics would assert. He has his flaws. In that trilogy an overdependence on slow motion can be easily seen, particularly in the final movie. He also tends to rely on his soundtrack to carry the emotion in a scene a bit too much. This latter could particularly be a bad thing, as Halo has a fairly strong score and it would be an easy fault to fall into. But I don't have much concern that he'll be directing, they would have just said it if it were so. He'll do admirably as a producer, likely this means we'll see a good portion of the movie filmed in New Zealand, which is as good a location to simulate the geography of a Halo as any. (That is assuming, of course, that we'll see a Halo in the movie.) WETA is also nothing but good news, I won't doubt them until I'm given reason to.

None of this of course clears up the big question of who will be directing it. That's what'll make or break the film.

Peter Jackson as Executive Producer also opens up another very interesting possibility. The following is a quote from Lucasfilm producer Rick McCallum, discussing the forthcoming remakes of the Star Wars movies utilizing a brand new 3D technology. (source: ComingSoon.net)

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Q: Can you talk about bringing the Star Wars saga into 3-D?

McCallum: It's a two part problem right now. One, there's only about a 100 or maybe 350 to 400 screens worldwide with digital screens. But I'm really exciting that finally after all this bulls**t that we've been waiting for and listening to about the industry trying to get its stuff together, it looks like the first real deployment of digital cinema is going to take place at the beginning of the year. And that's being done by a couple of companies. I am praying that they won't lose focus, that the industry will finally come together for the first time and really start to respect their audiences for the first time. Theater owners really understand that 3-D is the catalyst to make them understand we really need to do something about our falling audiences. And I don't think that's just an issue about the quality of films. I think because of DVD, because of the access to large-screen TV sets—there is this sociological change taking place in the world in which young kids starting to see their movies. But nevertheless, I am very excited that, once we get to the point of about 2 and a half, 3,000 screens, then we will start the process of working with some of the companies that are out there. One of those companies who's doing a post-production process which takes a 2-D movie like all six or ours and creates a 3-D image which creates no eye-strain. You can sit there for two hours and just ….the most fantastic glasses…. anywhere in the theater. We've done not only major tests for it, we've done sections of Episode IV that area really startling. Because in the process, you can literally pick out every visual effect and change the perspective of it as you deal with each element. And often in our pictures we have 20 or 30 different elements. So even though the film wasn't planned around the idea that 3-D would become available, we can actually take advantage of it. So I think it's going to be a major form of entertainment soon. Peter Jackson is going to have a King Kong version at the end of his theatrical run, Jim Cameron's next picture is going to be shot in 3-D, Robert Rodriguez is continuing and so is [Robert] Zemeckis. So I think finally, these big guys are gonna really dictate to the studios that 3-D is something very exciting for them. It's not for everything, obviously, and it's not for every film, but for certain live action huge movies it presents a really extraordinary opportunity to differentiate between the DVD market and the theatrical market.

So we know Peter Jackson, who is executive producing Halo, is jumping on the bandwagon of this new technology starting with his latest movie, King Kong. As McCallum says, it's not for every film, but can you imagine a movie more suited to the treatment than Halo?

I think this movie could very well be the X-Men (Yes, that is what started the trend for comic movies, Spider-Man was 1000 times better, but they never would have made that if they hadn't realized the profit potential of quality comic-based movies with X-Men) of video game movies. In that case...there are a lot of video game movie licenses just sort of sitting around right now. I believe John Woo has the rights to Metroid, and Jerry Bruckheimer to the Prince of Persia series, among others. Those might be reexamined in a more serious light in a post-Halo film market, and I imagine if the movie is successful we'll see a lot of other video game licenses snatched up real quick.

Erdawn Il Deus · 10-09-2005, 07:42 PM

Uh, not to poke at Jackson, or anything else in this discussion, and not even to be pessimistic about the Halo movie (TUROOOK), but here's something for you.

3-D sucks.

Terribly.

In every way.

And that's a fact.

