Superman Returns - VGF

**Sean P Kelly** · 06-19-2006, 09:42 PM

It's still a little early for this topic, but I thought I would start things off with this little behind the scenes video that was posted at AICN.

Basically, it how they took stock footage of Marlon Brando from the original Superman film and create a computer model of Brando for use in the new flick.

It's quite neat.

The Joker · 06-23-2006, 03:05 PM

Superman was my favorite hero growing up and I absolutely loved and lived by the first two superman movies. Although the subsequent films deteriorated in both quality and overall plot, I was always the first person in my family to watch the Superman movies. He was the first character to introduce me to the world of fantasy and also opened up the comic book world to me. For these reasons plus many more I am going June 28th to Universal IMAX Theater and seeing this one in all its glory.

I was both happy and relieved when I heard that Bryan Singer would be directing the movies, as I was pleased with the adaptations of the first two x-men flicks which could have been a whole lot worse. Also I was happy with his decision to use an unknown actor to play Superman and Kevin spacey to play Lex Luthor.

This is the movie I have been waiting for since I was 5 yeras old and this will be the first Superhero movie that my son will accompany me on seeing as he was too young of a baby to go with his mother and I to any of the other more recent super hero flicks.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-23-2006, 05:11 PM

^What's this? A parent who intentionally didn't bring a tiny baby into a theater? HALLELUJAH!!!!

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

The Joker · 06-23-2006, 05:55 PM

I swore to myself a long time ago that I would not be one of those parents !!

**Sean P Kelly** · 06-25-2006, 05:13 PM

I have yet to see an entire Superman film (I think the most I've ever saw was the first half hour of Superman II in a hotel room before going to sleep)

Koga · 06-25-2006, 05:22 PM

So do I. He's never really interested me, and I really doubt I will see this one in the cinema.

The Joker · 06-26-2006, 04:12 PM

^ & ^ Both suck

Koga · 06-26-2006, 04:16 PM

The Joker · 06-30-2006, 02:44 PM

I saw the movie and loved it, so did my son

**Sean P Kelly** · 06-30-2006, 04:46 PM

I plan on seeing the movie Sunday.....in IMAX 3D

The Joker · 06-30-2006, 04:55 PM

Yeah I took my son to go see it at the Universal Theaters IMAX and it was well worth the drive and money

**Sean P Kelly** · 06-30-2006, 08:58 PM

FYI, did you know that IMAX is Canadian. The original IMAX theatre, The Ontario Place Cinesphere, is right here in Toronto.

When I was young, only 40-minute documentaries were shown in the format and at the Cinesphere they were usually shown as an 80-minute double feature.

It was only within the last 5 years or so that feature-length films started being released in the format (though before that, it was common practice to show a 35MM film -- IMAX is 70MM -- on the IMAX screen, which results in a short of "letterboxed" IMAX - i.e. the picture only covers the centre of the screen).

EDIT: I just took a look at the Cinesphere website, and the 40-minute documentaries that were playing when I was a kid are STILL playing.

**Sean P Kelly** · 07-02-2006, 06:53 PM

OK, saw it today.

I'm a little tired to go into details, so I'll just say that I liked it, but in terms of DC revival movies, I liked Batman Begins better.

EDIT: I would like to make a little comment about the IMAX 3D. 4 scenes are in 3D, which makes up 20 minutes of screentime. Because the length of the film in 254 minutes, only 12% of the film is in 3D. I read a few days ago the Bryan Singer said, as an afterthought, that he wanted to make more of the movie 3D. That is too bad, because for most of the film, the 3D glasses were sitting on my lap.

BTW, the 4 scenes are:
Spoiler Below

A scene on the Kent farm, which includes a flashback to Supe as a child.
The first major action scene involving Superman preventing a plane crash
A scene where a large kryptonite-laced crystal continent rises from the ocean, which also involves Superman saving Lois Lane from a sinking boat.
The final scene of the movie, which just involves Superman flying away.

