Dumb thing Nintendo did.

[MC Luigi]

Originally Posted by CodieKitty

And forever killed their third party support with the N64 cartridge thing.

And the Virtual Boy.

And Yoshi's Story.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

The Virtual boy wasn't bad, unless you count that it was all red and dangerous to those under 7. And Yoshi's Story wasn't a dumb thing, it wasn't SO bad. But it was a mistake....

[hollis]

I think the above picture would be very workable with wing style grips. Also switch the locations of the D-pad and left analog stick. In my experience that config works better for 1st person games such as Halo(X-BOX) and Metroid Prime(GCN) which if I'm not mistaken gets another itteration on the Revolution

[MC Luigi]

Originally Posted by Better Than Bandit's

Thus they were dumb things, idiot.

And thus, yhey were not. A mistake isn't always dumb, and a horrible system is not dumb, it's really retarted. And thus, you're the idiot. I'm just not gonna bother with you.

[hollis]

I did some paint shop editing. What does everybody think?
never mind I have'nt made 15 posts yet

[Codiekitty]

Nintendo still acts like they don't need third party support, and continues to alienate them with things like the GCN controller.

I'm not sure if "discontinuing it" could be considered the make-up for the Virtual Boy, but they threw out Gunpei Yokoi, rest his soul, because of it. You know, the guy who gave us Metroid and the Game Boy?

Sure, nothing's going to erase Yoshi's Story from the face of the earth, but at least Nintendo could acknowledge it was garbage. But rather than coming out and making a public apology for it, they continue to act like it was a great game.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[MC Luigi]

You keep acting like Yoshi's Story is so bad! Other than it being so easy and cutesy, it can take a very long time to beat if you collect all the melons and unlock the hidden levels.
Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support. Look at the Wii. Completely original, and though it didn't impress much at first, now look. Gamers abandoned Sony and Microsoft for it. It's amazing. Also, HUMOUNGOUSLY successful things, such as Mario and Zelda and Metroid was made with NO 3RD PARTY SUPPORT.
Firing Gunpei Yokoi was just wrong, man. That is dumb.

[Codiekitty]

Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

You keep acting like Yoshi's Story is so bad! Other than it being so easy and cutesy, it can take a very long time to beat if you collect all the melons and unlock the hidden levels.

I don't give a damn about "OMG, find all the hidden junk!" on a game with hideous controls, nonexistent level design, and sound that would make a dog wimper. The only stage I haven't played yet is 6-4, and I don't see myself reacting to it with "Wow, this stage was so totally awesome I'll forgive that the other 23 were unstructured messes that could be beaten by a five year old if the controls were competent!"

As I've said before, it is not a complement to say the only way to get anything out of a game is to do a bunch of worthless optional crap.

Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support. Look at the Wii. Completely original, and though it didn't impress much at first, now look. Gamers abandoned Sony and Microsoft for it. It's amazing.

First off, I fail to see how your "proof" has anything to do with Nintendo not needing third party support. Second, since when has everybody in the world abandoned Sony and Microsoft for the Wii?

I've personally abandoned this entire generation of gaming, but eh.

Also, HUMOUNGOUSLY successful things, such as Mario and Zelda and Metroid was made with NO 3RD PARTY SUPPORT.

If Nintendo could "win" with just first party games, why did the PSX kick the N64's ass? Why did the PS2 and Xbox kick the GCN's ass? Because neither the N64 nor the GCN had third party support.

Game consoles need third party support.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[Yoshiyami]

Yoshi's Story pretty much turned Yoshi into an obnoxious squealing baby I've loathed for years.

[MC Luigi]

Originally Posted by CodieKitty

I don't give a damn about "OMG, find all the hidden junk!" on a game with hideous controls, nonexistent level design, and sound that would make a dog wimper. The only stage I haven't played yet is 6-4, and I don't see myself reacting to it with "Wow, this stage was so totally awesome I'll forgive that the other 23 were unstructured messes that could be beaten by a five year old if the controls were competent!"

As I've said before, it is not a complement to say the only way to get anything out of a game is to do a bunch of worthless optional crap.

First off, I fail to see how your "proof" has anything to do with Nintendo not needing third party support. Second, since when has everybody in the world abandoned Sony and Microsoft for the Wii?

