Iron Man - VGF

War Machine · 05-02-2008, 09:41 PM

Was a really awesome movie. Great special effects, great humor, great story. Probably one of my favorite comic book movies I've seen in a while.

I don't know, maybe it was the scene after the credits that did it. I'm not going to spoil anything, but stay until the credits are over. It's worth it.

***Wyborn*** · 05-02-2008, 09:46 PM

Two thumbs up. Best Marvel movie so far.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 05-02-2008, 10:05 PM

I can't wait to see it.

Ike · 05-02-2008, 10:30 PM

^^That's actually saying a lot with the Spiderman and X-men movies. Now I have to see this one.

War Machine · 05-02-2008, 10:46 PM

So far, with Marvel movies I've seen, it's been...

Iron Man > Spider-Man 2 > X-Men > X2 > Spider-Man >>>>> X-Men: Last Stand > Spider-Man 3 > Rise of the Silver Surfer >>>>>> Daredevil > Fantastic 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ghost Rider

Dr. Furball · 05-03-2008, 12:02 AM

It is my life's mission to see every movie based on a Marvel Comic. So, broken leg or not, I'm seeing this movie.

**Booyakasha** · 05-03-2008, 12:17 AM

It was really good.

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Incidentally, does anyone know why the hell Nick Fury is black now? I ask because I respect the source material, and Fury was white for forty-plus years' worth of comics. Like, he was white as recently as 'Punisher MAX--Mother Russia', a series that came out in 2005 or so. And now, as seen in 'Iron Man', the Ultimate Avengers cartoon movies, and 'Marvel Ultimate Alliance', he's turned black. Does anyone know what the deal is there?

***Wyborn*** · 05-03-2008, 12:19 AM

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In the Ultimate Universe he was redesigned as a black man - Marvel actually asked Samuel Jackson if they could use his likeness.

Since the movies tend to mix elements of the original and Ultimate continuities, that's pretty much the whole story. Jackson is playing a character whose redesign is based on himself.

**Booyakasha** · 05-03-2008, 12:31 AM

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That's really, really, really lame.

***Wyborn*** · 05-03-2008, 12:42 AM

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Hey I didn't do it.

Besides! You know what this means, right? An Avengers movie! And who's in the Avengers? Captain ****ing America, that's who! And Thor!

And who's their first enemy in every continuity? THE HULK!

This has the potential to be most radical.

**Booyakasha** · 05-03-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyborn

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You know what this means, right? An Avengers movie! And who's in the Avengers? Captain ****ing America, that's who! And Thor!

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I'm hoping Captain America stays dead for a while yet. And I'd rather see a movie about the actual mythological figure Thor, instead of the Marvel superhero. Call me old-fashioned, but I think the 'Thor versus Incredible Hulk' fight would pale into insignificance next to the 'Thor versus Midgard Serpent' battle. That fight would rock. Correction--it would RAGNA-ROCK. (Yeah, I went there. Look on my puns, ye mighty, and despair.)

Metal Man · 05-03-2008, 01:51 AM

I should really see it, after suffering through Ghost Rider and because Iron Man and Metal Man aren't too far off.

To add to the metallic content of this post I shall now listen to Iron Man by Black Sabbath. \m/

***Wyborn*** · 05-03-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Booyakasha

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I'm hoping Captain America stays dead for a while yet. And I'd rather see a movie about the actual mythological figure Thor, instead of the Marvel superhero. Call me old-fashioned, but I think the 'Thor versus Incredible Hulk' fight would pale into insignificance next to the 'Thor versus Midgard Serpent' battle. That fight would rock. Correction--it would RAGNA-ROCK. (Yeah, I went there. Look on my puns, ye mighty, and despair.)

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Weird as it may sound, Captain America has been Marvel's best book for the past five years or so. He'd be hard to pull off on the silver screen but I'd like to see them try.

One of the themes of the Marvel movies is that characters are re-imagined in order to fit in somewhere between the original and Ultimate continuities, and then made into something that would actually be a decent movie. Ultimate Thor is already more like the mythological one - I imagine we'd definitely be seeing some fur-wearing, head-smashing stuff in the Thor movie (which I think has been confirmed).

**Booyakasha** · 05-03-2008, 09:53 AM

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Yeah, I know about the Thor movie. I've heard they've got Kevin McKidd signed for the lead. Odd choice. Still, I suppose he's got the chops to pull off ridiculously violent drama (he starred in 'Rome', for Cliff's sake).

I'd argue the point of Captain America being Marvel's best book of the past five years (that clearly being 'Punisher MAX') but that's a matter of personal opinion.