Koga · 07-03-2006, 03:24 AM

254 minutes? I hope that's a typo.

**Sean P Kelly** · 07-03-2006, 08:12 AM

Koga · 07-03-2006, 08:54 AM

The movie is over 4 hours long? I find that a little hard to believe, especially because the IMDb lists it as 154 minutes.

**Sean P Kelly** · 07-03-2006, 09:36 AM

Lurch1982 · 07-16-2006, 04:41 PM

Saw this in an Imax. Good 3d effects, though it would have ruled if the entire movie were like that.

I'm not a Superman fan by nature. Too perfect, only one good villain, and the only way you can even have him start to lose as fight is if you find some mineral from an asteroid.

That said, I enjoyed Superman Returns.

Sure, I really enjoyed it because it said Superman III and IV never happened (both of which were unbearable), but Singer shows why he's good at doing any sort of Superhero movie and why Brett Ratshiit ruined Xmen 3.

Singer made the relationship between Lois Lane and Superman the focal point of the movie, and made you actually care. Spacey as Lex Luthor was excellent and put Gene Hackman to shame. The problem people will have is "TEHER SI NOT TEH ACHUN!1" in the movie. Really though, I didn't mind because Superman is just boring. Unless you have a kryptonite weapon, laser, or monster, Superman just owns everything. This actually made you forget about how lame he is and concentrated on building up a story that actually grabs you.

Spoiler Below

I really liked how it handled the world moving on with Superman leaving for 5 years. Didn't understand why nobody seemed to link Clark Kent's reappearance coinciding with Superman's though (same with disappearance). Regardless, the stress and tension caused by the sudden disappearance and reappearance was perfectly shown on screen between superman and lois, and really made the movie IMO.

Ike · 07-16-2006, 05:01 PM

I saw the movie the other day. I thought it was really good. The only problems I had with it was Spoiler Below

everybody's inability to draw the connection between Superman and Kent Clark, and the scenes that I thought were pointless that just increased my time spent in the theater (EX. the hospital scenes, some of the rescue scenes, etc.)

**Sean P Kelly** · 07-17-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch1982

Saw this in an Imax. Good 3d effects, though it would have ruled if the entire movie were like that.

2 1/2 hours of polorized 3D will probably give you such a headache

06-19-2006, 09:42 PM	#1
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	Superman Returns It's still a little early for this topic, but I thought I would start things off with this little behind the scenes video that was posted at AICN. Basically, it how they took stock footage of Marlon Brando from the original Superman film and create a computer model of Brando for use in the new flick. It's quite neat.

06-23-2006, 03:05 PM	#2
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06-23-2006, 05:55 PM	#4
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06-26-2006, 04:12 PM	#7
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06-30-2006, 02:44 PM	#9
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06-23-2006, 05:11 PM	#3
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06-25-2006, 05:13 PM	#5
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	I have yet to see an entire Superman film (I think the most I've ever saw was the first half hour of Superman II in a hotel room before going to sleep)

06-25-2006, 05:22 PM	#6
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	So do I. He's never really interested me, and I really doubt I will see this one in the cinema.

06-26-2006, 04:16 PM	#8
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06-30-2006, 04:46 PM	#10
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	I plan on seeing the movie Sunday.....in IMAX 3D

06-30-2006, 04:55 PM	#11
The Joker So a gun walks into a bar.... Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Planet of Eternal Darkness Gender: Posts: 9,951 Thanks: 1,096 Thanked 252 Times in 184 Posts Points: 285.87 Bank: 9,491.65 Total Points: 9,777.52 Donate	Yeah I took my son to go see it at the Universal Theaters IMAX and it was well worth the drive and money __________________ Now every post can have headbangy goodness

06-30-2006, 08:58 PM	#12
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	FYI, did you know that IMAX is Canadian. The original IMAX theatre, The Ontario Place Cinesphere, is right here in Toronto. When I was young, only 40-minute documentaries were shown in the format and at the Cinesphere they were usually shown as an 80-minute double feature. It was only within the last 5 years or so that feature-length films started being released in the format (though before that, it was common practice to show a 35MM film -- IMAX is 70MM -- on the IMAX screen, which results in a short of "letterboxed" IMAX - i.e. the picture only covers the centre of the screen). EDIT: I just took a look at the Cinesphere website, and the 40-minute documentaries that were playing when I was a kid are STILL playing. Last edited by Sean P Kelly; 06-30-2006 at 09:07 PM.