I've personally abandoned this entire generation of gaming, but eh.

If Nintendo could "win" with just first party games, why did the PSX kick the N64's ass? Why did the PS2 and Xbox kick the GCN's ass? Because neither the N64 nor the GCN had third party support.

Game consoles need third party support.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

I guess you're right about YS.

I never said everybody abandoned Sony and Microsoft. But you know that people have done it; don't deny it.

Out of the many 'wars' gaming companies had( x-box, ps2, gcn), N64 won the dreamcast vs.ps vs. n64 war. It may have not extended the graphical capabilities as well as the other two, but as far as I know, real gamers don't give a damn about graphics, they care about gameplay. It sold the most, and many of the greatest games( OOT, MM, SM64)CAME OUT ON IT. Yes, Nintendo needs little 3rd party support,(SSBB) but they keep denying the fact that they need some more.

[Codiekitty]

I never said everybody abandoned Sony and Microsoft. But you know that people have done it; don't deny it.

And other people have probably abandoned Nintendo for Sony and Microsoft. It balances out.

Out of the many 'wars' gaming companies had( x-box, ps2, gcn), N64 won the dreamcast vs.ps vs. n64 war.

No it didn't.

It may have not extended the graphical capabilities as well as the other two, but as far as I know, real gamers don't give a damn about graphics, they care about gameplay.

...where did this come from?

It sold the most

No it didn't.

and many of the greatest games( OOT, MM, SM64)CAME OUT ON IT.

Many more "greatest games" came out on the PSX. Keep in mind I'm not going by my own opinions or the review of a person whose opinion I deeply trust, just the common concensus; Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasies 7-9 and Tactics, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Mega Man Legends/X, Lunar, and some others I can't think of right now.

There's also Crash Bandicoot and Spyro, but considering their recent years I don't feel like including them.

The only of those I've played much of are X 4-6 and Symphony of the Night. X4 bores me, I actually think X5 is the best of the three, X6 is the most incompetent game I've played yet. SotN, however, is an incredible game.

Though it doesn't seem all that popular Adventures of Lomax is a damn fine 2D platformer (at least until you hit the second Evil Ed stage, then it starts feeling rushed, probably for time and/or funding reasons). Despite the cutesy outside it's got a menacing heart and smooth controls, unlike a certain 2D N64 platformer (and as a bonus, the music is amazing and the sprites don't look badly Photoshopped in). And frankly, I think I like Alundra a little more than Ocarina of Time.

Yes, Nintendo needs little 3rd party support,(SSBB) but they keep denying the fact that they need some more.

And look where it's gotten them.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[Romplayer]

Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support.

ARE YOU INSANE?!?

Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

Out of the many 'wars' gaming companies had( x-box, ps2, gcn), N64 won the dreamcast vs.ps vs. n64 war.

Well, the more you write, the more I think you have NO IDEA...


The lack of third-party-publishers is the biggest problem of Nintendo! An it will ever be!

[Codiekitty]

Actually, it's the lack of third party developers that's Nintendo's biggest problem. As I've argued with Sean about, plenty of third parties are publishing games for the GCN, but nobody's developing for it.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[MC Luigi]

Originally Posted by CodieKitty

Actually, it's the lack of third party developers that's Nintendo's biggest problem. As I've argued with Sean about, plenty of third parties are publishing games for the GCN, but nobody's developing for it.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

About earlier, I don't care what the hell Wikipedia says, but PS1 didn't kick N64's ass. Spyro sucked and Crash was good, and the graphics on PS1 were very blocky, unlike some games on N64( OOT, DK64)

Other than that, you are totally right about them needing more 3rd party developers. And as a matter of opinion, I liked N64 waaaaaaayy more than PS1. And gamers don't care about graphics. DON'T DENY THE TRUTH.

[Codiekitty]

33 million N64s versus 102.5 million PSX's and 26 million PSOnes sounds like an ass kicking to me.

