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Old 06-30-2004, 11:36 AM   #61
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Yeah, I was pissed off that Kurt Cobain got ranked higher than guys like CARLOS ****ING SANTANA and Frank Zappa. Then again, Frank Zappa was like number 60 something on their crappy chart, so it shows how much Rolling Stone knows. Listen to "the sheik yerbouti tango" if you don't believe that Frank Zappa is an awesome guitarist.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:37 AM   #62
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At my school Nirvana is far from overrated. Counting me there is only 4 kids in our grade that like Nirvana. In our grade the most overrated band is Led Zeppelin.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:49 PM   #63
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I still stand by my previous comment. Their songs are simply amazing. Just think if they had remained. Musical utopia, man. My opinion, anyway.

Never really liked Pink Floyd much.
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:07 PM   #64
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Those cocks at Rolling Stone put motherucking JACK WHITE at 17, so it's not suprise that Kurt got way up there.
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This is getting quite PP&R Forumy. Can't you all just agree to disagree?
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NEVAR !!!!!!!!1111111

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At my school Nirvana is far from overrated. Counting me there is only 4 kids in our grade that like Nirvana. In our grade the most overrated band is Led Zeppelin.
Uhhh it's impossible for Zeppelin to be overrated. They're so good that anything anyone says that's positive about them has to be true.
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you deserve to be punched.

Led Zeppelin is awesome but I seriously want to punch you.
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Old 07-02-2004, 11:49 PM   #69
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Originally posted by Parrakarry:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Lava64/Kurt Cobain:
At my school Nirvana is far from overrated. Counting me there is only 4 kids in our grade that like Nirvana. In our grade the most overrated band is Led Zeppelin.
Uhhh it's impossible for Zeppelin to be overrated. They're so good that anything anyone says that's positive about them has to be true. </font>[/quote]Agreed.
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Anything can be overrated and overplayed. The degrees of overrating have to vary, though. For example, it doesn't take much to overrate Britney Spears. It takes a lot to overrate (does that even exist as a verb?) Zeppelin, but it's possible.

... Or you could just put it like Carter did .

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Yes... Zeppelin rocks, and Plant has some good solo stuff, though I haven't heard too much. The only people I've ever heard overrate them are posers who, for some reason, think they can 'fit in' by doing so. Makes me mad.

Nirvana? *sigh* Just annoying, the moaning and everything. I STILL don't understand what people think is so great about them.
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Originally posted by Lava64/Kurt Cobain:
Compared to Rock, Rap sucks BIG TIME. I Like some rap, Run-DMC is the best, but most of it really sucks. Plus it don't take much talent to be a rapper.
More ignorance I tend to laugh at.

Look everyone is going to have their own opinoin on a genre, doesn't make it right
I could parade and say "rock sucks" and **** like that, but that'd be more ignorance


Every Genre takes talent

You may THINK (key word) that rap takes no talent

But can YOU make a song everyone will give you credit for

It's not just writing and rhyming because every genre is like that. Every rap song has a message, + or -. Not only does it require skill and talent for rhyming, you need to know how to create beats, and rhyme with bars and etc.

A lot of mainstream rappers are sorry,
IE 50 Cent, JKwon, Nelly, Chingy, St.Lunatics
Ja Rule, Cam'Ron, etc.

And some are not:
Busta, D12, KanYe, Twista, etc.

But most of the best ones are unheard of:
T.I., Lil' Flip, and Various Sounthern artists.

I'm done ehre
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Old 07-12-2004, 02:58 PM   #73
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I love this guy....then again, I'm forced too
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:51 PM   #74
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I suppose you're lookin for guys post 1900, so, in alpahebetical order:

The Beatles
Bill Evans
Black Sabbath
Buddy Rich (And band)
Carlos Santana
The Cannonball Adderley Quintet
Count Basie (And band)
Curtis Fuller
Dave Brubeck
Duke Ellington
George Harrison
Gershwin
Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band
James Brown
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JJ Johnson
John Coltrane
Kansas
Led Zepplin
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Michael Brecker
Miles Davis
Radiohead
Stan Kenton (And orchestra)
Take 6
Tower of Power

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Rap beats can be just as complicated as rock beats, while most rap has better lyrics at the same time.
Actually, rap rythms are signifigantly more complicated than rock beats. I mean, almost to the point of no comparison.

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As was said before about the lyrics thing: heavy metal has an edge over rap. The only problem with some heavy metal is that well thought-out lyrics can be ruined by an inability to understand what the singer is... groaning. Fortunately there are a great deal of groups who sound good too.

A lot of mainstream rap lyrics just suck. If your world doesn't revolve around sex.
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Everything has pros and cons, as far as I know:

Rap: Mainstream version sucks, a lot cannot even rap, they justtalk about the same crap with different beats.

Rock/Metal/ETC: See ^'s post

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When I said rap sucked I ment Mainstream rap like Chingy and Nelly. Sorry for not being descriptive. It's just that those dips*its are on the radio so often around here I hardly ever here anything but crap.
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When I said rap sucked I ment Mainstream rap like Chingy and Nelly. Sorry for not being descriptive. It's just that those dips*its are on the radio so often around here I hardly ever here anything but crap.
Man you are so right!
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It depends. What IS good about rap though is it has a lot of hidden messages, and yes, a lot of mainstream rap does suck.
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And you don't think rock has hidden messages?

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