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Col. Les Claypool · 09-19-2006, 05:39 PM

Holy crap. Rap artists have become so unoriginal, that they decided to grab ideas from children's songs. I thought they were low with "Snap music," but this?

Demonicus Prime · 09-19-2006, 07:10 PM

That's one of the only rap songs I like......

Shine Dude · 09-19-2006, 07:20 PM

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Sonic 5 · 09-19-2006, 07:35 PM

I don't remember how that rhyme goes...

Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) · 09-19-2006, 09:02 PM

Well sir, I wouldn't categorize all rap because of a select few retarded songs.

As for Snap Music, it's different, and it's something new, it's something easy that everyone can do, and it's selling.

Brandon2390 · 09-19-2006, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshiFreak

That's one of the only rap songs I like......

If that's really true, you're one of the reasons mainstream hip hop is where it's at today.

Honestly, that song is pretty original compared to a lot of the stuff thats out today. I've heard rehashed nursery rhymes in rock songs too, so I wouldnt knock the song just because of that. The song itself is annoying and shows no lyrical promise(Which in my opinion is the most important part of a hip hop track), however, it does have a nice flow, and the song is addicting.

Koga · 09-20-2006, 06:14 AM

I don't even know what snap is.

Bomby · 09-20-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon2390

If that's really true, you're one of the reasons mainstream hip hop is where it's at today.

Honestly, that song is pretty original compared to a lot of the stuff thats out today. I've heard rehashed nursery rhymes in rock songs too, so I wouldnt knock the song just because of that. The song itself is annoying and shows no lyrical promise(Which in my opinion is the most important part of a hip hop track), however, it does have a nice flow, and the song is addicting.

The death of lyricism has been a painfully slow one. It's not just South's fault, as some of the best lyricists have come from the South and some of the worst lyricists have come from other regions (recent Cam'ron

).

I just think the song is unbelieveably annoying. Plus, I thought this whole "bling bling" think died off a years ago. It'll be a sad day when ignorant kids of the future look back on "Chain Hang Low" and "Bling Bling" as important pieces of hip hop history. It's bad enough that we give a pass to rappers who continue to rap about pimping, selling drugs, and the glorification of black-on-black violence without showing the consequences of these actions simply because they're able to put it a clever way. Believe my, I'm as guilty as anyone, as I own every Ghostface Killah and T.I. album.

Whatever happened to the Ice Cube's, Ice-T's, the KRS One's, the Public Enemy's, the Tribes known simply as "Quest?" I'll tell you what happened: much of the pro-black music doesn't appeal to most white people, who became the number one consumers of rap music, either because it scares them or they just can't relate to it.

People got too caught up in being gangsta during the 90's. Gangsta rap isn't even the same as it used to be. I guarantee, if Dr. Dre were recording The Chronic today, "The Day the N#!$!z Took Over" would not make the final cut of the album.

It's ironic that so many rappers talk about being like 2Pac, and how he's their favorite rapper, yet they have absolutely no clue what 2Pac stood for. It's like... have you even heard "Holla if you Hear Me?" Have you heard "Keep Ya Head Up?" "Me Against the World?" "Brenda's Got a Baby?" Have you even heard "Changes" for heaven's sake??? The same people who show respect to 2Pac will totally clown a rapper who tries to make a song like those!! Look at how much respect Little Brother gets from mainstream audiences... just sad, just sad.

Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) · 09-20-2006, 02:06 PM

Well I wouldn't completely say that TIP and Ghostface glorify all that stuff. What makes them standout from most (their old stuff mainly), is that they find a clever way to paint stories and pictures from what they've done. I don't have too much GFK stuff, but I can tell you that TIP talks about his old life while trying to put in people's heads that it's not the best or right thing to do.

Bomby · 09-20-2006, 02:17 PM

^ Good point, how could I forget songs like "Be Better than Me?" T.I.'s not the best example... 50 Cent, there's a good example. Nothing positive about that dude at all, really.

Koga · 09-20-2006, 02:24 PM

Malik what you said in your long post is borderline racist.

Brandon2390 · 09-20-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik Zaki Jamesha

^ Good point, how could I forget songs like "Be Better than Me?" T.I.'s not the best example... 50 Cent, there's a good example. Nothing positive about that dude at all, really.

I have a 50 cent CD on my computer actually..Power of the Dollar is ill. Massacre = worst trash ever released.

And though I sort of agree with what Malik said, I think it could have been said differently.

Bomby · 09-20-2006, 02:46 PM

Power of the Dollar was good, Get Rich or Die Trying was good, Massacre sucked. But that doesn't mean the the music has positive messages.

There, I edited it. Better?

Brandon2390 · 09-20-2006, 02:51 PM

Yea, much better and gets the point across. I see what you're saying.

