Prepare to say goodbye to NC's Wikipedia entry

[Crazyswordsman]

Well, I think Jay is a better spriter than David Anez or even Brian Clevinger. -CSM

[Benito Mussolini]

Alph makes a very good point. NC simply can't be as popular as B&G or 8BT because Jay actually HAS A LIFE, and doesn't sit in front of his computer three times a week making small comics that take little to no effort. Jay actually likes to put effort into his work, and that could take DAYS.

The amount of "effort" into the crudely created panels that constitute the Neglected Characters comic looks entirely minimal to me. There is really little effort into copying and pasting a couple of ripped sprites onto a white background in MSPaint and then using the line tool to create the speech indicator. Really, that takes about five seconds to do tops. Also you totally contradicted yourself by saying Jay has a life and at the same time spends days at a time of hard work to construct these comics.

If he honestly takes more than about thirty minutes to create one of these, it may be safe to assume that he suffers from Cerebral Palsy.

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

It's not as much you as it is BM. And now, by calling NC's characters "one dimensional fluff," that's actually bashing NC. You do nothing more than strengthen my arguments.

Sean actually issued a statement saying that he doesn't want people voicing their opinions on the article unless they have contributed to the Wikipedia. Read the first post in this topic.

Oh, and SMBHQ is the host of NC, and NC is the most popular section of SMBHQ, just to counter your claim that NC isn't popular.

Alph makes a very good point. NC simply can't be as popular as B&G or 8BT because Jay actually HAS A LIFE, and doesn't sit in front of his computer three times a week making small comics that take little to no effort. Jay actually likes to put effort into his work, and that could take DAYS.
-CSM

that is the worst one yet. I;ve done nothing but debunk everything you've said in this topic. I say one negative thing, and it "strengthens your argument."

Yes, and the only people who have contributed to NC are the fanboys that are oh so desperate to keep it on Wiki.

just because NC is the most popular part of a site doesn't make it popular. It's like being the smartest kid with Down's syndrome.

So you're saying that people like David Anez of Bob and George don't "have a life" because they have frequent updates? Here's a SHOCKER for you:

David Anez is MARRIED, and is living on his own with his wife, Liss. Yeah, sounds like someone with no life. Jay Resop goes to college. I do that too, AND work full time, yet that doesn't prevent me from partaking in my hobbies. Face it, even Jay knows that NC isn't important enough to update frequently.

It's funny how you implied that people like Anez have no life, yet he's probably a lot more successful now than you ever will be. He makes a living via his sprite comic. That's how influential it has been. I don't see Jay paying off college with all the dividends that NC has had.

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Well, I think Jay is a better spriter than David Anez or even Brian Clevinger. -CSM

an obvious display of fanboyism. It's clear to even the most common fool that Anez and Clevinger are both better. Anez has made a ton of custom sprites that look great.

[Crazyswordsman]

I didn't contradict myself. If you actually read the posts in this forum, you'd realize that Jay is busy with grad school. He doesn't have time to make anything that isn't of "Bob and George" length (ie four frames long). And maybe Jay wants to do other things with his life then make comics for a living.

And if you actually read the comics, and the shorts in particular, there's a lot of really delicate work that goes on in there. Brian Clevinger basically does the same thing: taking sprites and posting them onto a photoshop background, and in fact, I don't think he does as good of a job due to the fact that he sometimes changes the sprites from their battle sprite to their field sprite.

And now you're telling me what to believe. I've read both 8BT and B&G, and I find NC infinitely funnier. -CSM

[Benito Mussolini]

And if you actually read the comics, and the shorts in particular, there's a lot of really delicate work that goes on in there. Brian Clevinger basically does the same thing: taking sprites and posting them onto a photoshop background, and in fact, I don't think he does as good of a job due to the fact that he sometimes changes the sprites from their battle sprite to their field sprite.

Nor do I care about this David fellow, I don't even know who he is. I'm talking about NC Comics, which should take the average person about fifteen minutes to create. And I honestly doubt they'd appeal to many above the age of fourteen, because the quality of the jokes in them are very low.

The entire "spriting" phenomeon, and sprite comics in general is like a blemish on the earth. Even if Jay Resop did create the very first sprite-comic, what he has actually concieved is thousands of poorly made comics on thousands of geocities sites across the world wide web with moronic ( or lack thereof) humor made by untalented thirteen year olds obsessed with video games. Save comics to people who can actually make them funny, like the publishers of Jerkcity, Qwantz, Space Moose and Bob The Angry Flower.

[Crazyswordsman]

Alright, I honsetly don't give a crap about the page anymore. Now, what I DO care about is people coming to this forum just for the purpose of bashing NC. This is the NC Forum for a reason, guys. Go bash NC all you want on Wikipedia. While I certainly respect your right to an opinion, to come here and attack ours is just plain wrong. Please stop being elitists. -CSM

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

I didn't contradict myself. If you actually read the posts in this forum, you'd realize that Jay is busy with grad school. He doesn't have time to make anything that isn't of "Bob and George" length (ie four frames long). And maybe Jay wants to do other things with his life then make comics for a living.

And if you actually read the comics, and the shorts in particular, there's a lot of really delicate work that goes on in there. Brian Clevinger basically does the same thing: taking sprites and posting them onto a photoshop background, and in fact, I don't think he does as good of a job due to the fact that he sometimes changes the sprites from their battle sprite to their field sprite.

