A Quick Question - Page 3

ChuckleHuck · 03-30-2007, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I noticed a lot of people don't like country. It's all the same. You lost your job, you're broke, your dog ran off.

If you play country music backwards, you get promoted, your dog comes come, and you win the lottery.

Country music is typicaly about sorrowful topics. In country, you're either in love, heartbroken, or drunk. I hate this predictable cycle, so I only prefer old country.

On the other hand, music is an art, and art expreses fellings. But sometimes...people see that as b*tching about something that they don't care about.

I see it that way, but I am trying to prevent the habbit of it.

Brandon2390 · 03-30-2007, 11:05 PM

I think Hip Hop is a culture in general. Well thats how I've always seen it. Hip Hop consists of but aren't limited to the following things:

Emceeing(Rap)
Tagging
B-Boying or breakdancing
Battling
Making Beats

So basically I think the difference between Hip Hop and Rap is Hip Hop is a whole culture in general while rap is a style of music or a distinct part of hip hop if you will. It's like KRS-One(Another great rapper) said:

"Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is something you live."

Bomby · 03-31-2007, 09:53 PM

^ That's the more common definition. But I like mine more.

blaziken3 · 03-31-2007, 09:54 PM

I dunno

Brandon2390 · 04-01-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomby DeNiro

^ That's the more common definition. But I like mine more.

Well I mean if mine is the real definition though yours is completely different. I'm just giving the standards here, cause most people here have never heard a decent rap track in their lifetime.

Bomby · 04-04-2007, 11:41 PM

^ True.

Poor, deprived, Illmatic-less souls.

Koga · 04-05-2007, 04:59 AM

I don't get it why you want other people to like your music so much. Sure, I can imagine you want to share your favourite music with other people, but when they don't like the premise of the genre, why do you want them to listen to 'good' rap or 'true' rap to change their mind? I fully accept that many of my friends don't like music I like and although I try to have them listen to it, when they don't like it, I don't bother them anymore. I would never say to anyone, that they would have to listen to a particular song to try and get them to like a certain genre or artist.

Brandon2390 · 04-06-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koga

I don't get it why you want other people to like your music so much. Sure, I can imagine you want to share your favourite music with other people, but when they don't like the premise of the genre, why do you want them to listen to 'good' rap or 'true' rap to change their mind? I fully accept that many of my friends don't like music I like and although I try to have them listen to it, when they don't like it, I don't bother them anymore. I would never say to anyone, that they would have to listen to a particular song to try and get them to like a certain genre or artist.

Why? Because those of us who have listened to and heard every aspect of decent hip hop have had to listen to for the last 10 years that rap "Takes no talent" that rap "lacks substance". And trust me, when people actually do listen to decent rap and still say they dont like it, then I back off. Other types of music aren't stereotyped like rap is. Nobody usually says rock doesn't take any talent, or country music is talentless. Every once in a while I'll hear that rock musicians only scream, but not nearly as much as the rap reference. Nobody's trying to get anybody to like what they like. What they're trying to do is at least get somebody else to understand how you may like the song because there IS substance and there IS talent that goes into making those certain songs. It's beyond annoying when you hear 3 times a day people say that rapping does not take talent because they dont play their own instruments or anything(A lot of which isnt even true).

Koga · 04-07-2007, 04:06 AM

I think pop artists who only sing (i.e. don't write, and don't play any instruments) get less respect than most rappers. I know they do from me.

ShyGuy727 · 04-07-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Koga

I didn't know anyone in the US listened to that. It was huge in the Netherlands in the mid 90s and I listened to it a lot back then. What artists do you listen to in this genre?

Sorry, forgot about this topic.

I'll listen to whatever comes on DI.fm's Hardcore station, but favs that have on my MP3 player/on CDs are Hixxy, Scott Brown, Breeze, Styles, AC Slater, Flip and Fill, Brisk (and Ham), Sy, EFM-7, Dougal, etc. Yeah, no one really underground or not famous.

Now I have a question for you...I've been getting into jumpstyle lately, and I know that it is bigger in Belgium and the Netherlands than it is anywhere else in the world...I've seen many media links and stories from BEL and NED about people (i.e. Patrick) becoming famous for making jumpen videos to jumpstyle music. I love the stuff, and I've gotten pretty good at jumping as well. How popular is it? I noticed on Google Video Netherlands that a few of Patrick's videos are in the top 10 and top 5 most viewed, so I imagine it's becoming a somewhat household thing?

PadresFN619 · 04-07-2007, 02:13 PM

I'm a Mexican soo I like to listen to Mexican music
some example are Rancheras, Banda, Romanticas

and in english i like to listen to R&B and Hip Hop

Koga · 04-08-2007, 05:33 AM

None of the artists you mentioned ever made over here, Shyguy. There were a lot of Dutch artists who were succesful in the genre, but I don't think any of them made it to the States (most didn't even make it across the border, I think).

Yes, Jumping or Jumpen is very popular in the Netherlands. I see kids doing it in the schoolyard all the time. My little brother works in a bar/dancing, and he told me that when a jump style song plays the entire dancefloor is filled with jumping youngsters. It's really the first new dance since hakken in the mid nineties (which I used to do as well, and still do sometimes for nostalgia's sake). Let me try to find a video of that.

YouTube - Party Animals - Aquarius by HLH

The dance starts after about 1:30.

