Is Wart next in line?

JaredThaJa888 · 11-16-2009, 01:23 PM

Nintendo has been slowly waking up to the fact that fans want their forgotten characters back, Luigi was returned to being Playable, and now the Koopalings and Kamek are back in full swing.

And the Wario series brought back Captain Syrup.

So logically it sounds like Wart and his gang (Mouser, Tryclyde, Fryguy and Clawgrip) ought to be next, either him or Tatanga.

Perhaps a NSMB style return to SMB2 style game play, since Mario Vs Donkey Kong brought back the even less well remembered Donkey Kong 94 game play.

Super Princess Peach and Super Paper Mario have further explored what can be done with a playable Toadstool, and Toad playability was brought back by NSMBWii.

P.S. If Tatanga returns I'd actually like to see him as an RPG antagonist.

Dizzy · 11-16-2009, 02:44 PM

If Wart comes back, I want him to be sinister, not goofy, as many people portray him as.

JaredThaJa888 · 11-16-2009, 03:00 PM

Mario Games are Goofy in nature, even the most Sinister Mario Villain, Smithy, was a little Goofy.

Jere · 11-16-2009, 03:11 PM

But, but he is goofy, who else would trap dreampeople and have a machine that throws vegetables in the way to stop you?

Metal Mario · 11-17-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JaredThaJa888

If Tatanga returns I'd actually like to see him as an RPG antagonist.

He'd make a great villain for the next big Mario RPG, since those villains tend to be one-shots with supernatural/otherworldly origins.

JaredThaJa888 · 11-17-2009, 01:16 PM

Exactly

Gabriel · 11-17-2009, 02:32 PM

I like to think Dimentio was the darkest Mario villain. And seeing Tatanga as an RPG Villain would be cool.

Also Wart IS sinister! By controlling the dream realm he can sway the mind of virtually anyone who sleeps. Within days he would control the entire population of the planet! Wart would rule both the Concrete and Abstract worlds!

Dizzy · 11-17-2009, 02:47 PM

By goofy, I meant the way Bowser is in most of the RPGs. I want Wart to really be serious about his plans.

Metal Mario · 11-17-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Rodriguez

Also Wart IS sinister! By controlling the dream realm he can sway the mind of virtually anyone who sleeps. Within days he would control the entire population of the planet! Wart would rule both the Concrete and Abstract worlds!

That would make a great plot for a Mario RPG.

PK FIRE! · 11-17-2009, 03:08 PM

Yes, it would, another intresting RPG plot would be an attempted Coup of Bowser's Kingdom by one or a few of the Koopa Kids.

- You stupid dog.

JaredThaJa888 · 11-17-2009, 03:30 PM

I've felt a story about the Koopalings revolting out of their jealousy towards Bowser Jr being the Favorite would be cool.

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Also Wart IS sinister! By controlling the dream realm he can sway the mind of virtually anyone who sleeps. Within days he would control the entire population of the planet! Wart would rule both the Concrete and Abstract worlds!

You just gave me a cool Deathmatch Idea, Wart Vs Freddy Kruger.

Dizzy · 11-17-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Mario

He'd make a great villain for the next big Mario RPG, since those villains tend to be one-shots with supernatural/otherworldly origins.

One-shot characters rule.

**Valigarmander** · 11-17-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Rodriguez

I like to think Dimentio was the darkest Mario villain. And seeing Tatanga as an RPG Villain would be cool.

Dimentio is the only villain to date to ever have technically killed Mario.

I think it'd be cool if they brought back Wart, whether it were a "sequel" to Super Mario Bros. 2 (can anyone say New Super Mario Bros. 2?), or a different appearance. Heck, they have Funky Kong as a playable character in Mario Kart Wii. Why couldn't Wart appear in the next one?

Metal Mario · 11-17-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Valigarmander

I think it'd be cool if they brought back Wart, whether it were a "sequel" to Super Mario Bros. 2 (can anyone say New Super Mario Bros. 2?)

YES.

PK FIRE! · 11-17-2009, 05:19 PM

Hmm, could work but what could they do that hasn't already been done for the first two NSMB games?

- You stupid dog.

Metal Mario · 11-17-2009, 05:31 PM

It would be as different from the other New SMB games as SMB 2 is from the original SMB. We're not talking about a sequel to New Super Mario Bros. Wii, y'see. We're talking about giving SMB 2 the same treatment they gave the original SMB when they made New SMB. It would have the same basics as SMB 2 while introducing new concepts, characters, and items. You'd still throw veggies, you'd still battle Wart, and you'd still be able to play as Mario, Luigi, Toad, or the Princess, but there would also be new enemies to mix with the old, brand new levels and music, etc.

That'd be awesome.

