Hmmm.....that's harsh - Page 2

Sir Delicious Rightfoot · 04-18-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimpy

The bad thing about this is that it is seriously damaging SMBHQ's (and subsequently my) relationship with BOTVGH (since it's members of that community posting the review in their LiveJournals -- one went as far to post the link on the wikipage)

Woah there big fella, what happened between you and BOTVGH? Is that site sitll goin? I thought it died

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-18-2006, 06:01 PM

Yeah, I thought BOTVGH died, too.

I seriously think this will HELP NC if anything. That description seems to be, well, for lack of a better term, not serious. Let's all just move on. -CSM

Metal Man · 04-18-2006, 06:04 PM

I also thought BOTVGH died. If it could stop stabbing you in the back and do more updates, I might actually read it again.

**Sean P Kelly** · 04-18-2006, 10:18 PM

a) I over-reacted by saying that it will damage my relationship with BOTVGH, since most of the people who posted this in their livejournals are not on good terms with the community.

b) BOTVGH the site is on indefinite hiatus. An 8th (and final) season may or may not happen, depending on H Cuz's mood.

c) The BOTVGH community has been active through RPG battles in the chatroom. Battles reffed (hosted) by H Cuz usually happen Mondays and Wednesdays and battles reffed by (Neo)Kamek usually happen on Tuesdays. I have long NOT been a regular attendee and usually show up (usually for a Wednesday battle) if I have nothing else to do.

d) FYI: There are some people in the BOTVGH community I'm on good terms with (i.e. H Cuz, UDX) and their are others I want nothing really to do with (i.e. Dan, Klawkat)

Metal Man · 04-18-2006, 10:26 PM

Tell me where this is. Is it on IRC? I want to see it 'cause I happen to run my own RPG, as you know, and would like to see what they do, maybe even participate in it myself. The only link I could find was to an applet which hates my computer.

Dark Chaos · 04-18-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David Thorpe

If you start paying undue attention to Super Mario Brothers, just head that crap off at the pass with some refreshing self-mutilation before it turns into some kind of idiotic internet hobby.

Wow; Internet hobbies sure are serious business.

Bandit · 04-19-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

And for the record, Platform Hero kicked ass.

*falls out of chair, laughing*

**Sean P Kelly** · 04-19-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man

Tell me where this is. Is it on IRC? I want to see it 'cause I happen to run my own RPG, as you know, and would like to see what they do, maybe even participate in it myself. The only link I could find was to an applet which hates my computer.

It is, but because of some issues in the past, the server it's on is only known to an exclusive bunch.

I would give it to you, however it might be a good idea to e-mail H Cuz and ask him for it. Just tell him I sent you.

Codiekitty · 04-19-2006, 08:41 AM

I'm keeping my eye on this topic.

First, I don't think Jay cares that some guy doesn't like his site; I think Jay's said time and time again he's doing NC for his own pleasure, not to please the world. Second, it's Something Awful. Think for a minute about what style of humor these people are into (links are crude and NSFW). Maybe he just doesn't like (or get) NC's style of humor, which differs greatly from the SA penis and cursing-enough-to-make-a-drunken-sailor-blush method.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

**Perrin Aybara** · 04-19-2006, 09:26 AM

Yeah, I saw the Awful Link of the Day thing, and it really didn't seem too bad. Like someone already said, it doesn't look like they really did their homework when they "bashed" NC. I mean, I was almost hoping for something better, funnier, aka a real roast. But their "bash" was pretty tame. No big deal. It's kinda funny, actually.

Personally, I think it's kind of a let down. I was hoping to get a real bashing.-jay

Vapor · 04-19-2006, 12:42 PM

It seems that this person fails to understand that the character's personalities are entirely made up. It seems that the cast of NC, being video game characters, are nothing but vehicles for personality and humor. As Reid said, it does seem the person making this criticism only read the title of the site.

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Great works of fiction often rely on extensive casts of characters.

...And NC has inflated the SMB characters with the personalities Jay has given them. It has the extensive cast of characters; it has its own world seperate from the Mario universe.

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Basically, every character in Super Mario Brothers is totally dispensable (in fact, they often dispense Pez).

But the idiot who runs this site clearly feels differently. His nerve-wracking eyesore of a site contains extensive biographies of all the “neglected” characters in the Super Mario universe, as well as side-splitting webcomics about them.

NC IS USING THE CHARACTERS IN THE MARIO GAMES AS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THE GAMES BY MAKING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORIES.
Each character in NC=/= dispensable.

Metal Man · 04-19-2006, 12:53 PM

Vapor: See the extensive logical proof I made on the situation. I could also probably make one on their main claim and find holes in that too.

Jay: Yeah, like I said. I pointed out fallacies because I wanted them to tell us about stuff that could be proven wrong. Then we'd know how to not be awful! XD

Gimpy: Makes sense. SSQ got its share of random jerks, though I managed to ban them all. I'll email him, indeed.