ShyGuy727 · 04-08-2007, 11:19 AM

Awesome. I was always under the impression that the hakken was just another name for the same dance or something- thanks for clearing that up. Man, I want to go to Europe even more now, especially Belgium and Nederland.

Koga · 04-08-2007, 12:53 PM

Btw, I don't really know where the name hakken comes from, because it can be a verb (which translated to 'to chop') and a plural noun (which translates to 'heels'). In Dutch the -en suffix is used for all verbs in infinitive and plural and for some plural nouns.

Demonicus Prime · 04-08-2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I noticed a lot of people don't like country. It's all the same. You lost your job, you're broke, your dog ran off.

If you play country music backwards, you get promoted, your dog comes come, and you win the lottery.

*coughRascalFlattscough*

Botfly · 04-08-2007, 05:23 PM

I very much enjoy progressive rock, post rock, indie, electronic, metal, folk, psychedellic, jazz, classical, hip hop, videogame, experimental... anything with either soul, talent, ingenuity, thought, or a nice melody put into it. A real sucker for dark and atmospheric stuff as well.

03-30-2007, 11:05 PM	#42
Brandon2390 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,399 Thanks: 6 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts Points: 39,608.68 Bank: 1,019.94 Total Points: 40,628.62 Donate	I think Hip Hop is a culture in general. Well thats how I've always seen it. Hip Hop consists of but aren't limited to the following things: Emceeing(Rap) Tagging B-Boying or breakdancing Battling Making Beats So basically I think the difference between Hip Hop and Rap is Hip Hop is a whole culture in general while rap is a style of music or a distinct part of hip hop if you will. It's like KRS-One(Another great rapper) said: "Rap is something you do, Hip Hop is something you live."

03-31-2007, 09:53 PM	#43
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03-31-2007, 09:54 PM	#44
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04-04-2007, 11:41 PM	#46
Bomby My name is Stereotype with an A Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Searching the city for Sci-Fi Wasabi Gender: Posts: 15,188 Thanks: 210 Thanked 613 Times in 399 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 7,776.40 Bank: 2,506,696.76 Total Points: 2,514,473.17 Donate	^ True. Poor, deprived, Illmatic-less souls.

04-05-2007, 04:59 AM	#47
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 173 Times in 116 Posts Points: 105,695.41 Bank: 19,215.78 Total Points: 124,911.19 Donate	I don't get it why you want other people to like your music so much. Sure, I can imagine you want to share your favourite music with other people, but when they don't like the premise of the genre, why do you want them to listen to 'good' rap or 'true' rap to change their mind? I fully accept that many of my friends don't like music I like and although I try to have them listen to it, when they don't like it, I don't bother them anymore. I would never say to anyone, that they would have to listen to a particular song to try and get them to like a certain genre or artist.

04-07-2007, 04:06 AM	#49
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 173 Times in 116 Posts Points: 105,695.41 Bank: 19,215.78 Total Points: 124,911.19 Donate	I think pop artists who only sing (i.e. don't write, and don't play any instruments) get less respect than most rappers. I know they do from me.

04-07-2007, 02:13 PM	#51
PadresFN619 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ESD JR Gender: Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,016.25 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,016.25 Donate	I'm a Mexican soo I like to listen to Mexican music some example are Rancheras, Banda, Romanticas and in english i like to listen to R&B and Hip Hop

04-08-2007, 05:33 AM	#52
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 173 Times in 116 Posts Points: 105,695.41 Bank: 19,215.78 Total Points: 124,911.19 Donate	None of the artists you mentioned ever made over here, Shyguy. There were a lot of Dutch artists who were succesful in the genre, but I don't think any of them made it to the States (most didn't even make it across the border, I think). Yes, Jumping or Jumpen is very popular in the Netherlands. I see kids doing it in the schoolyard all the time. My little brother works in a bar/dancing, and he told me that when a jump style song plays the entire dancefloor is filled with jumping youngsters. It's really the first new dance since hakken in the mid nineties (which I used to do as well, and still do sometimes for nostalgia's sake). Let me try to find a video of that. YouTube - Party Animals - Aquarius by HLH The dance starts after about 1:30.

04-08-2007, 11:19 AM	#53
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,038 Thanks: 35 Thanked 61 Times in 45 Posts Points: 28,774.13 Bank: 13,883.54 Total Points: 42,657.67 Donate	Awesome. I was always under the impression that the hakken was just another name for the same dance or something- thanks for clearing that up. Man, I want to go to Europe even more now, especially Belgium and Nederland.

04-08-2007, 12:53 PM	#54
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 173 Times in 116 Posts Points: 105,695.41 Bank: 19,215.78 Total Points: 124,911.19 Donate	Btw, I don't really know where the name hakken comes from, because it can be a verb (which translated to 'to chop') and a plural noun (which translates to 'heels'). In Dutch the -en suffix is used for all verbs in infinitive and plural and for some plural nouns.

04-08-2007, 05:23 PM	#56
Botfly Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Gender: Posts: 102 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 2,533.35 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 2,533.35 Donate	I very much enjoy progressive rock, post rock, indie, electronic, metal, folk, psychedellic, jazz, classical, hip hop, videogame, experimental... anything with either soul, talent, ingenuity, thought, or a nice melody put into it. A real sucker for dark and atmospheric stuff as well.