Dusty · 10-09-2005, 07:49 PM

Bring me some Goddamn Dinosaur Hunter.

WolfosSmak · 10-09-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cobalt Blues:
Uh, not to poke at Jackson, or anything else in this discussion, and not even to be pessimistic about the Halo movie (TUROOOK), but here's something for you.

3-D sucks.

Terribly.

In every way.

And that's a fact.

This is brand new digital technology, not your same old 3D.

Erdawn Il Deus · 10-09-2005, 10:14 PM

The usage of 3-D in movies will suck no matter what.

Koga · 10-10-2005, 08:19 AM

Yet another remake of the Star Wars trilogy?

**Wyborn** · 10-10-2005, 12:29 PM

In fairness, Smak, the music usually carried the scene in Halo 2, also. And the original. The game wasn't exactly high drama.

**Sean P Kelly** · 10-10-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Koga:
That's really not true. A producer is usually not the one is resonsible for the creative aspect of a film, which is the most important aspect, in my opinion.

Why do you think movies always start with a 'insert director name' film? I'd say even a screenwriter has more influence of the creative quality of a film than a producer. For example, Eternal Sunshine can be seen as a Michel Gondry or a Charlie Kaufman film. I don't even know the names of the producers.

I don't pretend to be an all-out expert on film-making, but here is what I understand:
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The screenwriter writes a movie</font>
The screenwriter then sells the movie to a PRODUCER</font>
The producer then hires the crew (this includes the director) and overlooks the entire making of the film</font>

So, even though a movie is more known for the director's style, the producer is still the one calling all the shots and they're the ones who take the statue when a film wins Best Picture.

Also, it's funny how you mention the "a 'insert director name' film" line. This is GREATLY frowned upon in the filmmaking world. The WGA does not like it's use because they feel it discredits the writer, and there are even some directors (like Kevin Smith) who don't use the line.

Now, back on topic.

WolfosSmak · 10-10-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Wyborn:
In fairness, Smak, the music usually carried the scene in Halo 2, also. And the original. The game wasn't exactly high drama.

Precisely. And that stuff won't fly in a feature film.

Also, picking the director usually comes down to finding a big name or a decent talent that likes the script and wants to shoot it, and can be afforded on the budget. That still doesn't give the average Hollywood producer any substantial creative input on the movie as a whole. They merely pay the bills and make sure everyone's working.
Excellent show to watch for insight into the movie business- Sunday Morning Shootout on AMC.

[ October 10, 2005, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: Smakian ]

Erdawn Il Deus · 10-14-2005, 09:02 AM

If you mean that movies where music caries the film don't work, then you can kiss my ass. Conan the Barbarian is a notable exception of this working - the music practically never stops.

WolfosSmak · 10-15-2005, 09:38 PM

I'm not saying they don't work, but that they work for the wrong reasons. The movie should carry the movie. I can appreciate good music and the contribution it makes to a film, but I'm not there to listen to a song.

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It is like getting a ordering a pizza and getting a free walrus. Even if the walrus were excellent, I mean truly exemplary, I'm really not in the market for it and it's not why I ordered the pizza.

[ October 15, 2005, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: Smakian ]

Bomby · 11-14-2005, 06:18 PM

As if the game itself wasn't boring enough.

**Dr. Horrible** · 10-20-2006, 02:56 PM

Universal Pictures and 20th Century Fox have backed out of co-financing the big screen adaptation of Microsoft's Halo, reports Variety.

The trade says that while rumors had the studios concerned over a budget that was rising above the original projected $135 million budget, the filmmakers said the double defection came after Universal and Fox played hardball and unsuccessfully tried to get the filmmakers and Microsoft to reduce their profit participation.

Halo Movie Loses Both Its Studios - ComingSoon.net

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10-07-2005, 06:46 AM	#7
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10-09-2005, 07:42 PM	#9
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10-10-2005, 12:29 PM	#14
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10-14-2005, 09:02 AM	#17
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11-14-2005, 06:18 PM	#19
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