Rant about modern zombie movies - VGF

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 12:23 AM

I love zombie movies. Night of the Living Dead was a classic. Dawn of the Dead was excellent. Day of the Dead was perfection. There are probably tons of other non-Romero zombie flicks out there that are plenty good. But recently, zombie movies have kind of gone downhill. The good zombie flick to bad zombie flick ratio is changing for the worse. I think the only really good recent zombie movie is Shaun of the Dead. Now, let's talk about a few recent movies I've seen.

Land of the Dead. I really expected better from Romero, but he did exactly what Lucas did with Star Wars. Instead of sticking to the basic things that made the original movies so great, instead he went all the way with cheap-looking CGI. The blood doesn't look like blood, it looks like tiny red snakes. And that scene with the near-headless zombie is soooooooooo faaaaaaaaaaake... One thing I hated about Land of the Dead is that it wasn't really a zombie movie, it was more of a movie that had zombies. Land of the Dead,

Resident Evil. Aside from being absolutely nothing like the game, I found Resident Evil to be somewhat enjoyable. The characters were bland, however, and they didn't go all the way on the gore factor in my opinion. Haven't seen Apocalypse, and don't plan on seeing the upcoming threequel. Resident Evil, video games?

Resident Evil, movies?

House of the Dead. Based off the popular arcade games (or so I presume), these movies are apparently Sci-Fi channel original movies. House of the Dead, Route 666, any other cheesy Sci-Fi zombie movies, are absolute crap. (Actually, I found Route 666 to be somewhat enjoyable.) Sci-Fi channel,

Well, that's my opinion. Zombie movies seem to be getting crappier, but hey, so do all films. Every now and then we can expect a diamond in the rocks, like Shaun of the Dead. Well, tell me your thoughts.

I'm looking forward to Diary of the Dead, assuming Romero doesn't overdo it with the CGI again...

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 01:04 AM

You might try the Dawn of the Dead remake, good stuff.

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 01:22 AM

I've been looking to get those remakes, Night, Dawn... Day's coming out this year. Remakes usually suck, but hey, if Wyborn likes it, then why not.

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 01:41 AM

Well, whether you like it or not will largely depend on if you like violence. Do you like violence? Do you really?

And would zombies running like Olympic sprinters ruin it for you?

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 01:45 AM

I like violence. But violence alone does not make a good movie. Think, the original Dawn of the Dead had shoddy makeup and blood that looked like melted crayon. Yet, it was still great. I don't care if the remake has all the gore in the world, and while that may be a plus, it might not be enough to make it a good movie.

Zombies... running? That's ****ing with the Sacred Zombie Rules.

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 01:58 AM

Well, Romero's rule was that dead people couldn't move like us because they had rigor mortis. This guy's rule is that dead people can move like we can't because they don't worry about tearing themselves to pieces.

**Sean P Kelly** · 03-10-2007, 12:13 PM

I think the first instance of "fast" zombies was in 28 Days Later.

But, that could be explained by the fact that they're infected with a rage virus instead of being undead

Irby · 03-10-2007, 12:15 PM

Im looking forward to bathroom of the dead.

MC Luigi · 03-10-2007, 02:22 PM

^......................what?
I never liked horror, scary or zombie movies. But Dead Silence, well, that's just awesome.

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 05:23 PM

Horror movies are the best. They're made to scare the crap out of you, and if they actually do that, then you know you're watching a good movie.

Demonicus Prime · 03-10-2007, 05:45 PM

All of this proves one thing.

>Modern zombie films.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 03-10-2007, 05:50 PM

I remember Resident Evil 2 (Movie) had zombies coming out of their graves. First thing; All bodies sent to mourges have their tendons cut when they drain the blood, as the limbs would stiffen up. (Making them look like they come back to life when they sit up)
Second; The T-virus only revives the recently dead, given they still have a head/brain. They're all heavily decomposed in the graves and given they have almost no blood left in them.
Third; They're six feet under dirt AND in a wooden casket. How the hell could they bust through the casket and dig through the dirt?

Maybe if this were Return of the Living Dead, I'd understand, seeing as it was one huge joke anyways.

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 06:00 PM

Really, the inconsistencies with the logistics of zombies in Resident Evil Apocalypse wasn't nearly as bad as the fact that a woman kung fu fought Nemesis and won.

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 06:18 PM

Now I don't even want to see the movie unless it's to see how bad it is.

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 07:02 PM

It is one hundred percent a movie you watch for the camp factor. I may see the third one in theaters for that very reason.

So Jill Valentine's going to be in the next movie. Part of her backstory involves the death of Leon Kennedy.

Yes, they killed off Leon, RE's resident BAMF, for the sake of the backstory of a character they're going to bastardize and push into the background in favor of Alice anyway.

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 07:15 PM

I can't think of one good movie based off of a video game.

**Wyborn** · 03-10-2007, 07:20 PM

....Silent Hill was decent.

And the zombies were freaky.

And the first Mortal Kombat was awesome. Also if you count Scorpion as a zombie it may have been the best zombie movie ever.

Valigarmander ASS · 03-10-2007, 07:22 PM

Haven't seen either of those movies.

**Sean P Kelly** · 03-11-2007, 01:02 AM

First MK was good, second one tried to stuff as many characters as they could fit

ShyGuy727 · 03-11-2007, 02:38 AM

I've actually been wanting to watch a good zombie movie lately (thanks Zombie Mod), I've never really see one. I found all of the Night of Living Dead (I think it was that one) on YouTube on one clip, but I didn't have the time to really watch more than the first 15 minutes.