CK: Exactly why I distrust their so-called informed opinion on NC.

**Dylan** · 04-19-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandit

*falls out of chair, laughing*

It was a clever play on 80s video gaming with some great Flash animation. Let's see you come up with something better.

And at any rate, SA's sense of humor is better than most of yours (collectively). Once again, lighten up, you uppity bitches.

~Dylan

***CaptHayfever*** · 04-19-2006, 02:36 PM

Dyl, you ever feel like there should be a global law requiring people to take some kind of proficiency test before being allowed online? Because many of the comments made by people under the age of college in this thread make me feel that way.

And remmeber, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Dylan** · 04-19-2006, 02:40 PM

Agreed.

Cap, isn't it ironic that not too long ago these same people were praising SA for the Super Mario Playset? It sure strikes me that way.

~Dylan

Metal Man · 04-19-2006, 03:23 PM

I've been to a board which requires a test be taken by all members before joining. Then they have a trial period where they get 30 posts; if they ain't approved after that, they can't post ever again.

Best. Filter. Ever. Of course, that'd be anathema to VGF, so there's not much that can be done about it.

Frumie Bandy · 04-20-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

Agreed.

Cap, isn't it ironic that not too long ago these same people were praising SA for the Super Mario Playset? It sure strikes me that way.

~Dylan

That the only thing I really see there.

Bandit · 04-20-2006, 08:16 PM

I loved Super Mario Playset. And alot of the other stuff on Something Awful. I admit it.

BUT, If you look back to the topic, I bashed Platform Hero THERE too! My opinions HAVE NOT CHANGED. Though, I have less respect for the makers, for bashing NC, when NC's comic are 100 times better then that peice of crap Platform Hero.

I cant come up with anything better then Platform Hero. Why? Because I have a small imagination. However, that does not stop me from thinking it sucked BAD. The characters' personalities were as flat as a board. The comedy SUCKED. I'm not going to laugh at a dinosaur with a bad accent randomly sleeping every 5 minutes. That isnt humor. That's crap. The same kind of humor you'd find in PBS.

Sir Delicious Rightfoot · 04-21-2006, 10:10 PM

Meh, I wish BOTVGH would just come with another season. I mean, if anything, I'm sure there are a lot of members and viewers that would want to continue writing/running the site. I would.

**Sean P Kelly** · 04-22-2006, 10:12 AM

^ The thing is, H Cuz has become very picky about quality and the majority of episodes by new authors are, apparently, VERY bad.

It is that (as well as a major case of writer's block/laziness) that has delayed the start of season 8 for the past 4-5 years.

04-21-2006, 10:10 PM	#39
Sir Delicious Rightfoot I'MA FIRIN MAH ADVENTURE BUS! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 13,178 Thanks: 965 Thanked 663 Times in 386 Posts Points: 50,128.70 Bank: 553,077.89 Total Points: 603,206.58 Donate	Meh, I wish BOTVGH would just come with another season. I mean, if anything, I'm sure there are a lot of members and viewers that would want to continue writing/running the site. I would. __________________ Season 1- Coming to a Youtube near you....whenever

04-18-2006, 06:01 PM	#22
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,042 Thanks: 541 Thanked 378 Times in 260 Posts Points: 132,228.48 Bank: 30,063.17 Total Points: 162,291.65 Donate	Yeah, I thought BOTVGH died, too. I seriously think this will HELP NC if anything. That description seems to be, well, for lack of a better term, not serious. Let's all just move on. -CSM

04-18-2006, 06:04 PM	#23
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,737 Thanks: 74 Thanked 197 Times in 135 Posts Points: 9,445.78 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,445.78 Donate	I also thought BOTVGH died. If it could stop stabbing you in the back and do more updates, I might actually read it again.

04-18-2006, 10:18 PM	#24
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,270 Thanks: 9 Thanked 43 Times in 33 Posts Points: 181,195.98 Bank: 70,395.38 Total Points: 251,591.35 Donate	a) I over-reacted by saying that it will damage my relationship with BOTVGH, since most of the people who posted this in their livejournals are not on good terms with the community. b) BOTVGH the site is on indefinite hiatus. An 8th (and final) season may or may not happen, depending on H Cuz's mood. c) The BOTVGH community has been active through RPG battles in the chatroom. Battles reffed (hosted) by H Cuz usually happen Mondays and Wednesdays and battles reffed by (Neo)Kamek usually happen on Tuesdays. I have long NOT been a regular attendee and usually show up (usually for a Wednesday battle) if I have nothing else to do. d) FYI: There are some people in the BOTVGH community I'm on good terms with (i.e. H Cuz, UDX) and their are others I want nothing really to do with (i.e. Dan, Klawkat)

04-18-2006, 10:26 PM	#25
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,737 Thanks: 74 Thanked 197 Times in 135 Posts Points: 9,445.78 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,445.78 Donate	Tell me where this is. Is it on IRC? I want to see it 'cause I happen to run my own RPG, as you know, and would like to see what they do, maybe even participate in it myself. The only link I could find was to an applet which hates my computer.