Incidentally, I really hate the Avengers, for pretty much the same reason I hate the Justice League--namely, the team is comprised of two or three good characters surrounded by a dozen or so total suckasses who pretty much exist solely as cannon fodder. "Oh, no! I thought my supervillain plot was in trouble back when it was merely Iron Man and Thor trying to kill me, but now Hawkeye is after me, too! Horror of horrors! He might shoot me with that stupid glue arrow! Etc"

***Wyborn*** · 05-03-2008, 12:04 PM

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Hey now. Hey. Hey. Everyone knows the Wasp sucks, but if you've read the Ultimates (pick it up - even if you don't like the idea of a black Nick Fury, it's a good introduction to the Ultimate universe) you know they've turned Hawkeye into Bulls-eye on steroids.

It's not a matter of everybody fighting the same supervillain - that's ridonculous. Nowadays they will actually go "Gee, dudes, it looks like Ultron here may be a wee bit dangerous for our good friends Captain America and Wasp to try to fight! Let's leave this to THOR, god of thunder and shatterer of worlds!" They actually put members of the teams up against threats that coincide with how capable of dealing with that threat they are - that's why threats in "The Ultimates" are so multi-faceted, like invading armies that need to be hit on multiple front, with the really powerful members actually fighting head-on, serving as a distraction while the likes of Cap go around and kick the asses of whatever asses need kicking behind the scenes.

...Actually, have you read "The Ultimates"? You can pick up the first two volumes, which are a great read, in trade paperback for fairly cheap. I highly recommend it, it's easily the best thing to come out of that continuity.

**Sean P Kelly** · 05-03-2008, 11:20 PM

I'll add to the spoiler text discussion.
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A Captain America movie is currently in the works (IMDb says 2009, but you never know).

The Hulk movie will feature the second "push" toward an eventual Avengers film (someone cameos).

BTW, according to Wikipedia, semi-confirmed heroes for this Avengers film would be Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor. One problem with having many Marvel heroes in one film is that different studios have film rights to different characters (i.e. Kingpin can never be a villain in a Spider-Man film). However, now Marvel has their own studios and they have the film rights to the above characters, so that makes an Avengers movie possible.

Finally, why complain about a black Nick Fury when Kingpin was already redone as a black man (and probably the best thing about the Daredevil film).

Anyhoo, I'll just link to my actual thoughts on the film.

**Booyakasha** · 05-04-2008, 06:22 PM

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I might look into Ultimates some time. Right now I'm getting into Batman trades, and I prophesy that will keep me busy for a while.

And, while on the one hand it seems like a good idea to match up your heroes against threats they're capable of dealing with, in the end all that's doing is making losers like Quicksilver feel good about themselves. Kind of patronising.

***Wyborn*** · 05-05-2008, 02:07 PM

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Quicksilver is an unmitigated bad-ass and he scares the **** out of me in Ultimates vol. 2.

Kae · 05-05-2008, 08:29 PM

I concur on the agreed-upon ass-kickage of this movie.

[You have cured me of my laziness trying to read this conversation... kthnx]

Dr. Furball · 05-06-2008, 11:50 PM

It was awesome. I really liked Stan Lee's obligatory cameo.
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I liked the foreshadowing of War Machine when Rhodes considered donning the Mark II suit. I wasn't too thrilled with the public reveal at the end. Iron Man's public identity may have worked out well in the comics when it happened in 2001(?), but I was kinda looking forward to seeing how the bodyguard thing would work out in this day and age.

But that's a small nitpick. It was still awesome.

05-02-2008, 09:41 PM	#1
War Machine urmom Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: La Grange Gender: Posts: 9,272 Thanks: 375 Thanked 677 Times in 489 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 142.00 Bank: 8,983.60 Total Points: 9,125.60 Donate	Iron Man Was a really awesome movie. Great special effects, great humor, great story. Probably one of my favorite comic book movies I've seen in a while. I don't know, maybe it was the scene after the credits that did it. I'm not going to spoil anything, but stay until the credits are over. It's worth it. __________________

05-02-2008, 09:46 PM	#2
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05-03-2008, 12:17 AM	#7
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,630 Thanks: 67 Thanked 291 Times in 193 Posts Points: 15,473.31 Bank: 6,714.67 Total Points: 22,187.98 Donate	It was really good. Spoiler Below Incidentally, does anyone know why the hell Nick Fury is black now? I ask because I respect the source material, and Fury was white for forty-plus years' worth of comics. Like, he was white as recently as 'Punisher MAX--Mother Russia', a series that came out in 2005 or so. And now, as seen in 'Iron Man', the Ultimate Avengers cartoon movies, and 'Marvel Ultimate Alliance', he's turned black. Does anyone know what the deal is there? __________________ The nations of Hyrule are on the march to glory once again. Across the land, brave souls steel themselves for battle. Do you dare join them? Hyrulian War II