03-10-2007, 12:23 AM	#1
Valigarmander ASS RADDA RADDA RADDA! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Radda, radda. Gender: Posts: 12,471 Thanks: 698 Thanked 1,081 Times in 575 Posts Points: 173.83 Bank: 121,886.39 Total Points: 122,060.22 Donate	Rant about modern zombie movies I love zombie movies. Night of the Living Dead was a classic. Dawn of the Dead was excellent. Day of the Dead was perfection. There are probably tons of other non-Romero zombie flicks out there that are plenty good. But recently, zombie movies have kind of gone downhill. The good zombie flick to bad zombie flick ratio is changing for the worse. I think the only really good recent zombie movie is Shaun of the Dead. Now, let's talk about a few recent movies I've seen. Land of the Dead. I really expected better from Romero, but he did exactly what Lucas did with Star Wars. Instead of sticking to the basic things that made the original movies so great, instead he went all the way with cheap-looking CGI. The blood doesn't look like blood, it looks like tiny red snakes. And that scene with the near-headless zombie is soooooooooo faaaaaaaaaaake... One thing I hated about Land of the Dead is that it wasn't really a zombie movie, it was more of a movie that had zombies. Land of the Dead, Resident Evil. Aside from being absolutely nothing like the game, I found Resident Evil to be somewhat enjoyable. The characters were bland, however, and they didn't go all the way on the gore factor in my opinion. Haven't seen Apocalypse, and don't plan on seeing the upcoming threequel. Resident Evil, video games? Resident Evil, movies? House of the Dead. Based off the popular arcade games (or so I presume), these movies are apparently Sci-Fi channel original movies. House of the Dead, Route 666, any other cheesy Sci-Fi zombie movies, are absolute crap. (Actually, I found Route 666 to be somewhat enjoyable.) Sci-Fi channel, Well, that's my opinion. Zombie movies seem to be getting crappier, but hey, so do all films. Every now and then we can expect a diamond in the rocks, like Shaun of the Dead. Well, tell me your thoughts. I'm looking forward to Diary of the Dead, assuming Romero doesn't overdo it with the CGI again...

03-10-2007, 01:04 AM	#2
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	You might try the Dawn of the Dead remake, good stuff.

03-10-2007, 01:22 AM	#3
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03-10-2007, 01:41 AM	#4
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	Well, whether you like it or not will largely depend on if you like violence. Do you like violence? Do you really? And would zombies running like Olympic sprinters ruin it for you?

03-10-2007, 01:45 AM	#5
Valigarmander ASS RADDA RADDA RADDA! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Radda, radda. Gender: Posts: 12,471 Thanks: 698 Thanked 1,081 Times in 575 Posts Points: 173.83 Bank: 121,886.39 Total Points: 122,060.22 Donate	I like violence. But violence alone does not make a good movie. Think, the original Dawn of the Dead had shoddy makeup and blood that looked like melted crayon. Yet, it was still great. I don't care if the remake has all the gore in the world, and while that may be a plus, it might not be enough to make it a good movie. Zombies... running? That's ****ing with the Sacred Zombie Rules.

03-10-2007, 01:58 AM	#6
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	Well, Romero's rule was that dead people couldn't move like us because they had rigor mortis. This guy's rule is that dead people can move like we can't because they don't worry about tearing themselves to pieces.

03-10-2007, 12:13 PM	#7
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,218 Thanks: 9 Thanked 40 Times in 31 Posts Points: 172,666.99 Bank: 55,506.27 Total Points: 228,173.26 Donate	I think the first instance of "fast" zombies was in 28 Days Later. But, that could be explained by the fact that they're infected with a rage virus instead of being undead

03-10-2007, 12:15 PM	#8
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MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,026 Thanks: 41 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Points: 8,338.60 Bank: 22,265.90 Total Points: 30,604.50 Donate	^......................what? I never liked horror, scary or zombie movies. But Dead Silence, well, that's just awesome.

03-10-2007, 05:23 PM	#10
Valigarmander ASS RADDA RADDA RADDA! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Radda, radda. Gender: Posts: 12,471 Thanks: 698 Thanked 1,081 Times in 575 Posts Points: 173.83 Bank: 121,886.39 Total Points: 122,060.22 Donate	Horror movies are the best. They're made to scare the crap out of you, and if they actually do that, then you know you're watching a good movie.

03-10-2007, 05:45 PM	#11
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03-10-2007, 05:50 PM	#12
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03-10-2007, 06:00 PM	#13
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	Really, the inconsistencies with the logistics of zombies in Resident Evil Apocalypse wasn't nearly as bad as the fact that a woman kung fu fought Nemesis and won.

03-10-2007, 06:18 PM	#14
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03-10-2007, 07:02 PM	#15
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	It is one hundred percent a movie you watch for the camp factor. I may see the third one in theaters for that very reason. So Jill Valentine's going to be in the next movie. Part of her backstory involves the death of Leon Kennedy. Yes, they killed off Leon, RE's resident BAMF, for the sake of the backstory of a character they're going to bastardize and push into the background in favor of Alice anyway.

03-10-2007, 07:15 PM	#16
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03-10-2007, 07:20 PM	#17
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,698.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 81,094.68 Donate	....Silent Hill was decent. And the zombies were freaky. And the first Mortal Kombat was awesome. Also if you count Scorpion as a zombie it may have been the best zombie movie ever.

03-10-2007, 07:22 PM	#18
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03-11-2007, 01:02 AM	#19
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03-11-2007, 02:38 AM	#20
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,015 Thanks: 35 Thanked 55 Times in 40 Posts Points: 25,455.98 Bank: 9,720.69 Total Points: 35,176.67 Donate	I've actually been wanting to watch a good zombie movie lately (thanks Zombie Mod), I've never really see one. I found all of the Night of Living Dead (I think it was that one) on YouTube on one clip, but I didn't have the time to really watch more than the first 15 minutes.