04-19-2006, 08:41 AM	#29
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,143 Thanks: 121 Thanked 174 Times in 120 Posts Points: 44,933.72 Bank: 3,021,450.74 Total Points: 3,066,384.46 Donate	I'm keeping my eye on this topic. First, I don't think Jay cares that some guy doesn't like his site; I think Jay's said time and time again he's doing NC for his own pleasure, not to please the world. Second, it's Something Awful. Think for a minute about what style of humor these people are into (links are crude and NSFW). Maybe he just doesn't like (or get) NC's style of humor, which differs greatly from the SA penis and cursing-enough-to-make-a-drunken-sailor-blush method. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

04-19-2006, 09:26 AM	#30
Perrin Aybara LLLUUUCCCCCCAAA!!! Ban HotD Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 11,795 Thanks: 184 Thanked 357 Times in 178 Posts Points: 62,740.84 Bank: 151,320.92 Total Points: 214,061.76 Donate	Yeah, I saw the Awful Link of the Day thing, and it really didn't seem too bad. Like someone already said, it doesn't look like they really did their homework when they "bashed" NC. I mean, I was almost hoping for something better, funnier, aka a real roast. But their "bash" was pretty tame. No big deal. It's kinda funny, actually. Personally, I think it's kind of a let down. I was hoping to get a real bashing.-jay

04-19-2006, 12:53 PM	#32
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,737 Thanks: 74 Thanked 197 Times in 135 Posts Points: 9,445.78 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,445.78 Donate	Vapor: See the extensive logical proof I made on the situation. I could also probably make one on their main claim and find holes in that too. Jay: Yeah, like I said. I pointed out fallacies because I wanted them to tell us about stuff that could be proven wrong. Then we'd know how to not be awful! XD Gimpy: Makes sense. SSQ got its share of random jerks, though I managed to ban them all. I'll email him, indeed. CK: Exactly why I distrust their so-called informed opinion on NC.

04-19-2006, 02:36 PM	#34
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 19,401 Thanks: 170 Thanked 779 Times in 497 Posts Points: 108,409.95 Bank: 1,040.34 Total Points: 109,450.29 Donate	Dyl, you ever feel like there should be a global law requiring people to take some kind of proficiency test before being allowed online? Because many of the comments made by people under the age of college in this thread make me feel that way. And remmeber, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

04-19-2006, 02:40 PM	#35
Dylan Banned Mod Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teenage Wasteland Gender: Posts: 6,216 Thanks: 905 Thanked 922 Times in 424 Posts Points: 30,483.51 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 30,483.52 Donate	Agreed. Cap, isn't it ironic that not too long ago these same people were praising SA for the Super Mario Playset? It sure strikes me that way. ~Dylan

04-19-2006, 03:23 PM	#36
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,737 Thanks: 74 Thanked 197 Times in 135 Posts Points: 9,445.78 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,445.78 Donate	I've been to a board which requires a test be taken by all members before joining. Then they have a trial period where they get 30 posts; if they ain't approved after that, they can't post ever again. Best. Filter. Ever. Of course, that'd be anathema to VGF, so there's not much that can be done about it.

04-20-2006, 08:16 PM	#38
Bandit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Your Pants Gender: Posts: 3,685 Thanks: 184 Thanked 165 Times in 91 Posts Points: 25,417.14 Bank: 1.38 Total Points: 25,418.52 Donate	I loved Super Mario Playset. And alot of the other stuff on Something Awful. I admit it. BUT, If you look back to the topic, I bashed Platform Hero THERE too! My opinions HAVE NOT CHANGED. Though, I have less respect for the makers, for bashing NC, when NC's comic are 100 times better then that peice of crap Platform Hero. I cant come up with anything better then Platform Hero. Why? Because I have a small imagination. However, that does not stop me from thinking it sucked BAD. The characters' personalities were as flat as a board. The comedy SUCKED. I'm not going to laugh at a dinosaur with a bad accent randomly sleeping every 5 minutes. That isnt humor. That's crap. The same kind of humor you'd find in PBS.

04-22-2006, 10:12 AM	#40
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,270 Thanks: 9 Thanked 43 Times in 33 Posts Points: 181,195.98 Bank: 70,395.38 Total Points: 251,591.35 Donate	^ The thing is, H Cuz has become very picky about quality and the majority of episodes by new authors are, apparently, VERY bad. It is that (as well as a major case of writer's block/laziness) that has delayed the start of season 8 for the past 4-5 years.