PK FIRE! · 11-17-2009, 05:38 PM

I know that's what you ment but SMB2 US works quite diffrentlly then SMB/3 so aside from some diffrent types of baddies and Veggies, some new grunts, music what else could they do? Addomg something like the fire flower would be a huge game breaker here. I love SMB2 US but I'm not sure if giving it a NSMB make over would work as well for it.

- You stupid dog.

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-17-2009, 07:10 PM

The setup:
After eating too many leftover slices of Peach's cake at 3 AM, Mario's sleep is troubled by yet another dream of Subcon.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Metal Mario · 11-17-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PK FIRE!

I know that's what you ment but SMB2 US works quite diffrentlly then SMB/3 so aside from some diffrent types of baddies and Veggies, some new grunts, music what else could they do? Addomg something like the fire flower would be a huge game breaker here. I love SMB2 US but I'm not sure if giving it a NSMB make over would work as well for it.

- You stupid dog.

Items and enemies from the more traditional SMB games wouldn't appear in a New SMB 2, naturally (although there could be exceptions under the right circumstances). I'm sure Nintendo would find themselves capable of adding sufficient new material to the SMB 2 formula.

***Marilink*** · 11-17-2009, 07:40 PM

Wart pretty much owns IMO. I'd love to see him back.

11-16-2009, 01:23 PM	#1
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Is Wart next in line? Nintendo has been slowly waking up to the fact that fans want their forgotten characters back, Luigi was returned to being Playable, and now the Koopalings and Kamek are back in full swing. And the Wario series brought back Captain Syrup. So logically it sounds like Wart and his gang (Mouser, Tryclyde, Fryguy and Clawgrip) ought to be next, either him or Tatanga. Perhaps a NSMB style return to SMB2 style game play, since Mario Vs Donkey Kong brought back the even less well remembered Donkey Kong 94 game play. Super Princess Peach and Super Paper Mario have further explored what can be done with a playable Toadstool, and Toad playability was brought back by NSMBWii. P.S. If Tatanga returns I'd actually like to see him as an RPG antagonist. Last edited by JaredThaJa888; 11-16-2009 at 02:21 PM.

11-16-2009, 02:44 PM	#2
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	If Wart comes back, I want him to be sinister, not goofy, as many people portray him as.

11-16-2009, 03:00 PM	#3
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Mario Games are Goofy in nature, even the most Sinister Mario Villain, Smithy, was a little Goofy.

11-16-2009, 03:11 PM	#4
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	But, but he is goofy, who else would trap dreampeople and have a machine that throws vegetables in the way to stop you?

11-17-2009, 01:16 PM	#6
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Exactly

11-17-2009, 02:32 PM	#7
Gabriel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pesterchum~ Gender: Posts: 2,752 Thanks: 206 Thanked 139 Times in 115 Posts	I like to think Dimentio was the darkest Mario villain. And seeing Tatanga as an RPG Villain would be cool. Also Wart IS sinister! By controlling the dream realm he can sway the mind of virtually anyone who sleeps. Within days he would control the entire population of the planet! Wart would rule both the Concrete and Abstract worlds!

11-17-2009, 02:47 PM	#8
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	By goofy, I meant the way Bowser is in most of the RPGs. I want Wart to really be serious about his plans.

11-17-2009, 03:08 PM	#10
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	Yes, it would, another intresting RPG plot would be an attempted Coup of Bowser's Kingdom by one or a few of the Koopa Kids. - You stupid dog.

11-17-2009, 05:19 PM	#15
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	Hmm, could work but what could they do that hasn't already been done for the first two NSMB games? - You stupid dog.

11-17-2009, 05:31 PM	#16
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	It would be as different from the other New SMB games as SMB 2 is from the original SMB. We're not talking about a sequel to New Super Mario Bros. Wii, y'see. We're talking about giving SMB 2 the same treatment they gave the original SMB when they made New SMB. It would have the same basics as SMB 2 while introducing new concepts, characters, and items. You'd still throw veggies, you'd still battle Wart, and you'd still be able to play as Mario, Luigi, Toad, or the Princess, but there would also be new enemies to mix with the old, brand new levels and music, etc. That'd be awesome.

11-17-2009, 05:38 PM	#17
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	I know that's what you ment but SMB2 US works quite diffrentlly then SMB/3 so aside from some diffrent types of baddies and Veggies, some new grunts, music what else could they do? Addomg something like the fire flower would be a huge game breaker here. I love SMB2 US but I'm not sure if giving it a NSMB make over would work as well for it. - You stupid dog.

11-17-2009, 07:10 PM	#18
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	The setup: After eating too many leftover slices of Peach's cake at 3 AM, Mario's sleep is troubled by yet another dream of Subcon. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

11-17-2009, 07:40 PM	#20
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,822 Times in 1,007 Posts	Wart pretty much owns IMO. I'd love to see him back.