2011 Grammys

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-13-2011, 10:31 PM

So yeah, I think there were <10 categories actually announced during the show, so I'm just gonna talk about a couple interesting moments:

--At the very end of the "In Memoriam" reel sat legendary record exec Don Kirschner, accompanied by a clip from "Daydream Believer" by the Monkees. Kirschner's song selection for the Monkees arguably contributed to their early success...but "Daydream Believer" was recorded AFTER the band got Kirschner fired from their label for being an arrogant control freak who didn't know where his authority ended. Irony, thy name is Grammy.

--The president of the music Academy all but declared financial war against the RIAA. Awesome.

Anybody else watch? What moments stuck out for you?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

ZeldaGirl · 02-13-2011, 11:36 PM

Esperanza. Spalding.

!!

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-14-2011, 02:23 AM

My tags agree with you.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Bomby · 02-14-2011, 12:55 PM

They still have these?

Glux · 02-14-2011, 01:02 PM

Grammys? Pfft.

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-15-2011, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

--The president of the music Academy all but declared financial war against the RIAA. Awesome.

Could you elaborate? I haven't heard anything about this, and I find that very interesting.

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-15-2011, 10:30 AM

He gave a speech about the Academy's current efforts to establish legal ways of distributing music where the artists see more of the profit, as opposed to others. It was implicit.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Panfan · 02-15-2011, 05:39 PM

I heard Arcade Fire won Album of the Year.

I regained some hope in humanity at that moment. Then I found out that the God-awful "Need You Now" won Record and Song of the Year, when it was competing with "**** You" AKA hands-down the best song of 2010.

Also, please tell me that Alex Chilton got recognition in the in memoriam. I heard that Guru of Gang Starr got snubbed, and that they didn't play any Dio. Also guessing that indie deaths like Mark Linkous, Trish Keenan, and Jay Reatard didn't get any love either.

Edit: Language warning.

Who Is Arcade Fire??!!?

So hilarious. They had the Goddamn #1 album in America and nobody knows who they are. Also, basically every music critic ever put it in their top ten albums of last year. And plus I am in music circles where not knowing who Arcade Fire are is like not knowing who the Beatles are. Best ones are the ones who think popularity = quality and the people who think that "Arcade Fire" is the album and The Suburbs is the band.

Though speaking of Arcade Fire... they won Album of the year, but Black Keys won Alternative Album of the Year? How does that even work?

Glux · 02-15-2011, 06:38 PM

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Then I found out that the God-awful "Need You Now" won Record and Song of the Year

I HATE THAT SONG SO MUCH! IT'S SO ANNOYING!!!

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-15-2011, 10:12 PM

^^Album of the Year has a wider voting pool than Alt Album.
I'd heard of Arcade Fire before, but the first time I actually heard them was on SNL last fall. They did a digital short with Samberg that week, too.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

ZeldaGirl · 02-15-2011, 10:37 PM

I've only heard one of their songs, but I really liked it.

But, there is not enough discussion on Esperanza-freaking-Spalding here. Seriously...she's amazing. And she beat Justin Bieber. RESPECT, people!

Kargath · 02-16-2011, 02:26 AM

What's her best song?

I just looked up a performance on some morning show and she seemed mediocre in the short time I gave her.

ZeldaGirl · 02-16-2011, 02:45 AM

Aaaaannd Kargath comments to be contrary. What a surprise.

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***CaptHayfever*** · 02-16-2011, 02:47 AM

Her best song is "I Slayed Bieberzebub" in G-Major. Where G stands for Grammy.

I don't actually know much of her stuff. I've liked what little I've heard, though.
I'm also liking Mumford & Sons and Florence & The Machine, so either of them winning would've been fine by me, too. (But they're both kinda weird, & weird tends not to win major categories; e.g., in a nearly 30-year career, They Might Be Giants has won only in specialty categories: Soundtrack Song and Children's Album.)

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Kargath · 02-16-2011, 02:55 AM

I'm not commenting to be contrary, ZG. :eyeroll:

OK, I listened to the one you posted as I was surfing other sites. She performed better there than on the morning show.
She's got a decent voice and playing skills, but no real sense of smooth lyrical pacing. It's good background music for a restaurant, but not something I'd buy as a single or album.

I haven't heard anything off Arcade Fire's new album, but I haven't owned a radio in months either.

ZeldaGirl · 02-16-2011, 02:59 AM

Every comment you make is to be contrary. I could probably post an entire topic filled with quotations just dedicated to the fact you disagree whenever you can.

Kargath · 02-16-2011, 03:13 AM

What the hell?

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-16-2011, 06:10 AM

I really dislike smooth jazz, which clearly plays a big influence in what I'm going to say is this weird fusion thing she's doing. Kargath's got similar tastes musically to me so I imagine he's probably just not into it. I'm not only not into it, I don't really see it doing anything new or interesting, and it's actually got a pretty boring cacophonic quality to it that I find irritating.

Kargath not only usually lacks tact, however, he seems to consider that a positive trait.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 02-16-2011, 06:15 AM

*sticks hand up* I kind of hated what I heard of those songs, too, sorry. Totally not interesting to me, totally not something I would listen to, and totally, definitely something that would piss me off if it was playing in the background at a restaurant I was eating at.

It's all the opposite of what I like in music, so I sympathise with Karg: mediocrity at its, well, usual.

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Auron · 02-16-2011, 07:40 AM

I just don't really give a damn about the Grammys. None of the music I listen to will ever receive mainstream recognition, and that's fine with me. The only band in the entire nomination list that I have any slight interest in is Muse, and I was rather surprised they got nominated at all because their latest album was quite subpar in my opinion.