05-03-2008, 12:19 AM	#8
*Wyborn* SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,290 Thanks: 85 Thanked 430 Times in 264 Posts Points: 8,228.00 Bank: 58,672.39 Total Points: 66,900.39 Donate	Spoiler Below In the Ultimate Universe he was redesigned as a black man - Marvel actually asked Samuel Jackson if they could use his likeness. Since the movies tend to mix elements of the original and Ultimate continuities, that's pretty much the whole story. Jackson is playing a character whose redesign is based on himself. __________________ Help me out with the best fanfiction ever, Ganondorf Beats Up EVERYONE! You decide who gets beaten! For the battle-minded and mathematically inclined, there's the Hyrulian War, a revived time-honored tradition!

05-02-2008, 10:05 PM	#3
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 10,794 Thanks: 458 Thanked 621 Times in 425 Posts Points: 904.78 Bank: 163,249.56 Total Points: 164,154.34 Donate	I can't wait to see it.

05-02-2008, 10:30 PM	#4
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,566 Thanks: 40 Thanked 151 Times in 107 Posts Points: 239.81 Bank: 100,166.71 Total Points: 100,406.52 Donate	^^That's actually saying a lot with the Spiderman and X-men movies. Now I have to see this one.

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Dr. Furball Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 352 Thanks: 14 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts Points: 93.39 Bank: 1,520.20 Total Points: 1,613.59 Donate	It is my life's mission to see every movie based on a Marvel Comic. So, broken leg or not, I'm seeing this movie.

05-03-2008, 12:31 AM	#9
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,630 Thanks: 67 Thanked 291 Times in 193 Posts Points: 15,473.31 Bank: 6,714.67 Total Points: 22,187.98 Donate	Spoiler Below That's really, really, really lame. __________________ The nations of Hyrule are on the march to glory once again. Across the land, brave souls steel themselves for battle. Do you dare join them? Hyrulian War II

05-03-2008, 12:42 AM	#10
*Wyborn* SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,290 Thanks: 85 Thanked 430 Times in 264 Posts Points: 8,228.00 Bank: 58,672.39 Total Points: 66,900.39 Donate	Spoiler Below Hey I didn't do it. Besides! You know what this means, right? An Avengers movie! And who's in the Avengers? Captain ***ing America, that's who! And Thor! And who's their first enemy in every continuity? THE HULK! This has the potential to be most radical. __________________ Help me out with the best fanfiction ever, Ganondorf Beats Up EVERYONE! You* decide who gets beaten! For the battle-minded and mathematically inclined, there's the Hyrulian War, a revived time-honored tradition!

05-03-2008, 01:51 AM	#12
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,268 Thanks: 69 Thanked 142 Times in 101 Posts Points: 74.10 Bank: 29,668.07 Total Points: 29,742.16 Donate	I should really see it, after suffering through Ghost Rider and because Iron Man and Metal Man aren't too far off. To add to the metallic content of this post I shall now listen to Iron Man by Black Sabbath. \m/

05-03-2008, 09:53 AM	#14
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,630 Thanks: 67 Thanked 291 Times in 193 Posts Points: 15,473.31 Bank: 6,714.67 Total Points: 22,187.98 Donate	Spoiler Below Yeah, I know about the Thor movie. I've heard they've got Kevin McKidd signed for the lead. Odd choice. Still, I suppose he's got the chops to pull off ridiculously violent drama (he starred in 'Rome', for Cliff's sake). I'd argue the point of Captain America being Marvel's best book of the past five years (that clearly being 'Punisher MAX') but that's a matter of personal opinion. Incidentally, I really hate the Avengers, for pretty much the same reason I hate the Justice League--namely, the team is comprised of two or three good characters surrounded by a dozen or so total suckasses who pretty much exist solely as cannon fodder. "Oh, no! I thought my supervillain plot was in trouble back when it was merely Iron Man and Thor trying to kill me, but now Hawkeye is after me, too! Horror of horrors! He might shoot me with that stupid glue arrow! Etc" __________________ The nations of Hyrule are on the march to glory once again. Across the land, brave souls steel themselves for battle. Do you dare join them? Hyrulian War II Last edited by Booyakasha; 05-03-2008 at 10:12 AM.

