Matrix Revolutions - Page 3

11-07-2003, 06:10 PM

Smith is my hero.
-T2K

11-07-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Green Yoshi:
This trilogy is one of the most overrated ever. THere is absolutely no way it could rival Star Wars. All Hail George Lucas!

Someone who agrees! My school is almost completley "Matrix this" and "Matrix That". I'm not saying that the Matrix is a bad movie (Just the 2nd one), but I'm not gonna see Revolutions because i've gotten too many trick-or-treaters as Agents and Neo. (9/10 of them I got this year were Matrix stuff. Before that, everyone was dressing up as Obi-Wan and Anikan. My neighbourhood is full of fanboys.)

imported_Parrakarry · 11-07-2003, 08:27 PM

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You must be kidding.

Kind of... but then again, if it makes enough revenue I can totally, totally see them making another one. Maybe a "prequel" of some sorts.

[ November 07, 2003, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Parrakarry ]

11-07-2003, 08:36 PM

Just saw it. It was great.

There was only one real way to end it and they chose it, whats wrong with that?

Agent Smith is officially the coolest villian ever.

'Im not so bad, once you get to know me.'

11-08-2003, 01:38 AM

^
The scene between him and the Oracle, pure gold.

11-08-2003, 01:44 AM

I don't care about Star Wars.

11-08-2003, 01:58 AM

Jay Leno on Matrix Revolutions, something like:

"The latest installment of the Matrix came out this week. I saw it. I'm not going to give away the story because I couldn't FIGURE OUT THE STORY!"

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

11-08-2003, 03:13 AM

The matrix is a philosophical and symbolic trilogy. To understand it requires you to THINK! This is why most people say things like "Reloaded sucked" and stuff like that. I did not think it sucked. It's purpose was to bridge the story, as all middle films in a trilogy usually do. And as for that "father of the matrix" or architect scene in Reloaded, most people just let it go right over their head. Either they were blown away by the crazy vocabularily used, or forget to think. Or perhaps they didn't care and just see the Matrix for it's action scenes. Then I could see why these people wouldn't like it. I like thought-provoking movies like this which cause you to think and develop theories and come up with many questions. And understanding everything takes a certain amount of wit.

In my humble opinion, I thought revolutions kicked major ass! I just got back from seeing it! And I'm going to see it again in a few weeks, IMAX style...

imported_AJ Middleton · 11-08-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by MagnuM - Komrade In Koopa:
The matrix is a philosophical and symbolic trilogy. To understand it requires you to THINK! This is why most people say things like "Reloaded sucked" and stuff like that. I did not think it sucked. It's purpose was to bridge the story, as all middle films in a trilogy usually do. And as for that "father of the matrix" or architect scene in Reloaded, most people just let it go right over their head. Either they were blown away by the crazy vocabularily used, or forget to think. Or perhaps they didn't care and just see the Matrix for it's action scenes. Then I could see why these people wouldn't like it. I like thought-provoking movies like this which cause you to think and develop theories and come up with many questions. And understanding everything takes a certain amount of wit.

EXACTLY. Today's society is too obsessed with explosions and profanity. Look! The Matrix requires some thought! Imagine that! Most of the people who hate Reloaded are the ones who just don't want to think in what seems like an action movie. Same goes for Revolutions. Like some actor on the Reloaded bonus DVD says, The Matrix can be seen on 1000 levels. Some people will get 1, others 789, and some all 1000.

The Architect scene in Reloaded is funny because he 1)talks really fast and uses big words for no reason, which throws tons of people off, and 2)as revealed in Revolutions, it's all a bunch of crap. Haha.

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He saw it with his "oracle powers." He was trying to understand the vision so he would know what to do to end it all.

D'OH! That's why she's in the mud after he is destroyed! He's using her original code for most of that scene! Thanks for clearing that up!

My main complain about Revolutions was that the Merovingian and Persephone were basically useless. After reading tons of theories, I thought they would be such major characters. Oh well...

[ November 08, 2003, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: BoltDragoon ]

imported_Parrakarry · 11-08-2003, 12:01 PM

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Revolutions quite a bit... but only after stopping to think about what had happened.

imported_AJ Middleton · 11-08-2003, 12:14 PM

Not everything is able to be taken in instantly.

11-08-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Packywhirl:
I don't care about Star Wars.

same here, this is the most overrated series IMO.

11-08-2003, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagnuM - Komrade In Koopa:
The matrix is a philosophical and symbolic trilogy. To understand it requires you to THINK! This is why most people say things like "Reloaded sucked" and stuff like that. I did not think it sucked. It's purpose was to bridge the story, as all middle films in a trilogy usually do. And as for that "father of the matrix" or architect scene in Reloaded, most people just let it go right over their head. Either they were blown away by the crazy vocabularily used, or forget to think. Or perhaps they didn't care and just see the Matrix for it's action scenes. Then I could see why these people wouldn't like it. I like thought-provoking movies like this which cause you to think and develop theories and come up with many questions. And understanding everything takes a certain amount of wit.