07-02-2006, 06:53 PM	#13
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	OK, saw it today. I'm a little tired to go into details, so I'll just say that I liked it, but in terms of DC revival movies, I liked Batman Begins better. EDIT: I would like to make a little comment about the IMAX 3D. 4 scenes are in 3D, which makes up 20 minutes of screentime. Because the length of the film in 254 minutes, only 12% of the film is in 3D. I read a few days ago the Bryan Singer said, as an afterthought, that he wanted to make more of the movie 3D. That is too bad, because for most of the film, the 3D glasses were sitting on my lap. BTW, the 4 scenes are: Spoiler Below A scene on the Kent farm, which includes a flashback to Supe as a child. The first major action scene involving Superman preventing a plane crash A scene where a large kryptonite-laced crystal continent rises from the ocean, which also involves Superman saving Lois Lane from a sinking boat. The final scene of the movie, which just involves Superman flying away. Last edited by Sean P Kelly; 07-02-2006 at 07:30 PM.

07-03-2006, 03:24 AM	#14
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	254 minutes? I hope that's a typo.

07-03-2006, 08:12 AM	#15
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,232 Thanks: 9 Thanked 41 Times in 32 Posts Points: 175,577.91 Bank: 61,283.41 Total Points: 236,861.32 Donate	Nope

07-03-2006, 08:54 AM	#16
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	The movie is over 4 hours long? I find that a little hard to believe, especially because the IMDb lists it as 154 minutes.

07-03-2006, 09:36 AM	#17
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07-16-2006, 04:41 PM	#18
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,103 Thanks: 119 Thanked 179 Times in 118 Posts Points: 24,526.27 Bank: 128,362.74 Total Points: 152,889.01 Donate	Saw this in an Imax. Good 3d effects, though it would have ruled if the entire movie were like that. I'm not a Superman fan by nature. Too perfect, only one good villain, and the only way you can even have him start to lose as fight is if you find some mineral from an asteroid. That said, I enjoyed Superman Returns. Sure, I really enjoyed it because it said Superman III and IV never happened (both of which were unbearable), but Singer shows why he's good at doing any sort of Superhero movie and why Brett Ratshiit ruined Xmen 3. Singer made the relationship between Lois Lane and Superman the focal point of the movie, and made you actually care. Spacey as Lex Luthor was excellent and put Gene Hackman to shame. The problem people will have is "TEHER SI NOT TEH ACHUN!1" in the movie. Really though, I didn't mind because Superman is just boring. Unless you have a kryptonite weapon, laser, or monster, Superman just owns everything. This actually made you forget about how lame he is and concentrated on building up a story that actually grabs you. Spoiler Below I really liked how it handled the world moving on with Superman leaving for 5 years. Didn't understand why nobody seemed to link Clark Kent's reappearance coinciding with Superman's though (same with disappearance). Regardless, the stress and tension caused by the sudden disappearance and reappearance was perfectly shown on screen between superman and lois, and really made the movie IMO.

07-16-2006, 05:01 PM	#19
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,628 Thanks: 40 Thanked 153 Times in 109 Posts Points: 5,788.97 Bank: 174,638.17 Total Points: 180,427.14 Donate	I saw the movie the other day. I thought it was really good. The only problems I had with it was Spoiler Below everybody's inability to draw the connection between Superman and Kent Clark, and the scenes that I thought were pointless that just increased my time spent in the theater (EX. the hospital scenes, some of the rescue scenes, etc.)