The RIAA does another really evil thing. - VGF

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-22-2006, 11:32 PM

First, they have to basically shut down the independent music industry.

Next, they spam emails, use spyware, and sue people who didn't do anything.

Now, they want to criminalize simply linking externally to other sites.

I never obeyed the RIAA, and nether should you. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 12-23-2006, 02:34 AM

Some stupid ruling by an Aussie court won't effect anyone outside of Aussieland.

You have more to worry about the potential end of net neutrality, but that's on the telecom industry, not the RIAA.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-23-2006, 11:11 AM

^Yeah, but Congress is going to do something similar next year. -CSM

**Sean P Kelly** · 12-23-2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Oh you don’t want to mess
With the RIAA
They’ll sue you if you burn that Cd-R.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a grandma
Or a seven year old girl
They’ll treat you like the evil Hard-bitten criminal scum you are

- Weird Al

***CaptHayfever*** · 12-23-2006, 03:50 PM

That ruling is tantamount to saying that it's copyright infringement to telling someone where the record store is. Stinkin' amazing.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Lurch1982 · 12-23-2006, 04:13 PM

Except they're not. Odds of Congress doing anything are remote. I can likely get a bill introduced if I make the right calls and talk to the right politicians, but it won't mean anything until it gets through the series of tubes. Ironically enough, the same term (series of tubes) is used for net neutrality, and the fight for net neutrality isn't over by a longshot. While Cable and telecom providers are running ads against it, the long and short of it is that enough experts and people important to Internet policy are saying that Net Neutrality is important enough to protect and I don't see anything telling me otherwise.

Some court in a country that is known for crackpot decisions and heavy-handed censorship/copyright/anything policies really doesn't mean anything to the rest of the world. No higher court in the US will recognize that ruling, and really I don't see a court in the Western World taking that.

Going further, you don't have a right to steal music. File sharing has legitimate uses, but stealing music/movies/programs/whatever isn't one of them. I'd be wary of giving money to a site that seems like it was set up by some kids who like to whine about local music on myspace. If you really want to do something about RIAA tactics, support groups with .org after their domains, not .com. Hell, give to EFF.org. They at least do things about it instead of going emo on a website with stories written by numbnuts that think aussie rulings are going to have any sort of bearing on the rest of the world and provide nothing but worst case theories.

In short, your site = whining. EFF = action.

And for the record, Weird Al blows, as do his fans. Not funny, never was, never will be.

12-22-2006, 11:32 PM	#1
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12-23-2006, 04:13 PM	#6
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,118 Thanks: 119 Thanked 187 Times in 121 Posts Points: 25,465.70 Bank: 138,943.96 Total Points: 164,409.66 Donate	Except they're not. Odds of Congress doing anything are remote. I can likely get a bill introduced if I make the right calls and talk to the right politicians, but it won't mean anything until it gets through the series of tubes. Ironically enough, the same term (series of tubes) is used for net neutrality, and the fight for net neutrality isn't over by a longshot. While Cable and telecom providers are running ads against it, the long and short of it is that enough experts and people important to Internet policy are saying that Net Neutrality is important enough to protect and I don't see anything telling me otherwise. Some court in a country that is known for crackpot decisions and heavy-handed censorship/copyright/anything policies really doesn't mean anything to the rest of the world. No higher court in the US will recognize that ruling, and really I don't see a court in the Western World taking that. Going further, you don't have a right to steal music. File sharing has legitimate uses, but stealing music/movies/programs/whatever isn't one of them. I'd be wary of giving money to a site that seems like it was set up by some kids who like to whine about local music on myspace. If you really want to do something about RIAA tactics, support groups with .org after their domains, not .com. Hell, give to EFF.org. They at least do things about it instead of going emo on a website with stories written by numbnuts that think aussie rulings are going to have any sort of bearing on the rest of the world and provide nothing but worst case theories. In short, your site = whining. EFF = action. And for the record, Weird Al blows, as do his fans. Not funny, never was, never will be.