I love to think. Reloaded was just cliched intelligent sounding garbage that tried to be philosophic but failed. The action bored me to tears, too. 10 minute fight scenes are not fun. it's like live action Dragonball Z.

If you want to see a thought provoking movie, see K-PAX or Pay it Forward or something. (EDIT: I just realized that both of those films star Kevin Spacey. What a world!)

[ November 08, 2003, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: The Great Carterman ]

11-08-2003, 02:12 PM

....WHAT THE?!?!

I AGREE WITH BOLT!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

11-08-2003, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Grenriader79 is sorry:
this was probly the best AND the worst movie ever.

Best cause it was cool
and worst cause the animation sucked.

I thought the animation was done rather well.

~marioreak~

11-08-2003, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by The Great Carterman:
If you want to see a thought provoking movie, see K-PAX or Pay it Forward or something. (EDIT: I just realized that both of those films star Kevin Spacey. What a world!)

I agree.

~mariofreak~

Dee Emm · 11-08-2003, 08:03 PM

For those complaining about the end?

I'd like to see you come up with a better ending without making it look like a sequel's coming.

They might make another Matrix series, they might not. If they do, it won't be anytime soon.

In an interview with Keanu Reeves, he says "Matrix Revolutions is the end of my character's story", so there may or may not be a sequel.

I personally liked the second movie the best. The third was a good movie, but not as good as I'd hoped.

Lurch1982 · 11-08-2003, 10:54 PM

*spoilers, but you shouldn't be reading this thread if you don't want them*

My biggest complaint is that they tried to wrap up the entire series in a very short span of time. Think about it. They go from the Matrix, which is an excellent beginning movie, then they jump into Reloaded, which is a pretty good middle movie, but revolutions just really felt like that the storylines in it should have been split into different movies. Personally, I would have done this as a series of movies (like 5 or 6) and handle different aspects of the overall story. Jumping from Neo vs Smith and the siege of Zion in the last two movies just really threw off the entire plot for me. They really could have fleshed out more of the characters if they had even one more movie. I mean, most of the Zion characters were fairly one dimensional, Niobe barely had any sort of depth to her, wiping out the entire fleet in the second movie WITHOUT SHOWING IT was stupid because it doesn't really show anything about Bane, the Marovingian needed waaay more screentime, the ending needed at to wrap up a little better, and it needed a little more than the Oracle and Architect talking. The little girl could have been made an important character, Seraph was way too cool to not do anything with, they should have brought back some of the Marovingian's thugs (like those twins, they ruled), should have spent more time in the Matrix, and should have really had something between the original and reloaded to show a passage of time and stuff.

Then you get into Trinity and Neo's deaths. Trinity needed to go, as did Neo. Sorry, but Trinity's death was far too cheap. Come on, she doesn't die in the first two movies (but comes close several times) and then dies in a ****ty real-world accident? That's almost as lame, but not quite as lame, as the entire original crew of the Nebuchadnezzar dying from getting unplugged. Neo's death and reasons needed to be explained far more clearly. I understood it, but I know that far too many don't. The entire relationship between smith and neo needed to be clarified. They never really got into Smith's powers, never really addressed his character, and never really explained how it was resolved.

The Nebuchadnezzar also didn't have a full crew, and the ships could have been different classes (gunship or something).

You're fooling yourself if you think they're gonna let the Matrix license and story just sit there. They already have a MMORPG in the works (estimated release next year), and I'm willing to bet they start doing more things like the Animatrix. I'd like to see more movies, perhaps following a different crew before Neo or something.

11-08-2003, 11:10 PM

I think I need to see the AniMatrix.

11-08-2003, 11:56 PM

Death is death is death in the real world. @_@() As lame as it is to get killed by bullets or spikes or etc, I mean, IT HAPPENS. It'd be silly if they fell 300 feet up high and somehow managed to get away with a scratch "in the real world" no matter how strong they are in the Matrix. @.@

11-07-2003, 06:10 PM	#41
Tonberry2k Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Smith is my hero. -T2K

11-07-2003, 08:36 PM	#44
Stuaval Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Just saw it. It was great. There was only one real way to end it and they chose it, whats wrong with that? Agent Smith is officially the coolest villian ever. 'Im not so bad, once you get to know me.'

11-08-2003, 01:38 AM	#45
Daos300 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^ The scene between him and the Oracle, pure gold.

11-08-2003, 01:44 AM	#46
I HATE POKEMON! Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I don't care about Star Wars.