"Gamers don't care about graphics" is a stupid remark. True, if the game has excellent gameplay but the graphics are lacking (I'll use Alundra 2 as an example, though I haven't played much of it), they probably won't care. But they're not going to go through a beautifully painted world rich with all the colors of the rainbow with nothing clashing and ignore it. On the flip side, no gamer is going to play a game that looks like this:



Okay, this is from Action 52, which is often hailed as the worst game ever, but my point still stands; nobody's going to play a game that offends their senses like that. Graphics like that not are not only agonizing to look at, but are also a sign that the designers didn't give a damn about what they were doing. I once compared a video game to a stew, and said that no matter how tasty that stew is nobody's going to eat it if it looked and smelled like diarrhea.

Also, why the hell do you keep bringing that up? I've never said anything about the N64's graphics vs. PSX's graphics. I've been talking about the success of the system and the selection of games between the two. You keep bringing up "REAL gamers don't care about the graphics!" and how the N64 looked better than the PSX (and besides, if Symphony of the Night, Alundra, and Adventures of Lomax versus Yoshi's Story are any sign of how well the two systems handle 2D games, the PSX kicks the N64's ass in that area).

(And if you're "a real gamer who doesn't care about the graphics", why are you using a couple of late N64 games looking better than some early PSX games as a reason why you prefer the N64?)


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

About earlier, I don't care what the hell Wikipedia says, but PS1 didn't kick N64's ass. Spyro sucked and Crash was good, and the graphics on PS1 were very blocky, unlike some games on N64( OOT, DK64)

Other than that, you are totally right about them needing more 3rd party developers. And as a matter of opinion, I liked N64 waaaaaaayy more than PS1. And gamers don't care about graphics. DON'T DENY THE TRUTH.

You know, the N64 was what made me dislike playstations. The N64 had 64 bit graphics and the ps had 32 bit. I still play my brother's ps2, but it's only for games like GT3 and 4, GTA3, and TS3. I like Nintendo WAAAAY better than sony (as in playstation, not the other products). I have a poster of Starfox Assault on my wall. im trying to find a place for another poster that i have. The fact is, Nintendo is better. I dont care what you peoples say. you know, sony should thank Nintendo for making gaming the way it is today. the only reason it lost is because of lack of 3rd party support. NINTENDO IS BETTER!!!!

[Baleygr]

Skipping every page exept the first...
Duck Hunt for the NES i liked it but then through years of forgetting it ducks became my favorite animal and i wanted to deystory every copy their was...
and every duck hunter on the planet...

[Frumie Bandy]

Originally Posted by Baleygr

Skipping every page exept the first...
Duck Hunt for the NES i liked it but then through years of forgetting it ducks became my favorite animal and i wanted to deystory every copy their was...
and every duck hunter on the planet...

Deystory every copy their was? I don't think"Deystory" is a word nor copies have "was".


ANYWAYS, It seems like as if SL64 and CC are fighting. And so.....
*Bandersnatch, Frumious blows up CC and SL64*

On a related note, it seems as if CC has become a crazy Playstation fan and SL64 has become a crazy Nintendo fan.

[mushroom]

This was the worst topic ever until Baleygr posted. Awesome save.

[ahuambachano]

My list of Dumb Things:

Not releasing NES Earthbound
Not releasing GBA Mother 1+2
Not releasing the Fire Emblem series (not even the sixth one that has Roy!)
Tingle
Sucky Wind Waker style (it makes me like the Powerpuff Girls and Paper Mario better)
Not releasing Nintendo Puzzle Collection
Changing the name of Togechick to Togetic (it hurts my ears!)
Lack of two more buttons for the GBA
Choosing Tingle instead of Zelda as the main character for a spin-off
Allowing 4kids to butcher F-Zero and Kirby
Not releasing F-Zero Climax
Allowing DIC to merge Bowser and Wart for Super Mario Bros. Super Show
Not making a new Mario or Zelda anime... yet
Peach's voice
Not making the Pokémons talk (only a few)
Making dumb commercials compared to the superior Japanese ones
Bowser Jr.
Awful music in the Super Mario Advance games

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by CodieKitty

If Nintendo could "win" with just first party games, why did the PSX kick the N64's ass? Why did the PS2 and Xbox kick the GCN's ass? Because neither the N64 nor the GCN had third party support.

Game consoles need third party support.


Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

They had third party support. Just not enough to win. And PSX didnt kick N64's ass (not totally), but it did win. An ass kicking (in my point of view) is when a game console becomes almost non-existant.

and a thing I think nintendo did was dumb: Actually put Glover on ANY system