And now you're telling me what to believe. I've read both 8BT and B&G, and I find NC infinitely funnier. -CSM

seriously, could you make this any easier? I am pretty sure making comics isn't Anez's career choice, as I am sure that no one could maintain that level popularity for a lifetime. As much as I am sure he would like, it simply can't be done. He is a full time teacher at a community college. He makes A living off his comic, but it is not the sole source of his income. Yet, he has time to put out a comic every day! Jay is a COLLEGE STUDENT, no mention of a job, so I am assuming he has none. Maybe Jay wants to do other things with his time, like not make comics for a living? Seems like "doesn't want to make comics at all" is the more applicable theory here.

So now you go after Brian Clevinger after I defeat you in the Anez battle. The difference between Clevinger and Resop is that Clevinger puts out a consistently good comic. Clevinger uses wit above the third grade level. Whereas NC is really, really, not funny. You tell me what's funny about ripping off an iPod commerical? Wait, nothing was funny about that one. As for sprite ripping and all that, I look at a NC comic, then a 8BT or B&G comic. It's like picking between an isolated shack, or a luxurious mansion.

You would have to be handicapped to be able to say that last thing with sincerity. But then again, it's clear that you are a fanboy, so a comment like that was expected.

[Crazyswordsman]

I'm not going to respond anymore if you tell me I am wrong for believing that NC is better than the others. -CSM

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Alright, I honsetly don't give a crap about the page anymore. Now, what I DO care about is people coming to this forum just for the purpose of bashing NC. This is the NC Forum for a reason, guys. Go bash NC all you want on Wikipedia. While I certainly respect your right to an opinion, to come here and attack ours is just plain wrong. Please stop being elitists. -CSM

You haven't given anyone a right to their opinion when it's differed from yours. I didn't come here for the purpose of bashing NC, I came here to debate whether it was worthy of being kept on Wikipedia (which its been proven by numerous users that it isn't). I've read the comics. They're bad. Maybe ten years ago, I would have laughed at them. How about YOU stop trying to be an elitist, as you're the one trying to preach your sermon to the choir (except the choir is snoring at this point). And if you "honestly didn't give a crap", as you claim, you wouldn't have contributed to this 2 page argument. Nice try for the subject change there, sparky. You lose.

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

I'm not going to respond anymore if you tell me I am wrong for believing that NC is better than the others. -CSM

I've verbally beaten you so badly in this topic, I'm surprised you're still responding.

I didn't say you were wrong. It's hard to believe that someone can find juvenile humor to be better than, say, witty humor.

[Crazyswordsman]

Well, I didn't say "you have to be handicapped to believe this," when it is clearly all a matter of opinion. You have switched from bashing NC to bashing my opinions, which I have nothing to say to.

And I stopped giving a crap about the time when I realized all the people in favor of deletion hated NC, and about how there are more of them than there are us.

[Tad Venture]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Well, I think Jay is a better spriter than David Anez or even Brian Clevinger. -CSM

And my daddy's bigger than your daddy.

To be honest, I found NC becoming less and less funny as I broadened my horizons. There are way funnier webcomics out there, and NC just totally pales in comparison.

NC has a tiny, tiny fanbase. Who cares if the Wikipedia article gets deleted? It's not the end of the world. All of the people who read NC know about VGF, so if you just take all the stuff from the Wikipedia article and sticky it at the top of the NC forum, it makes absolutely no difference.

[Benito Mussolini]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Alright, I honsetly don't give a crap about the page anymore. Now, what I DO care about is people coming to this forum just for the purpose of bashing NC. This is the NC Forum for a reason, guys. Go bash NC all you want on Wikipedia. While I certainly respect your right to an opinion, to come here and attack ours is just plain wrong. Please stop being elitists. -CSM

This is considered a stock-internet argument for when the going gets tough. Saying that a neglected characters forum (or any forum for that matter) is solely for positive comments made about the forum topic is ludicrous, there is no defined areas for what you can and cannot talk about; by using the old "This is an NC forum, why are you here if you're just going to criticise it??" in my eyes practically is a forfeit. Have a nice day.

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Well, I didn't say "you have to be handicapped to believe this," when it is clearly all a matter of opinion. You have switched from bashing NC to bashing my opinions, which I have nothing to say to.

And I stopped giving a crap about the time when I realized all the people in favor of deletion hated NC, and about how there are more of them than there are us.

yeah, I shouldn't expect someone who enjoys humor oriented at 11 year olds to understand wit.

[Crazyswordsman]

That's still your opinion that NC is for 11 year olds. -CSM

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

That's still your opinion that NC is for 11 year olds. -CSM

as an avid reader of NC, you should be more aware of the FACT that NC's humor is grade school level than I am.

[X-3]

"yes, obviously i knew that someday, NC would be taken off Wikipedia, just so i could use this account."

The NC's wiki page wasn't even MADE two years ago. Ignore this too, you'll just find a way to "by-pass" it.

[Benito Mussolini]

It's also an opinion it's normal for a twenty year old to play with a Fisher Price product marked "ages four and up"

[Mark Prior]

Originally Posted by X-3

TRE, it's obvious you joined just to bash it NC.

X-3, it's obvious you haven't read a single thing I've said all topic. Not my fault that after myself and Benito have single handedly outargued you all, that the topic went astray.