11-08-2003, 01:58 AM	#47
CodieKitty Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Jay Leno on Matrix Revolutions, something like: "The latest installment of the Matrix came out this week. I saw it. I'm not going to give away the story because I couldn't FIGURE OUT THE STORY!" Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

11-08-2003, 03:13 AM	#48
Magnum Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	The matrix is a philosophical and symbolic trilogy. To understand it requires you to THINK! This is why most people say things like "Reloaded sucked" and stuff like that. I did not think it sucked. It's purpose was to bridge the story, as all middle films in a trilogy usually do. And as for that "father of the matrix" or architect scene in Reloaded, most people just let it go right over their head. Either they were blown away by the crazy vocabularily used, or forget to think. Or perhaps they didn't care and just see the Matrix for it's action scenes. Then I could see why these people wouldn't like it. I like thought-provoking movies like this which cause you to think and develop theories and come up with many questions. And understanding everything takes a certain amount of wit. In my humble opinion, I thought revolutions kicked major ass! I just got back from seeing it! And I'm going to see it again in a few weeks, IMAX style...

11-08-2003, 12:01 PM	#50
imported_Parrakarry 1337 H4xx0rzerz Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Mars. I own it. Period. Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,265.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,265.50 Donate	Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Revolutions quite a bit... but only after stopping to think about what had happened.

11-08-2003, 12:14 PM	#51
imported_AJ Middleton Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 336.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 336.00 Donate	Not everything is able to be taken in instantly.

11-08-2003, 02:12 PM	#54
PenguinMan26 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	....WHAT THE?!?! I AGREE WITH BOLT!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

11-08-2003, 08:03 PM	#57
Dee Emm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hsawaknow Posts: 5,679 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 483.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 483.00 Donate	For those complaining about the end? I'd like to see you come up with a better ending without making it look like a sequel's coming. They might make another Matrix series, they might not. If they do, it won't be anytime soon. In an interview with Keanu Reeves, he says "Matrix Revolutions is the end of my character's story", so there may or may not be a sequel. I personally liked the second movie the best. The third was a good movie, but not as good as I'd hoped.

11-08-2003, 10:54 PM	#58
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,149 Thanks: 119 Thanked 202 Times in 125 Posts Points: 27,362.21 Bank: 166,050.89 Total Points: 193,413.10 Donate	spoilers, but you shouldn't be reading this thread if you don't want them My biggest complaint is that they tried to wrap up the entire series in a very short span of time. Think about it. They go from the Matrix, which is an excellent beginning movie, then they jump into Reloaded, which is a pretty good middle movie, but revolutions just really felt like that the storylines in it should have been split into different movies. Personally, I would have done this as a series of movies (like 5 or 6) and handle different aspects of the overall story. Jumping from Neo vs Smith and the siege of Zion in the last two movies just really threw off the entire plot for me. They really could have fleshed out more of the characters if they had even one more movie. I mean, most of the Zion characters were fairly one dimensional, Niobe barely had any sort of depth to her, wiping out the entire fleet in the second movie WITHOUT SHOWING IT was stupid because it doesn't really show anything about Bane, the Marovingian needed waaay more screentime, the ending needed at to wrap up a little better, and it needed a little more than the Oracle and Architect talking. The little girl could have been made an important character, Seraph was way too cool to not do anything with, they should have brought back some of the Marovingian's thugs (like those twins, they ruled), should have spent more time in the Matrix, and should have really had something between the original and reloaded to show a passage of time and stuff. Then you get into Trinity and Neo's deaths. Trinity needed to go, as did Neo. Sorry, but Trinity's death was far too cheap. Come on, she doesn't die in the first two movies (but comes close several times) and then dies in a ****ty real-world accident? That's almost as lame, but not quite as lame, as the entire original crew of the Nebuchadnezzar dying from getting unplugged. Neo's death and reasons needed to be explained far more clearly. I understood it, but I know that far too many don't. The entire relationship between smith and neo needed to be clarified. They never really got into Smith's powers, never really addressed his character, and never really explained how it was resolved. The Nebuchadnezzar also didn't have a full crew, and the ships could have been different classes (gunship or something). You're fooling yourself if you think they're gonna let the Matrix license and story just sit there. They already have a MMORPG in the works (estimated release next year), and I'm willing to bet they start doing more things like the Animatrix. I'd like to see more movies, perhaps following a different crew before Neo or something.

11-08-2003, 11:10 PM	#59
homer Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I think I need to see the AniMatrix.

11-08-2003, 11:56 PM	#60
SilverWind Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Death is death is death in the real world. @_@() As lame as it is to get killed by bullets or spikes or etc, I mean, IT HAPPENS. It'd be silly if they fell 300 feet up high and somehow managed to get away with a scratch "in the real world" no matter how strong they are in the Matrix. @.@