Bomby · 09-20-2006, 02:57 PM

I have a habit of sounding like I'm making generalizations.

... hold up, am I becoming Bill Cosby??

Koga · 09-20-2006, 03:04 PM

I can see where you are coming from as well, but it does sound a lot better now that you've edited it.

Personally, I judt don't care about rap music. I'm just not interested in it.

Demonicus Prime · 09-20-2006, 04:52 PM

It's not that I hate all rap, it's that I like that particular song more than the other recent releases. Better?

Brandon2390 · 09-20-2006, 07:34 PM

It's cool, your tastes are your tastes. All I'm saying is that's like saying "Dance, Dance" by Fallout Boy is better than any of the songs the Beatles or Led Zepplin made.

Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) · 09-20-2006, 08:03 PM

Changing white to the majority of the suburbia population? That'd be better.

Rap died down when the source of the money changed hands. When suburban ears caught wind of the music, and began to get interested, the power of the purchase shifted to their hands, and in order to make money, a majority of artists leaned towards what the masses wanted to hear.

You can't blame them though, they can love to make music and get money at the same time, eventually, you notice which was the greater objective to them. That seems to be the course they went. There are few who keep their original styles, in other words, they don't adjust to the mainstream to get popular/money who achieve success.

Bomby · 09-20-2006, 08:24 PM

It's the record labels' faults, first and foremost.

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09-20-2006, 02:57 PM	#15
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09-20-2006, 08:03 PM	#19
Sen. Brak Obama (FACE) Polk/McLaughlin '08: The Greatness You Already Knew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 12,956 Thanks: 918 Thanked 646 Times in 378 Posts Points: 49,508.76 Bank: 453,716.50 Total Points: 503,225.26 Donate	Changing white to the majority of the suburbia population? That'd be better. Rap died down when the source of the money changed hands. When suburban ears caught wind of the music, and began to get interested, the power of the purchase shifted to their hands, and in order to make money, a majority of artists leaned towards what the masses wanted to hear. You can't blame them though, they can love to make music and get money at the same time, eventually, you notice which was the greater objective to them. That seems to be the course they went. There are few who keep their original styles, in other words, they don't adjust to the mainstream to get popular/money who achieve success. __________________

09-19-2006, 07:10 PM	#2
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09-20-2006, 06:14 AM	#7
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,094 Thanks: 105 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 103,673.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,425.82 Donate	I don't even know what snap is.

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Bomby Song 2 : Whoo Hoo Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mad City, WI Gender: Posts: 14,438 Thanks: 192 Thanked 420 Times in 299 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 1,513.72 Bank: 1,677,553.97 Total Points: 1,679,067.69 Donate	^ Good point, how could I forget songs like "Be Better than Me?" T.I.'s not the best example... 50 Cent, there's a good example. Nothing positive about that dude at all, really.

09-20-2006, 02:24 PM	#11
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,094 Thanks: 105 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 103,673.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,425.82 Donate	Malik what you said in your long post is borderline racist.

09-20-2006, 02:46 PM	#13
Bomby Song 2 : Whoo Hoo Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mad City, WI Gender: Posts: 14,438 Thanks: 192 Thanked 420 Times in 299 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 1,513.72 Bank: 1,677,553.97 Total Points: 1,679,067.69 Donate	Power of the Dollar was good, Get Rich or Die Trying was good, Massacre sucked. But that doesn't mean the the music has positive messages. There, I edited it. Better?

09-20-2006, 02:51 PM	#14
Brandon2390 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,325 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Points: 35,820.66 Bank: 757.83 Total Points: 36,578.49 Donate	Yea, much better and gets the point across. I see what you're saying.

09-20-2006, 03:04 PM	#16
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,094 Thanks: 105 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 103,673.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,425.82 Donate	I can see where you are coming from as well, but it does sound a lot better now that you've edited it. Personally, I judt don't care about rap music. I'm just not interested in it.

09-20-2006, 04:52 PM	#17
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,887 Thanks: 553 Thanked 93 Times in 67 Posts Points: 9,831.51 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,831.51 Donate	It's not that I hate all rap, it's that I like that particular song more than the other recent releases. Better?

09-20-2006, 07:34 PM	#18
Brandon2390 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,325 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Points: 35,820.66 Bank: 757.83 Total Points: 36,578.49 Donate	It's cool, your tastes are your tastes. All I'm saying is that's like saying "Dance, Dance" by Fallout Boy is better than any of the songs the Beatles or Led Zepplin made.

09-20-2006, 08:24 PM	#20
Bomby Song 2 : Whoo Hoo Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mad City, WI Gender: Posts: 14,438 Thanks: 192 Thanked 420 Times in 299 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 1,513.72 Bank: 1,677,553.97 Total Points: 1,679,067.69 Donate	It's the record labels' faults, first and foremost.