05-03-2008, 12:04 PM	#15
*Wyborn* SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,290 Thanks: 85 Thanked 430 Times in 264 Posts Points: 8,228.00 Bank: 58,672.39 Total Points: 66,900.39 Donate	Spoiler Below Hey now. Hey. Hey. Everyone knows the Wasp sucks, but if you've read the Ultimates (pick it up - even if you don't like the idea of a black Nick Fury, it's a good introduction to the Ultimate universe) you know they've turned Hawkeye into Bulls-eye on steroids. It's not a matter of everybody fighting the same supervillain - that's ridonculous. Nowadays they will actually go "Gee, dudes, it looks like Ultron here may be a wee bit dangerous for our good friends Captain America and Wasp to try to fight! Let's leave this to THOR, god of thunder and shatterer of worlds!" They actually put members of the teams up against threats that coincide with how capable of dealing with that threat they are - that's why threats in "The Ultimates" are so multi-faceted, like invading armies that need to be hit on multiple front, with the really powerful members actually fighting head-on, serving as a distraction while the likes of Cap go around and kick the asses of whatever asses need kicking behind the scenes. ...Actually, have you read "The Ultimates"? You can pick up the first two volumes, which are a great read, in trade paperback for fairly cheap. I highly recommend it, it's easily the best thing to come out of that continuity. __________________ Help me out with the best fanfiction ever, Ganondorf Beats Up EVERYONE! You decide who gets beaten! For the battle-minded and mathematically inclined, there's the Hyrulian War, a revived time-honored tradition!

05-03-2008, 11:20 PM	#16
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,176 Thanks: 8 Thanked 39 Times in 30 Posts Points: 158,801.09 Bank: 38,101.21 Total Points: 196,902.30 Donate	I'll add to the spoiler text discussion. Spoiler Below A Captain America movie is currently in the works (IMDb says 2009, but you never know). The Hulk movie will feature the second "push" toward an eventual Avengers film (someone cameos). BTW, according to Wikipedia, semi-confirmed heroes for this Avengers film would be Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor. One problem with having many Marvel heroes in one film is that different studios have film rights to different characters (i.e. Kingpin can never be a villain in a Spider-Man film). However, now Marvel has their own studios and they have the film rights to the above characters, so that makes an Avengers movie possible. Finally, why complain about a black Nick Fury when Kingpin was already redone as a black man (and probably the best thing about the Daredevil film). Anyhoo, I'll just link to my actual thoughts on the film. Last edited by Sean P Kelly; 05-03-2008 at 11:27 PM.

05-04-2008, 06:22 PM	#17
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,630 Thanks: 67 Thanked 291 Times in 193 Posts Points: 15,473.31 Bank: 6,714.67 Total Points: 22,187.98 Donate	Spoiler Below I might look into Ultimates some time. Right now I'm getting into Batman trades, and I prophesy that will keep me busy for a while. And, while on the one hand it seems like a good idea to match up your heroes against threats they're capable of dealing with, in the end all that's doing is making losers like Quicksilver feel good about themselves. Kind of patronising. __________________ The nations of Hyrule are on the march to glory once again. Across the land, brave souls steel themselves for battle. Do you dare join them? Hyrulian War II

05-05-2008, 02:07 PM	#18
*Wyborn* SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,290 Thanks: 85 Thanked 430 Times in 264 Posts Points: 8,228.00 Bank: 58,672.39 Total Points: 66,900.39 Donate	Spoiler Below Quicksilver is an unmitigated bad-ass and he scares the **** out of me in Ultimates vol. 2. __________________ Help me out with the best fanfiction ever, Ganondorf Beats Up EVERYONE! You decide who gets beaten! For the battle-minded and mathematically inclined, there's the Hyrulian War, a revived time-honored tradition!

05-05-2008, 08:29 PM	#19
Kae Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,683 Thanks: 40 Thanked 64 Times in 53 Posts Points: 4,194.06 Bank: 6,221.42 Total Points: 10,415.48 Donate	I concur on the agreed-upon ass-kickage of this movie. [You have cured me of my laziness trying to read this conversation... kthnx]

05-06-2008, 11:50 PM	#20
Dr. Furball Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 352 Thanks: 14 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts Points: 93.39 Bank: 1,520.20 Total Points: 1,613.59 Donate	It was awesome. I really liked Stan Lee's obligatory cameo. Spoiler Below I liked the foreshadowing of War Machine when Rhodes considered donning the Mark II suit. I wasn't too thrilled with the public reveal at the end. Iron Man's public identity may have worked out well in the comics when it happened in 2001(?), but I was kinda looking forward to seeing how the bodyguard thing would work out in this day and age. But that's a small nitpick. It was still awesome.