I just feel like the Grammys are more about who you are, not what you did.

02-15-2011, 05:39 PM	#8
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,337 Posts Blog Entries: 15	I heard Arcade Fire won Album of the Year. I regained some hope in humanity at that moment. Then I found out that the God-awful "Need You Now" won Record and Song of the Year, when it was competing with "**** You" AKA hands-down the best song of 2010. Also, please tell me that Alex Chilton got recognition in the in memoriam. I heard that Guru of Gang Starr got snubbed, and that they didn't play any Dio. Also guessing that indie deaths like Mark Linkous, Trish Keenan, and Jay Reatard didn't get any love either. Edit: Language warning. Who Is Arcade Fire??!!? So hilarious. They had the Goddamn #1 album in America and nobody knows who they are. Also, basically every music critic ever put it in their top ten albums of last year. And plus I am in music circles where not knowing who Arcade Fire are is like not knowing who the Beatles are. Best ones are the ones who think popularity = quality and the people who think that "Arcade Fire" is the album and The Suburbs is the band. Though speaking of Arcade Fire... they won Album of the year, but Black Keys won Alternative Album of the Year? How does that even work? Last edited by Panfan; 02-15-2011 at 06:25 PM.

02-13-2011, 10:31 PM	#1
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	2011 Grammys So yeah, I think there were <10 categories actually announced during the show, so I'm just gonna talk about a couple interesting moments: --At the very end of the "In Memoriam" reel sat legendary record exec Don Kirschner, accompanied by a clip from "Daydream Believer" by the Monkees. Kirschner's song selection for the Monkees arguably contributed to their early success...but "Daydream Believer" was recorded AFTER the band got Kirschner fired from their label for being an arrogant control freak who didn't know where his authority ended. Irony, thy name is Grammy. --The president of the music Academy all but declared financial war against the RIAA. Awesome. Anybody else watch? What moments stuck out for you? And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-13-2011, 11:36 PM	#2
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Esperanza. Spalding. !!

02-14-2011, 02:23 AM	#3
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	My tags agree with you. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-14-2011, 12:55 PM	#4
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	They still have these?

02-14-2011, 01:02 PM	#5
Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,121 Thanks: 647 Thanked 360 Times in 236 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Grammys? Pfft.

02-15-2011, 10:30 AM	#7
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	He gave a speech about the Academy's current efforts to establish legal ways of distributing music where the artists see more of the profit, as opposed to others. It was implicit. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-15-2011, 10:12 PM	#10
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^Album of the Year has a wider voting pool than Alt Album. I'd heard of Arcade Fire before, but the first time I actually heard them was on SNL last fall. They did a digital short with Samberg that week, too. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-15-2011, 10:37 PM	#11
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	I've only heard one of their songs, but I really liked it. But, there is not enough discussion on Esperanza-freaking-Spalding here. Seriously...she's amazing. And she beat Justin Bieber. RESPECT, people!

02-16-2011, 02:26 AM	#12
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	What's her best song? I just looked up a performance on some morning show and she seemed mediocre in the short time I gave her.

02-16-2011, 02:47 AM	#14
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Her best song is "I Slayed Bieberzebub" in G-Major. Where G stands for Grammy. I don't actually know much of her stuff. I've liked what little I've heard, though. I'm also liking Mumford & Sons and Florence & The Machine, so either of them winning would've been fine by me, too. (But they're both kinda weird, & weird tends not to win major categories; e.g., in a nearly 30-year career, They Might Be Giants has won only in specialty categories: Soundtrack Song and Children's Album.) And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-16-2011, 02:55 AM	#15
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	I'm not commenting to be contrary, ZG. :eyeroll: OK, I listened to the one you posted as I was surfing other sites. She performed better there than on the morning show. She's got a decent voice and playing skills, but no real sense of smooth lyrical pacing. It's good background music for a restaurant, but not something I'd buy as a single or album. I haven't heard anything off Arcade Fire's new album, but I haven't owned a radio in months either.

02-16-2011, 02:59 AM	#16
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Every comment you make is to be contrary. I could probably post an entire topic filled with quotations just dedicated to the fact you disagree whenever you can.

02-16-2011, 03:13 AM	#17
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	What the hell?

02-16-2011, 06:10 AM	#18
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	I really dislike smooth jazz, which clearly plays a big influence in what I'm going to say is this weird fusion thing she's doing. Kargath's got similar tastes musically to me so I imagine he's probably just not into it. I'm not only not into it, I don't really see it doing anything new or interesting, and it's actually got a pretty boring cacophonic quality to it that I find irritating. Kargath not only usually lacks tact, however, he seems to consider that a positive trait.

02-16-2011, 06:15 AM	#19
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	sticks hand up I kind of hated what I heard of those songs, too, sorry. Totally not interesting to me, totally not something I would listen to, and totally, definitely something that would piss me off if it was playing in the background at a restaurant I was eating at. It's all the opposite of what I like in music, so I sympathise with Karg: mediocrity at its, well, usual. http://theDragonsHoard.bigcartel.com \| Handmade gemstone jewellery

02-16-2011, 07:40 AM	#20
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	I just don't really give a damn about the Grammys. None of the music I listen to will ever receive mainstream recognition, and that's fine with me. The only band in the entire nomination list that I have any slight interest in is Muse, and I was rather surprised they got nominated at all because their latest album was quite subpar in my opinion. I just feel like the Grammys are more about who you are, not what you did.